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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2016, 03:28:18 pm »
All I know is that nearly the entire RNC better go with him. They enabled him and should not be allowed to pick a candidate for us.

The RNC enabled him?

In what alternative universe did THAT happen?

We first had the narrative of Trump and Cruz being the "outsiders" out to bring down the dreaded GOPe (A.K.A. the RNC) and their anointed candidate Jeb.

Then Trump's Third Division (average GOP support @36%) boasted about their leader's defeat of the ESTABLISHMENT (A.K.A. the RNC) and the dawning of the age of  Trump (A.K.A. The Rise of The Morton Downey Jr. Generation) and roared when the Trump Troupe lorded over a GOP Convention lacking any manner of significant GOPe presence, booing at anyone who dared to suggest that conscience and adherence to our governing documents should be part of the process of electing the person who will stand in the shows of George Washington.

The RNC is the LEAST responsible entity for Trump.

The RNC WISHES that they had damned near anyone but Trump as a candidate.
 
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2016, 03:30:34 pm »
I respectfully disagree. Pence did not participate during the primary process. If Trump drops out, Cruz is the man. RNC members have put themselves in an untenable position, and it started over a year ago. Their support of open primaries and not taking control of debates led to the position they're in now.

I don't think Cruz would take the position at this point.  The Trump supporters will Trumpertantrum themselves out of the election, and without the full support of everyone against Hillary, Cruz loses.  I doubt he wants to wreck his political future that way.  Pence at lease stands a chance of uniting the Trump supporters and the conservatives.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2016, 03:32:07 pm »
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Kinda satisfying watching Trumper's heads explode.  Too bad the consequences of their bad judgement are so dire for the nation.  Many of us had Trump pegged MONTHS ago.  Y'all should have listened!  Same goes for you, JimRob.

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2016, 03:32:41 pm »
I tore up my RNC survey/donation request and threw it away.  I wonder how the donations are going for the party?

I did too....first time in years I haven't donated to the RNC during elections
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2016, 03:34:46 pm »
My prediction is if they do end up replacing Trump, however that might play out, the replacement will be Bush.

Ya heard it here first.  :tongue2:

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2016, 03:35:12 pm »
I could live with Pence at the top of the ticket. I wouldn't even need to hold my nose.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2016, 03:35:31 pm »
I don't think Cruz would take the position at this point.  The Trump supporters will Trumpertantrum themselves out of the election, and without the full support of everyone against Hillary, Cruz loses.  I doubt he wants to wreck his political future that way.  Pence at lease stands a chance of uniting the Trump supporters and the conservatives.

I agree. Whatever republican runs at this point is only running to lose. Plus I don't think Ted Cruz would accept being appointed without the people having some sort of say in it.

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2016, 03:37:01 pm »
My prediction is if they do end up replacing Trump, however that might play out, the replacement will be Bush.

Ya heard it here first.  :tongue2:

I think so too, or perhaps Kasich or Romney.


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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2016, 03:40:06 pm »
The RNC enabled him?

In what alternative universe did THAT happen?

We first had the narrative of Trump and Cruz being the "outsiders" out to bring down the dreaded GOPe (A.K.A. the RNC) and their anointed candidate Jeb.

Then Trump's Third Division (average GOP support @36%) boasted about their leader's defeat of the ESTABLISHMENT (A.K.A. the RNC) and the dawning of the age of  Trump (A.K.A. The Rise of The Morton Downey Jr. Generation) and roared when the Trump Troupe lorded over a GOP Convention lacking any manner of significant GOPe presence, booing at anyone who dared to suggest that conscience and adherence to our governing documents should be part of the process of electing the person who will stand in the shows of George Washington.

The RNC is the LEAST responsible entity for Trump.

The RNC WISHES that they had damned near anyone but Trump as a candidate.

The GOP-e/RNC teamed up with Trump at the convention against conservatives, and we won't forget.

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2016, 03:41:53 pm »
I think so too, or perhaps Kasich or Romney.

Back in January he said more than once with absolute certainty that he would be the nominee.  I found it odd at the time but his absolute certainty stuck with me.

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2016, 03:45:55 pm »
I respectfully disagree. Pence did not participate during the primary process. If Trump drops out, Cruz is the man. RNC members have put themselves in an untenable position, and it started over a year ago. Their support of open primaries and not taking control of debates led to the position they're in now.

That's fantasy.  If the nominee drops out, after the primaries and convention...the Party officers will select who they want.

There is no party by-law or codified Election Law covering this.  Government cannot tell a private group, which is what a political party IS...who they can promote for an election.

We have no more say over this than we do over the Libertarian or Communist parties' nominations.  The top Republican party officers will control it.

AND THEY DESPISE CRUZ.  They MIGHT go with Pence.  More likely they'll dig up Shrub and put him on there...or someone REALLY kewel, like Goober Graham.

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2016, 03:49:18 pm »
I respectfully disagree. Pence did not participate during the primary process. If Trump drops out, Cruz is the man. RNC members have put themselves in an untenable position, and it started over a year ago. Their support of open primaries and not taking control of debates led to the position they're in now.
I agree.  I'm as unlikely to vote for pence as I am to to vote for the orange a$$hoIe.  Which is to say, not at all, as in never. 

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2016, 03:50:45 pm »
That's fantasy.  If the nominee drops out, after the primaries and convention...the Party officers will select who they want.

There is no party by-law or codified Election Law covering this.  Government cannot tell a private group, which is what a political party IS...who they can promote for an election.

We have no more say over this than we do over the Libertarian or Communist parties' nominations.  The top Republican party officers will control it.

AND THEY DESPISE CRUZ.  They MIGHT go with Pence.  More likely they'll dig up Shrub and put him on there...or someone REALLY kewel, like Goober Graham.

You are correct - the GOP stooges would rather stab their own eye out than allow Cruz the nomination. They'd grab Hillary if the democrats hadn't grabbed her first.

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2016, 03:54:19 pm »

AND THEY DESPISE CRUZ.  They MIGHT go with Pence.  More likely they'll dig up Shrub and put him on there...or someone REALLY kewel, like Goober Graham.

My money would be on Kasich/Pence, or vice versa.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2016, 04:01:04 pm »
... ABC News' Jonathan Karl reported Wednesday... "This is absolutely unprecedented," Karl said. "I am told that RNC chairman Reince Priebus is furious — he has had multiple discussions with Trump telling him he needs to drastically change course."
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2016, 04:04:27 pm »
I tore up my RNC survey/donation request and threw it away.  I wonder how the donations are going for the party?

I am sending every GOP mailer back with a note that says...

"Take me off your mailing list. Reason: Trump. Seriously? Ted Cruz is the only man left in DC with integrity, courage, and principles."
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2016, 04:46:52 pm »
The RNC enabled him?

In what alternative universe did THAT happen?

We first had the narrative of Trump and Cruz being the "outsiders" out to bring down the dreaded GOPe (A.K.A. the RNC) and their anointed candidate Jeb.

Then Trump's Third Division (average GOP support @36%) boasted about their leader's defeat of the ESTABLISHMENT (A.K.A. the RNC) and the dawning of the age of  Trump (A.K.A. The Rise of The Morton Downey Jr. Generation) and roared when the Trump Troupe lorded over a GOP Convention lacking any manner of significant GOPe presence, booing at anyone who dared to suggest that conscience and adherence to our governing documents should be part of the process of electing the person who will stand in the shows of George Washington.

The RNC is the LEAST responsible entity for Trump.

The RNC WISHES that they had damned near anyone but Trump as a candidate.

I have to disagree with that assessment.

The RNC Establishment threw in full bore with Trump BEFORE the Convention, and set up the convention to ensure it was a WWE Pay-Per-Viewish 'Trump Convention' circus event.  Then orchestrated the rules to strip power away from the grassroots to empower Priebus/McConnell and the Ruling Class Oligarchy with near-total control of the party and their nomination process going forward.

They threw in with Trump to get rid of the Christian/Social Conservatives they saw as a drag on their party and whom McConnell himself promised he would 'punch in the nose'.

Sorry, the RNC knew Trump was a wrecking ball - and they are perfectly fine with Hillary as President.   They just did not figure Trump would destroy the GOP itself in the process.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2016, 04:59:23 pm »
I have to disagree with that assessment.

The RNC Establishment threw in full bore with Trump BEFORE the Convention, and set up the convention to ensure it was a WWE Pay-Per-Viewish 'Trump Convention' circus event.  Then orchestrated the rules to strip power away from the grassroots to empower Priebus/McConnell and the Ruling Class Oligarchy with near-total control of the party and their nomination process going forward.

They threw in with Trump to get rid of the Christian/Social Conservatives they saw as a drag on their party and whom McConnell himself promised he would 'punch in the nose'.

Sorry, the RNC knew Trump was a wrecking ball - and they are perfectly fine with Hillary as President.   They just did not figure Trump would destroy the GOP itself in the process.

I wish to offer a name for Mr. Trump to consider:  Maximilian Robespierre. It didn't turn out very well for this "agent of change."
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2016, 05:01:50 pm »
I wish to offer a name for Mr. Trump to consider:  Maximilian Robespierre. It didn't turn out very well for this "agent of change."

That's for sure!  :silly:

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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2016, 05:16:11 pm »
I am sending every GOP mailer back with a note that says...

"Take me off your mailing list. Reason: Trump. Seriously? Ted Cruz is the only man left in DC with integrity, courage, and principles."

I started to do that, but figured that without a donation, any comments that are returned are circular filed without ever being read.  I decided not to waste my time.  If they really wanted to hear from us, they need only open their ears.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2016, 05:19:39 pm »
That's for sure!  :silly:

I found a link for the History Channel documentary on the French Revolution:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizl8oAqG50

With no commercials, it's only an hour and a half. There are several parallels from the French Revolution to this political season, and "climate change" is one of them. Unrest was prompted by several years of unseasonably cold weather that wreaked havoc on agriculture.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2016, 05:20:36 pm »
I started to do that, but figured that without a donation, any comments that are returned are circular filed without ever being read.  I decided not to waste my time.  If they really wanted to hear from us, they need only open their ears.

You said it yourself: they really don't want to hear from us.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2016, 05:27:18 pm »
Who woulda ever thunk it? Trump uncontrollable? The GOP will never at this point regain its respectability. It is a decaying sister party of the Democrats. No one the RNC appoints will be able to consolidate this broken piece of crap party. They are no longer a party of conservatives united around the constitution.
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2016, 05:28:02 pm »
The RNC enabled him?

In what alternative universe did THAT happen?

We first had the narrative of Trump and Cruz being the "outsiders" out to bring down the dreaded GOPe (A.K.A. the RNC) and their anointed candidate Jeb.

Then Trump's Third Division (average GOP support @36%) boasted about their leader's defeat of the ESTABLISHMENT (A.K.A. the RNC) and the dawning of the age of  Trump (A.K.A. The Rise of The Morton Downey Jr. Generation) and roared when the Trump Troupe lorded over a GOP Convention lacking any manner of significant GOPe presence, booing at anyone who dared to suggest that conscience and adherence to our governing documents should be part of the process of electing the person who will stand in the shows of George Washington.

The RNC is the LEAST responsible entity for Trump.

The RNC WISHES that they had damned near anyone but Trump as a candidate.

Agree.   The RNC is trying desperately to ride the tornado, but Trump was the last one it wanted to see as the face of the Party of Lincoln. 

Unlike some here,  I do not intend to renounce my membership in the GOP.   I will work hard to excise the Trumpism cancer,  and then resume my usual advocacy for big-tent, Jack Kemp-style conservatism.   
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Re: ABC: RNC Considering Options If Trump Drops Out
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2016, 05:29:28 pm »
I wish to offer a name for Mr. Trump to consider:  Maximilian Robespierre. It didn't turn out very well for this "agent of change."