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Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« on: August 03, 2016, 12:31:55 am »
  The King of Douche doubles down.

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Republican nominee Donald Trump on Tuesday said he doesn't regret the comments he
made toward the family of Capt. Humayun Khan, a Muslim American killed in Iraq.

"I don't regret anything," Trump said in an interview with ABC7.

"I said nice things about the son and I feel that very strongly but of course I was hit very hard from the stage and you know it's just one of those things but no I don't regret anything."

Khizr Khan, the father of Humayun Khan, spoke critically of Trump last week at the Democratic National Convention. In his speech, the elder Khan asked if Trump had read the Constitution and said the GOP nominee had sacrificed nothing.

In response, Trump criticized Khan and questioned why his wife did not speak at the convention, too, suggesting it had something to do with her religion.

He also noted the sacrifices he's made in his business career and said Khizr Khan had no right to question his views on the Constitution.

Trump's response has drawn days of criticism from both Republicans and Democrats.

On Tuesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), a strong Trump supporter, said it was "inappropriate" to criticize the family of Capt. Humayun Khan and other Gold Star families.

President Obama also said Tuesday that Trump is "unfit" to serve as president and called on Republican leaders to abandon their support for their nominee.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 12:33:40 am »
He's doubling down on stupid. Cannot wait to see what tomorrow brings. Sigh.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 12:38:10 am »
  The King of Douche doubles down.

 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-khan-remarks-i-dont-regret-anything/ar-BBvarGm?li=BBnb7Kz
Republican nominee Donald Trump on Tuesday said he doesn't regret the comments he
made toward the family of Capt. Humayun Khan, a Muslim American killed in Iraq.

"I don't regret anything," Trump said in an interview with ABC7.

"I said nice things about the son and I feel that very strongly but of course I was hit very hard from the stage and you know it's just one of those things but no I don't regret anything."

Khizr Khan, the father of Humayun Khan, spoke critically of Trump last week at the Democratic National Convention. In his speech, the elder Khan asked if Trump had read the Constitution and said the GOP nominee had sacrificed nothing.

In response, Trump criticized Khan and questioned why his wife did not speak at the convention, too, suggesting it had something to do with her religion.

He also noted the sacrifices he's made in his business career and said Khizr Khan had no right to question his views on the Constitution.

Trump's response has drawn days of criticism from both Republicans and Democrats.

On Tuesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), a strong Trump supporter, said it was "inappropriate" to criticize the family of Capt. Humayun Khan and other Gold Star families.

President Obama also said Tuesday that Trump is "unfit" to serve as president and called on Republican leaders to abandon their support for their nominee.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 12:42:34 am »
The problem isn't with this regret. It is that there are never any regrets.


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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 12:47:59 am »


Because Trump never does anything wrong....ergo never the need for him to ask for God's forgiveness (his own words).

Got it.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 01:00:23 am »
OK, bear with me here, because I am going to float a possible justification for all of this.  After all, this is no different from what Trump did in the primaries, and he handily beat the most qualified field of GOP candidates in my lifetime.  So I ask myself: what does he gain?

I think he gains a crapload of publicity, and in his view all publicity is good.  He does not differentiate between good and bad publicity.  He renders Hillary's multi-million ad blitz meaningless because he sucks all the oxygen out of the campaign by being the focus.  In his view, so long as Trump is the focus, Hillary will not have the capability to communicate her own message.  He succeeded with this strategy against Jeb Bush, so in his mind it is tried and true.  No "experts" who have lost two presidential campaigns with "conventional wisdom" are going to convince him otherwise.

Now, I and many other intelligent people happen to think the guy looks like a foolish baboon.  But we have been wrong about him from day one, and he is doing nothing different.  So go figure.

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 01:07:00 am »
He's doubling down on stupid. Cannot wait to see what tomorrow brings. Sigh.

He'll unleash his lawyers to find the guy's birth certificate, proving he was born outside the US.

Oh wait...

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 01:07:54 am »
OK, bear with me here, because I am going to float a possible justification for all of this.  After all, this is no different from what Trump did in the primaries, and he handily beat the most qualified field of GOP candidates in my lifetime.  So I ask myself: what does he gain?

I think he gains a crapload of publicity, and in his view all publicity is good.  He does not differentiate between good and bad publicity.  He renders Hillary's multi-million ad blitz meaningless because he sucks all the oxygen out of the campaign by being the focus.  In his view, so long as Trump is the focus, Hillary will not have the capability to communicate her own message.  He succeeded with this strategy against Jeb Bush, so in his mind it is tried and true.  No "experts" who have lost two presidential campaigns with "conventional wisdom" are going to convince him otherwise.

Now, I and many other intelligent people happen to think the guy looks like a foolish baboon.  But we have been wrong about him from day one, and he is doing nothing different.  So go figure.

But, in comparison to Hillary, she looks like the grown-up.  Picking a fight with a Gold Star couple is dumb.  Not endorsing Ryan or McCain further divides the party.  Talking about a "rigged election" feeds resentment and the idea that America is going to hell.

I just don't see how this benefits him.  In fact, it's not benefiting him.  He's sinking in the polls.  Hillary is just sitting back and watching him melt down.
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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 01:11:53 am »
But, in comparison to Hillary, she looks like the grown-up.  Picking a fight with a Gold Star couple is dumb.  Not endorsing Ryan or McCain further divides the party.  Talking about a "rigged election" feeds resentment and the idea that America is going to hell.

I just don't see how this benefits him.  In fact, it's not benefiting him.  He's sinking in the polls.  Hillary is just sitting back and watching him melt down.

Well, we will have to see.  He has a knack for creating media firestorms.  It worked for him in the primaries, and I don't think he has any desire to change what has worked for him.  I don't have a dog in this fight, just commenting on what I see.  As you know, I am a marketing professor by trade, and everything he does is the exact opposite of what I would advise someone in his position to do.  Maybe that is why I find this campaign so fascinating, and confounding.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 01:15:35 am »
But, in comparison to Hillary, she looks like the grown-up.  Picking a fight with a Gold Star couple is dumb.  Not endorsing Ryan or McCain further divides the party.  Talking about a "rigged election" feeds resentment and the idea that America is going to hell.

I just don't see how this benefits him.  In fact, it's not benefiting him.  He's sinking in the polls.  Hillary is just sitting back and watching him melt down.

The key difference is that, in the primaries, Trump was competing in an environment where a large plurality of the voters favored him and his message.  Now he's competing in a much larger sea.  A sea much less favorable.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 01:20:23 am »
Well, we will have to see.  He has a knack for creating media firestorms.  It worked for him in the primaries, and I don't think he has any desire to change what has worked for him.  I don't have a dog in this fight, just commenting on what I see.


That path will be rife with peril. The Clinton camp will throw one embodied land mine after another in his way. Trump, the always-on-offense-reactionary, will bite.  The media will trip over themselves with glee in pointing out the new demographic he insulted. It just seems to me he will be unable to navigate the dangers.

But, he has made it this far as you point out.
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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 01:21:19 am »
The key difference is that, in the primaries, Trump was competing in an environment where a large plurality of the voters favored him and his message.  Now he's competing in a much larger sea.  A sea much less favorable.

Probably.  I definitely agree.  But it is his campaign, and I don't think he sees it that way.  And so far, everything I have said turned out to wrong, and he won.  So maybe I should at least question my assumptions a bit.

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That path will be rife with peril. The Clinton camp will throw one embodied land mine after another in his way. Trump, the always-on-offense-reactionary, will bite.  The media will trip over themselves with glee in pointing out the new demographic he insulted. It just seems to me he will be unable to navigate the dangers.

But, he has made it this far as you point out.

Yep.  Personally, I think the guy is a sad case of arrested development, or worse, a paranoid narcissist.  But he won against a field that included 5 successful governors. So what do I know?

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That path will be rife with peril. The Clinton camp will throw one embodied land mine after another in his way. Trump, the always-on-offense-reactionary, will bite.  The media will trip over themselves with glee in pointing out the new demographic he insulted. It just seems to me he will be unable to navigate the dangers.

But, he has made it this far as you point out.

The man is throwing hand grenades in a mine field.  The odds are not in his favor for survival.   

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 02:22:52 am »
debra wrote above:
"Cannot wait to see what tomorrow brings..."

Seems like Mr. Khan has taken his law firm's website down, and is doing the best he can to slip back into the shadows from which he sprung...   ;)

Addendum:
So... who "won"...?
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...  But he won against a field that included 5 successful governors.

Yes.  Stunning.
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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 02:40:30 am »
He won with reality TV show type showmanship, lies, insults and slander.  I don't count that as a legitimate win.  He got the prize, but the win is illegitimate, imo.  It's like he plays with a deflated brain.

There is nothing in the constitution that says votes obtained by nefarious means count less than votes obtained by dignified means.  He won.  And he did it in the way you indicate.  He is not now going to abandon the girl who brung him.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 11:07:33 am »
There is nothing in the constitution that says votes obtained by nefarious means count less than votes obtained by dignified means.  He won.  And he did it in the way you indicate.  He is not now going to abandon the girl who brung him.

One could "hypothetically" suppose:

His first task was to destroy the Republican opposition in the primaries using whatever means necessary.

Mission accomplished.

His current task is to guarantee Shrillary the presidency while doing as much damage he can to the congressional races of republicans.

Looks like he's right on task with that one too...

Of course, all of this is just "hypothetical"  :whistle:

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 11:15:54 am »
Orange Julius is a narcissistic sociopath,which means he is convinced HE is perfect in every respect,and never makes mistakes.

If you never make a mistake,you never have anything to apologize for.

I have no idea why anyone is surprised by this. It ain't like it has been kept secret.
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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 11:19:23 am »
massadvj I always learn from your insights and this forum is exponentially better with your input. My take, as mentioned by another poster, is there is a huge difference between state primaries versus a national election. In the primaries he had his fanatical base, added a few percentage points when Sessions and a few others gave him cover as being acceptable. He always was the front runner with that 30% base and never faced the prospect of winning over normal voters who are not egged on by shouts of build a wall etc. On the national scale he has trailed Clinton most of the year except for a few blips. He isnalso seeing questions of his sanity, of his fitness to lead, of his lack of integrity and so on by all the major networks nightly. I don't see him recovering and that is probably the best thing for this country, although you probably do not agree with me on that point. I do think a conservative movement will rise from the ashes of the trump firestorm, whether inside the GOP or outside.

Ditto cuky.  I always find your contributions to this forum to be cogent and insightful.  I don't really know whether he will recover or not.  All I am saying is that I have been wrong about him from day one, he's not my dog in the race anyway (I have none, although I am considering Johnson), so we'll just have to see.  Like you, I do hope a viable conservative/constitutional/classical liberal movement springs forth as a result of all this.  Perhaps if Johnson can get into the debates, those seeds can be sewn.

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Re: Trump on Khan remarks: 'I don't regret anything'.
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2016, 11:19:51 am »
Yep.  Personally, I think the guy is a sad case of arrested development, or worse, a paranoid narcissist.  But he won against a field that included 5 successful governors. So what do I know?

@massadvj

It's not that Orange Julius was that good so much as it was the others were that bad,or just laughed him off because they didn't think people would be stupid enough to vote for a loon. You have to wonder if those people noticed who had been running for office and winning the last couple of decades.

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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2016, 11:33:20 am »
@massadvj
NEVER underestimate the stupidity of murikan voters.

I don't.  And that is why I don't rule Trump out at this point.