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There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« on: August 02, 2016, 12:57:53 am »


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/there-is-something-very-wrong-with-donald-trump/2016/08/01/73809c72-57fe-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html


There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
 


By Robert Kagan August 1 at 3:51 PM
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One wonders if Republican leaders have begun to realize that they may have hitched their fate and the fate of their party to a man with a disordered personality. We can leave it to the professionals to determine exactly what to call it. Suffice to say that Donald Trump’s response to the assorted speakers at the Democratic National Convention has not been rational.

Why denigrate the parents of a soldier who died serving his country in Iraq? And why keep it going for four days? Why assail the record of a decorated general who commanded U.S. forces in Afghanistan? Why make fun of the stature of a popular former mayor of New York? Surely Trump must know that at any convention, including his own, people get up and criticize the opposition party’s nominee. They get their shots in, just as your party got its shots in. And then you move on to the next phase of the campaign. You don’t take a crack at every single person who criticized you. And you especially don’t pick fights that you can’t possibly win, such as against a grieving Gold Star mother or a general. It’s simply not in your interest to do so.

The fact that Trump could not help himself, that he clearly did, as he said, want to “hit” everyone who spoke against him at the Democratic convention, suggests that there really is something wrong with the man. It is not just that he is incapable of empathy. It is not just that he feels he must respond to every criticism he receives by attacking and denigrating the critic, no matter how small or inconsequential. If you are a Republican, the real problem, and the thing that ought to keep you up nights as we head into the final 100 days of this campaign, is that the man cannot control himself. He cannot hold back even when it is manifestly in his interest to do so. What’s more, his psychological pathologies are ultimately self-destructive. (Disclosure: I was a guest speaker at a fundraiser for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton last month; I have no role with her campaign.)
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 01:02:22 am »
Trump WILL NOT suffer a humiliating defeat.  If he's down by 10 points in the middle of September, look for the excuses to start flying as he looks for a way to bow out.
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2016, 01:11:32 am »
Trump WILL NOT suffer a humiliating defeat.  If he's down by 10 points in the middle of September, look for the excuses to start flying as he looks for a way to bow out.

That's an interesting idea but it's predicated on the notion that Trump can grasp the reality of an impending huge loss.

Is he that sane?
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 01:11:47 am »
Trump WILL NOT suffer a humiliating defeat.  If he's down by 10 points in the middle of September, look for the excuses to start flying as he looks for a way to bow out.

He is already starting with the excuses, claiming today that the election will be rigged. Watching both ABC and NBC news coverage of the latest firestorm regarding the Gold Star family and the Putin relationship lies, Trump is in big big trouble.
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 01:21:00 am »
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 01:37:50 am »


Oh, man; I'll never get to sleep tonight! :)
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 01:41:23 am »
That's an interesting idea but it's predicated on the notion that Trump can grasp the reality of an impending huge loss.

Is he that sane?

Hard to say, I mean he is still going on about Ted Cruz for crying out loud


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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 01:42:29 am »

replace that with Ted Cruz and you have Trumps brain

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 01:46:46 am »
replace that with Ted Cruz and you have Trumps brain


That Ted Cruz is still living in Trump's head surprises me not at all.   It conforms precisely with what I have always thought of the man.   He is one big Ego,   and like any bully,   the person he hates the most is the one who stood up to him.   


Trump has always been motivated by ego.   It is my hope that this drive to be thought of as "the best"   may engender in him sufficient effort to govern well.   

At this point,  that is all I can hope for. 


I know Hillary will govern horribly.   


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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2016, 01:47:59 am »
Oh, man; I'll never get to sleep tonight! :)


Yeah,   that's quite the effect.   I remember the first time I saw it.   Yeah,  it's really freaky deaky.   


Startling people out of their complacency is entirely the point. 


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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2016, 01:50:07 am »

That Ted Cruz is still living in Trump's head surprises me not at all.   It conforms precisely with what I have always thought of the man.   He is one big Ego,   and like any bully,   the person he hates the most is the one who stood up to him.   

If Trump makes it to 90 he will still be complaining about Ted Cruz.

I think Trump would be worse than Hillary at this point, not that I'd vote for either.

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 01:51:52 am »

Yeah,   that's quite the effect.   I remember the first time I saw it.   Yeah,  it's really freaky deaky...
See this yet?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3719150/She-s-devil-Trump-goes-Hillary-bashing-says-Bernie-Sanders-deal-devil-endorsing-her.html

Sen. Bernie Sanders, Trump told an overflow crowd at a high school in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, 'made a deal with the devil' when he endorsed Clinton at last week's Democratic National Convention.

'She's the devil!' he added.

Trump has hinted at the insult before, saying Friday in Colorado that 'Bernie blew it. He sold his soul to the devil. He did.' ...

'Once he made that deal, and believe me, he has buyer's remorse.'

'If he would have just not done anything – just go home, go to sleep, relax – he would have been a hero,' he said. 'But he made a deal with the devil. She's the devil! He made a deal with the devil. It's true.'
America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign. -Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 01:58:46 am »
If Trump makes it to 90 he will still be complaining about Ted Cruz.

I think Trump would be worse than Hillary at this point, not that I'd vote for either.


I think that with very few exceptions,   there is no one worse than Hillary.    Nancy Pelosi or Debbie Wasserman Schultz perhaps,   but not very many.   


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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2016, 01:59:54 am »
See this yet?


Yeah,   but I place no significance on it. 


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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2016, 02:07:21 am »
I think Trump would be worse than Hillary at this point, not that I'd vote for either.

On the contrary, he'd be much better ... if only because his impeachment would happen sooner, and be successful.

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2016, 02:16:03 am »

I think that with very few exceptions,   there is no one worse than Hillary.    Nancy Pelosi or Debbie Wasserman Schultz perhaps,   but not very many.

Geeesh! What a [terrifying] line-up! All bad.

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Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2016, 02:22:40 am »
The Trump School for People Who Can't Read Good:

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2016, 02:28:36 am »
Trump WILL NOT suffer a humiliating defeat.  If he's down by 10 points in the middle of September, look for the excuses to start flying as he looks for a way to bow out.
Romney survived defeat ok.....well....hmmm.....oh never mind.   :smokin:

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2016, 02:38:56 am »
I have posted some of these links before and feel they warrant reposting. It has been determined by several sources that Trump indeed has a personality disorder.  He is a narcissist.  Additionally, there are parallels in Trump's personality to those of Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini.  While some people in this forum find it offensive to compare Trump to Hitler, I find it just as offensive to bury the similarities and pretend that they don't exist.

http://addictinginfo.org/2015/11/22/top-u-s-psychiatrists-confirm-trumps-narcissistic-personality-disorder-textbook-case/

http://time.com/3992363/trump-narcissism/

http://www.inquisitr.com/2870145/malignant-and-psychopathic-donald-trump-expert-studies-600-hours-of-trump-footage/

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/why-donald-trump-is-worse-than-hitler.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/donald_trump_and_narcissistic_personality_disorder_an_interview_with_sam_vaknin.html

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/a-neuroscientist-explains-trump-has-a-mental-disorder-that-makes-him-a-dangerous-world-leader/

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/22/is-donald-trump-a-textbook-narcissist/
Thank you for the links! Someone in my lineage has this disorder; it is hideous. She hasn't empathy or compassion for anyone but herself. Even at her own daughter's wedding, she didn't compliment her on her pretty dress, etc.; instead she just kept saying, "Don't I look fab? Isn't this a great MOB dress? Aren't my shoes cute?"  **nononono*
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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2016, 02:39:28 am »
Romney survived defeat ok.....well....hmmm.....oh never mind.

This year, I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat.

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2016, 02:40:12 am »
He is disordered.  I am not sure the party will recover.

He is stupid; has ADHD and has lived well off corruption his whole life.

THAT is what is wrong with him.   He got into the graft game because he was useful; he was expendable from the standpoint of contractors but well-connected through family to Tammany.

He did it well and made it into a quasi-legitimate business.  Didn't hurt him that as a young man he was quite attractive; cleaned up well in a suit.  Who would have suspected that the chiseled blond Adonis in the Ralph Loren tailored suit was nothing but a Tammany bagman?

Success feeds on itself; and he got a chance to own a fraction of casinos - with the use of his name, nice gig if you can do it.  And of course a CASINO will be the kind of business that someone of low-intelligence will be drawn to.

From there...reality television.  Again...something that dull-normals like himself would understand.  I wonder if Donnie has read a book in his life?  ONE BOOK?  Don't give me "his" book.  I'll bet he never read it, much less edited it, MUCH less wrote it.  Ghostwritten, all the way.  He hires people to swamp out his gold potty; and he hires people to write books under his name.  Now, to write Position Papers.

Success feeds on itself, but the other tendency is for a stupid man's reach to exceed his grasp.  And that is why we are where we are.

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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2016, 02:40:50 am »
If Trump makes it to 90 he will still be complaining about Ted Cruz.


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Re: There is something very wrong with Donald Trump
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2016, 02:42:13 am »
This year, I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat.

Of all the ones who got winnowed out...I'd have cheerfully supported any of them except Goober Graham, Kase-Itch or Shrub.  ANY of the rest of them would have been better than what we've wound up with.

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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2016, 02:42:33 am »
The Trump School for People Who Can't Read Good:




Trump formulating his defeat response.

Donald Trump on Monday said he's "afraid" the November election "is about to be rigged," stoking mistrust of the system that he has fostered among his supporters.

The GOP nominee consistently complained of a system "rigged" against him as an "outsider" during the primaries. Now, with less than 100 days until the general election, Trump is again expressing doubts about the legitimacy of the process.

"I'm afraid the election's gonna be rigged. I have to be honest," Trump said.