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Rush: A Conservative Converts: Trump Can Win
« on: July 27, 2016, 08:34:33 pm »
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/07/27/a_conservative_converts_trump_can_win


A Conservative Converts: Trump Can Win
July 27, 2016
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RUSH: We're gonna start in Logan, Utah.  This is Michael.  Great to have you.  Welcome to the program.

CALLER:  Hey, thanks, Rush.  So what I was calling in to talk about today, Rush, was I feel like I finally understand some of the appeal for Trump.  I will be a Trump voter.  I'm a Republican voter.  I am a Rush Baby, so I've been kind of following the path for a while now.  And one thing I've been trying to piece together is why Trump has so much support.  So one thing I was thinking... I mean, you're gonna know better than me. But when was the last time a Republican voter had a win?  Maybe back in like '08 with Prop 8 in California when we doubled down and we were able to stop that.  That's like the last thing I remember.  You're gonna know better than I am.  But as a Republican voter, I don't have a lot of wins.  But when I look at Trump, I think, "Hey, maybe this guy can do something. Maybe we can win something for a change."

RUSH:  No, let me tell you something.  There have been some wins since then.  The Republicans won back control of the House in 2010, and then they won back control of the Senate in 2014.  It's after that that you have to ask: What do we have to show for it?  It's not that we haven't won; it's that they don't seem to count for anything.  And the last really big win was 2004 with George W. Bush's reelection.  You talk about Prop 8 in California. That was a win, but look at what has happened to many of the public people that voted for it.

They've been destroyed.  This poor guy that ran Mozilla, the Firefox web browser, Brendan Eich? Gone, because he donated a thousand dollars to the effort.  But I get your point.  There hasn't been a lot of rallying calls. There hasn't been a whole lot of wins.  The House is a big win, but it's not like winning a presidential election, and we've lost two of those in a row.  But it's not just that.  We don't even... Many Republicans don't even think we've competed seriously or competently.

CALLER:  Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like, I mean, obviously we won the House, we won the Senate, but what good's that done us?  I'm talking about wins like policy.  Policy wins.  There's not much. There just isn't a whole lot of it to come by.  So when the establishment looks at us and is like, "Hey, well, you know, Trump isn't this. He's not conservative. He's not..." This is like, "Well, guess what? You're not doing any of that for us, so maybe we'll take a chance on him."

RUSH:  So that's why you were not a Trump supporter because he's not conservative?

CALLER:  Yeah. But, I mean, obviously I'm not gonna vote for Hillary.  So there you have it.

RUSH:  Well, no, no, I understand.  Believe me, you're not alone on that with people, the conservatives not thinking Trump is one and then therefore he's not deserving of support.  No matter. No matter what.  But regardless, in your case, something's causing you to moderate and come around.  I suspect that it's what you say: You want to be on the winning side.  And the other side here is Hillary Clinton, and I know that... I don't know too...

They're out there. I don't know too many people who actually want Hillary to win so that conservatives will be punished, but there are some who do. Yeah, conservatives supporting Trump will be punished.  But all that aside, just in the realm of politics: What a rank amateur, Donald Trump -- in terms of politics, a rank amateur outsider -- has pulled off here today, with no media support?  Not in the Drive-Bys?  It is mind-boggling.

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Re: Rush: A Conservative Converts: Trump Can Win
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2016, 10:42:43 pm »
I'm not reading all of that.


So did they say what the conservatives are being converted to?

fascism?

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Re: Rush: A Conservative Converts: Trump Can Win
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2016, 10:58:48 pm »
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But all that aside, just in the realm of politics: What a rank amateur, Donald Trump -- in terms of politics, a rank amateur outsider -- has pulled off here today, with no media support?  Not in the Drive-Bys?  It is mind-boggling.

So many errors, but let's address two of them. First of all, Trump is no rank amateur outsider. All of Trump's career he has been nose deep in the butt of politics, buying politicians, influencing votes, brown nosing, even running for President before. He even started his own PAC in New York (an anti-gambling PAC to prevent NY from allowing casinos to open that would compete with his New Jersey casinos). He was the definition of a crony establishment guy. Soros with a bigger mouth.  And that's a good comparison. Soros never held elected office yet he  surely isn't considered an outside or amateur on the political scene. They are both from the donor crony class.

As for no media support, actually, the media propped him up as their gold mine. They have him ten times or more the airtime of the other primary candidates. https://patriotpost.us/posts/41318

 He should have been on payroll at a few of the networks he was on so much. Les Moonves (CBS) even spilled the beans that Trump was their cash cow and they were milking it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leslie-moonves-donald-trump-may-871464



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Re: Rush: A Conservative Converts: Trump Can Win
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2016, 11:09:27 pm »
Not the first time.

Remember "Maverick" John McCain, he was such an outsider too. lol.


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Re: Rush: A Conservative Converts: Trump Can Win
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2016, 11:59:56 pm »
Rush is the actual convert here.

For him and for many - it is all about 'winning' - as if this is some giant fantasy football game where we can root for our team.

Rush went from a staunch conservative to an Apostate Nationalist Populist Apologist.

I no longer listen to his show or purchase his services.  He is a false Conservative, having sold his principles for what he thinks is a 'winner' and an audience-booster.

I've known plenty of devout Christians who have converted to Judaism, Islam or Atheism, and they have come back from their congestion preaching the attributes of the superiority of their newfound convictions versus what they used to believe.  The pattern is the same as I am hearing from Rush.

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