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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #200 on: July 21, 2016, 07:21:17 pm »
Dana Loesch is saying Cruz endorsing Trump is absolutely irrelevant to anything.  Trump is the nominee.  Nothing is going to change that.  So why focus on it?  It's a distraction.  Focus on the WH, on 2016, all of that vitriol needs to be redirected on Hillary Clinton, and people aren't doing it. :chairbang:

More animosity toward Cruz than anything being said against Clinton. :shrug:   The media loves this...

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« Reply #201 on: July 21, 2016, 07:29:17 pm »
Another analogy found on FB:

So... I caught my fiance cheating last month. I found out that his values regarding marriage aren't exactly in line with mine, even though in the beginning he pretended that they were :(

He called me names and insulted my family.. he told me that he was the best person I'd ever find and if I don't stay with him I'll never get anyone else. He said he didn't need me.

 But since I already made the vow to marry him... I should just go through with it right? Because if not, I'm a liar and a traitor and no one will ever be able to trust me again.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #202 on: July 21, 2016, 07:30:56 pm »
Daniel Horowitz ‏@RMConservative  60m60 minutes ago
I'm hearing they might put John Boehner on stage tonight to rebut Cruz. it would complete the freak show full circle.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #203 on: July 21, 2016, 07:31:18 pm »
This morning Ted said he would not be a "servile puppy dog" for Trump.  Neither will I be a "servile puppy dog" for Trump.  The former candidates have become "servile puppy dogs" except for Kasich who was asked to be Trump's Vice President and he said, "NO".  Kasich will not be a "servile puppy dog" for Trump. 

Kasich is first a Christian and he has said that.  His family comes next.  Service as governor of his state is next.  He is a man of honor and I have had a love for him since he produced the last balanced budget this country has had.  When he resigned from the House, I was upset he left.  He had just married, and he left to start his family and support them.  I totally admired him and still do.  He will always do what he thinks is right for God, family, state, country.

My significant other has a son (pilot for major airline) who lives in Ohio and we go there every year if we can. We go in August to get away from the high heat here in Texas.  We put "stuff" in the car, including the 5 lb. Yorkie, and head north, stopping at casinos along the way.  I feel fine in Ohio knowing it is a conservative state with Kasich as Governor.

From Ohio, we head north to Cornell, New York, where the daughter (liberal to the left of Stalin) works for Cornell University - the most liberal town/university in the whole world.  The area is lovely among the mountains, but I can't wait to get out of there.  The LBGT (variations of homosexual deviancy) is a large group there.  I doubt there is a single conservative in Cornell. There is no way in hell I would live there.  If I worked for Cornell Un., I would get fired the first day.

it's 95 here, with humidity that's fogging up the windows.  I want to move to Newfoundland.  Want to come?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #204 on: July 21, 2016, 07:33:55 pm »
CLEVELAND — Sen. Ted Cruz's camp fired back at Chris Christie Thursday, accusing the governor of having "turned over his political testicles long ago."

Jeff Roe, Cruz's former campaign manager, took to the airwaves to hit New Jersey's governor after Christie spent lthe morning and last night trashing Cruz after the Texas lawmaker failed to endorse GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday.

"That guy turned over his political testicles long ago," Roe said on the Chris Stigall Show on Philadelphia radio. "So I don't take what he has to say with any meaning. You know, he embarrassed himself pretty quickly in this."

Christie endorsed Trump shortly after ending his own presidential bid and now heads his transition team. He lost out in the battle to be Trump's running mate.

Roe's response came after Christie unleashed on Cruz Wednesday night after the lawmaker's speech during the GOP convention. Christie called the speech "awful" and "selfish."

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http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/07/cruz_camp_blasts_christie_he_turned_over_his_polit.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

LOL, I hope Jeff Roe never goes anywhere.

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« Reply #205 on: July 21, 2016, 07:37:00 pm »
That would do it.  If you had any tiny, tiny question left where DT stands, that would answer it for you.

No, that can't be...Hannity just said Trump is an outsider.  /s

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #206 on: July 21, 2016, 07:38:04 pm »
Daniel Horowitz ‏@RMConservative  60m60 minutes ago
I'm hearing they might put John Boehner on stage tonight to rebut Cruz. it would complete the freak show full circle.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #207 on: July 21, 2016, 07:38:14 pm »
Most certainly Mr. Trump will have a response.  It will thrill his supporters.  We will be told the trap was set perfectly.

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I wish he would hurry up and get to tweeting. 


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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #208 on: July 21, 2016, 07:39:36 pm »
No, that can't be...Hannity just said Trump is an outsider.  /s

"My good friend Charlie Rangel"

That Hannity?
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #209 on: July 21, 2016, 07:40:00 pm »
Yeah rebut, conservative principles, following your conscience, and the consitution.  :thud:

I'll have to try and catch that.

LOL, right?


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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #210 on: July 21, 2016, 07:41:35 pm »
Daaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmnnnnn


LOL, bring it!  We have to see this!

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #212 on: July 21, 2016, 07:43:00 pm »
@Lando Lincoln

I wish he would hurry up and get to tweeting.

Trump's supporters always say he is playing chess.

From where I sit, it looks more like tiddlywinks.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #213 on: July 21, 2016, 07:44:47 pm »
Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  27m27 minutes ago
Gonna be real awkward when those ripping Cruz now need jobs later from a 44-year old guy who can raise $90 million post-November.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #214 on: July 21, 2016, 07:45:09 pm »
Yup. Rush is dead to me. Adding him to the ever growing pile of hosts I stopped listening to.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #215 on: July 21, 2016, 07:49:24 pm »
EXCLUSIVE: Cops fear for Ted Cruz safety as they offer to step up protection for senator after his refusal to endorse Trump led to fury at the convention

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3701810/Cops-fear-Ted-Cruz-safety-offer-step-protection-anti-Trump-senator.html

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #216 on: July 21, 2016, 07:50:46 pm »
Look folks, I admire Ted Cruz.  He gained my utmost respect with what he did last night.   The vitriol and hatred being fired at him, his wife, his family and all of us by the GOP and Trump's folks is just another example of a nation and culture that hates what was once considered the pillars of virtue, morality and righteousness.

Last night was validation that my resignation from the GOP was perfectly warranted.  The hatred and vitriol this morning and this afternoon directed at us from the Trump brigades continues to illustrate that it is not Hillary they fear and despise - but you and me.

That said, I think the sloganeering for Cruz 2020 is a bit off-putting.  Conservatives do not get wrapped up in cults of personality and assert they can save us and the nation.   Marxists do that.  Fascists (or if you prefer, Nationalist Populists) do that.  If you take time to seriously realize what is happening - this is no longer simple party politics.  You are witnessing the absolute END of a Republic and the start of something frightening and dangerous in terms of your near future and the future of liberty.

That the phrase "defend the Constitution" is booed by delegates at a Convention of a party that portrays itself as it's only defender (simply because they hate the man speaking it), was as revealing to what the Trump phenomena is all about as anything else you could ever demand in terms of a sign.

It's time to get sober because all of this is not some sporting event where you can rah-rah your team, have a beer and go home to bed later drunk and happy.  We've been fundamentally transformed, and we have all been played.

Sloganeering Cruz in 2020 is absurd considering you are watching the permanent entrenchment of a Ruling Class oligarchy under the false guise of an everyman outsider businessman who will fix all that ails us. The mobs want of a monarchy from both the Left and the populist nationalist right.   Constitutional Conservatives are in exodus and in the wilderness.  You are witness to the death of a party and a Republic by an overwhelming majority of the population that no longer has any fealty or use for the foundational principles and the documents that safeguarded liberty.  They want a king.  It's all about the man, or the woman, or loyalty to a party instead of once solid principles or values.  The absolute absurd and ridiculous efforts made to justify the egregious and the affronts to those principles demonstrates the total abandonment of the pillars of our liberty by both major parties.

They will claim them, and pay lip service to them, but the fruits are easily discernible to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

This is a day to mourn.  Not a day to proclaim a new president, a new savior or caesar for 2020. 

A nation has to be re-evangelized to the religious heritage it has discarded and the foundational principles it has abandoned.  A nation has to repent of it's waywardness.  But the mobs clamoring for Hillary, Bernie or Trump see no need for such things.  Indeed, even their champions themselves see no need for such humility under God because they see themselves as the means to perfection.  They despise "bible thumpers" and portray anyone suggesting a return to First Principles as religious fanatics who pose a danger to freedom and the separation of church and state.

These nominees reflect the culture and this people.  It's time to get real about that and stop fooling yourselves that we are a majority, because if we were - the majority has surrendered to ideologies and leaders who are anathema to everything we stood for, replacing them for empty promises of vengeance, walls and punishments to sate their feelings.  And no marvel, for the churches and religious institutions themselves are dwindling in attendance and influence. Government has become god.  Men are made messiahs and saviors.

Cruz has indeed manifested himself as a leader of the kind of Conservatism we still believe in and make us who we are, and he can do well to preach it.  Because until we return to becoming a religious and moral people, we have no hope of having decent leaders, because this people and the mobs will reject them for worse and more heinous wicked ones.  Being deceived and doing the deceiving because they delight in the season of unrighteousness under a sole ruler who is their own authority.

A people have to be won to the principles we once shared before we can give any thought to someone like a Cruz being elected a leader that can administer a nation.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #217 on: July 21, 2016, 07:59:04 pm »
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #218 on: July 21, 2016, 07:59:11 pm »
Once upon a time there was a Republican nominee who spent his time campaigning against Democrats instead of attacking his fellow Republicans.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #219 on: July 21, 2016, 08:01:44 pm »
  (I can't embed tweets since I gave up admin ability here so they are just links)..

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #220 on: July 21, 2016, 08:02:58 pm »
Look folks, I admire Ted Cruz.  He gained my utmost respect with what he did last night.   The vitriol and hatred being fired at him, his wife, his family and all of us by the GOP and Trump's folks is just another example of a nation and culture that hates what was once considered the pillars of virtue, morality and righteousness.

Last night was validation that my resignation from the GOP was perfectly warranted.  The hatred and vitriol this morning and this afternoon directed at us from the Trump brigades continues to illustrate that it is not Hillary they fear and despise - but you and me.

That said, I think the sloganeering for Cruz 2020 is a bit off-putting.  Conservatives do not get wrapped up in cults of personality and assert they can save us and the nation.   Marxists do that.  Fascists (or if you prefer, Nationalist Populists) do that.  If you take time to seriously realize what is happening - this is no longer simple party politics.  You are witnessing the absolute END of a Republic and the start of something frightening and dangerous in terms of your near future and the future of liberty.

That the phrase "defend the Constitution" is booed by delegates at a Convention of a party that portrays itself as it's only defender (simply because they hate the man speaking it), was as revealing to what the Trump phenomena is all about as anything else you could ever demand in terms of a sign.

It's time to get sober because all of this is not some sporting event where you can rah-rah your team, have a beer and go home to bed later drunk and happy.  We've been fundamentally transformed, and we have all been played.

Sloganeering Cruz in 2020 is absurd considering you are watching the permanent entrenchment of a Ruling Class oligarchy under the false guise of an everyman outsider businessman who will fix all that ails us. The mobs want of a monarchy from both the Left and the populist nationalist right.   Constitutional Conservatives are in exodus and in the wilderness.  You are witness to the death of a party and a Republic by an overwhelming majority of the population that no longer has any fealty or use for the foundational principles and the documents that safeguarded liberty.  They want a king.  It's all about the man, or the woman, or loyalty to a party instead of once solid principles or values.  The absolute absurd and ridiculous efforts made to justify the egregious and the affronts to those principles demonstrates the total abandonment of the pillars of our liberty by both major parties.

They will claim them, and pay lip service to them, but the fruits are easily discernible to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

This is a day to mourn.  Not a day to proclaim a new president, a new savior or caesar for 2020. 

A nation has to be re-evangelized to the religious heritage it has discarded and the foundational principles it has abandoned.  A nation has to repent of it's waywardness.  But the mobs clamoring for Hillary, Bernie or Trump see no need for such things.  Indeed, even their champions themselves see no need for such humility under God because they see themselves as the means to perfection.  They despise "bible thumpers" and portray anyone suggesting a return to First Principles as religious fanatics who pose a danger to freedom and the separation of church and state.

These nominees reflect the culture and this people.  It's time to get real about that and stop fooling yourselves that we are a majority, because if we were - the majority has surrendered to ideologies and leaders who are anathema to everything we stood for, replacing them for empty promises of vengeance, walls and punishments to sate their feelings.  And no marvel, for the churches and religious institutions themselves are dwindling in attendance and influence. Government has become god.  Men are made messiahs and saviors.

Cruz has indeed manifested himself as a leader of the kind of Conservatism we still believe in and make us who we are, and he can do well to preach it.  Because until we return to becoming a religious and moral people, we have no hope of having decent leaders, because this people and the mobs will reject them for worse and more heinous wicked ones.  Being deceived and doing the deceiving because they delight in the season of unrighteousness under a sole ruler who is their own authority.

A people have to be won to the principles we once shared before we can give any thought to someone like a Cruz being elected a leader that can administer a nation.

Well stated, great post!
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #221 on: July 21, 2016, 08:04:02 pm »
Look folks, I admire Ted Cruz.  He gained my utmost respect with what he did last night.   The vitriol and hatred being fired at him, his wife, his family and all of us by the GOP and Trump's folks is just another example of a nation and culture that hates what was once considered the pillars of virtue, morality and righteousness.

Last night was validation that my resignation from the GOP was perfectly warranted.  The hatred and vitriol this morning and this afternoon directed at us from the Trump brigades continues to illustrate that it is not Hillary they fear and despise - but you and me.

That said, I think the sloganeering for Cruz 2020 is a bit off-putting.  Conservatives do not get wrapped up in cults of personality and assert they can save us and the nation.   Marxists do that.  Fascists (or if you prefer, Nationalist Populists) do that.  If you take time to seriously realize what is happening - this is no longer simple party politics.  You are witnessing the absolute END of a Republic and the start of something frightening and dangerous in terms of your near future and the future of liberty.

That the phrase "defend the Constitution" is booed by delegates at a Convention of a party that portrays itself as it's only defender (simply because they hate the man speaking it), was as revealing to what the Trump phenomena is all about as anything else you could ever demand in terms of a sign.

It's time to get sober because all of this is not some sporting event where you can rah-rah your team, have a beer and go home to bed later drunk and happy.  We've been fundamentally transformed, and we have all been played.

Sloganeering Cruz in 2020 is absurd considering you are watching the permanent entrenchment of a Ruling Class oligarchy under the false guise of an everyman outsider businessman who will fix all that ails us. The mobs want of a monarchy from both the Left and the populist nationalist right.   Constitutional Conservatives are in exodus and in the wilderness.  You are witness to the death of a party and a Republic by an overwhelming majority of the population that no longer has any fealty or use for the foundational principles and the documents that safeguarded liberty.  They want a king.  It's all about the man, or the woman, or loyalty to a party instead of once solid principles or values.  The absolute absurd and ridiculous efforts made to justify the egregious and the affronts to those principles demonstrates the total abandonment of the pillars of our liberty by both major parties.

They will claim them, and pay lip service to them, but the fruits are easily discernible to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

This is a day to mourn.  Not a day to proclaim a new president, a new savior or caesar for 2020. 

A nation has to be re-evangelized to the religious heritage it has discarded and the foundational principles it has abandoned.  A nation has to repent of it's waywardness.  But the mobs clamoring for Hillary, Bernie or Trump see no need for such things.  Indeed, even their champions themselves see no need for such humility under God because they see themselves as the means to perfection.  They despise "bible thumpers" and portray anyone suggesting a return to First Principles as religious fanatics who pose a danger to freedom and the separation of church and state.

These nominees reflect the culture and this people.  It's time to get real about that and stop fooling yourselves that we are a majority, because if we were - the majority has surrendered to ideologies and leaders who are anathema to everything we stood for, replacing them for empty promises of vengeance, walls and punishments to sate their feelings.  And no marvel, for the churches and religious institutions themselves are dwindling in attendance and influence. Government has become god.  Men are made messiahs and saviors.

Cruz has indeed manifested himself as a leader of the kind of Conservatism we still believe in and make us who we are, and he can do well to preach it.  Because until we return to becoming a religious and moral people, we have no hope of having decent leaders, because this people and the mobs will reject them for worse and more heinous wicked ones.  Being deceived and doing the deceiving because they delight in the season of unrighteousness under a sole ruler who is their own authority.

A people have to be won to the principles we once shared before we can give any thought to someone like a Cruz being elected a leader that can administer a nation.

INVAR....very well said...thank you.

Sadly our country is sliding down the slippery slope.  You can see it everywhere....from fewer people in the pews, to women and men in each other's bathrooms.  Not to mention being able to marry pretty much anything with a pulse.  I don't see our country returning to the "shining city on a hill."  My children will inherit a country that we will never recognize. 

Ted Cruz may very well be the last gasp of "conservatism."  I seriously doubt we'll ever see another republican in the white house.

The wonderful thing though....is that our hope is in Christ! Not in this world.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #222 on: July 21, 2016, 08:05:08 pm »
Trump's supporters always say he is playing chess.

From where I sit, it looks more like tiddlywinks.

Nah.  Trump's playing Liar's Poker.  It's the only game where he has an inherent advantage.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #223 on: July 21, 2016, 08:08:01 pm »
Look folks, I admire Ted Cruz.  He gained my utmost respect with what he did last night.   The vitriol and hatred being fired at him, his wife, his family and all of us by the GOP and Trump's folks is just another example of a nation and culture that hates what was once considered the pillars of virtue, morality and righteousness.

Last night was validation that my resignation from the GOP was perfectly warranted.  The hatred and vitriol this morning and this afternoon directed at us from the Trump brigades continues to illustrate that it is not Hillary they fear and despise - but you and me.



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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - THURSDAY, JULY 21
« Reply #224 on: July 21, 2016, 08:08:24 pm »
The wonderful thing though....is that our hope is in Christ! Not in this world.

Yup!