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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #550 on: July 21, 2016, 01:34:56 am »
I value your opinion, but disagree.

Sure, at some more limbic level of my brain, I'd love to see Cruz come out all claws and teeth and shred that pompous SOB who slandered his way to the nomination.

BUT> For starters, the bots out there would howl that he was whining, a sore loser, couldn't take the heat, poor teddy bare, and a host of other feces thrown at the wall.

The greatest thing Cruz can do to deprive them and Trump of that whole line of argument is to be better than they are.

Move on, to focus on the future and not the past, on the Constitution, on OUR country, and what we need to do to return the Republic to good health, militarily, economically, and socially, and leave Trump out of it. No endorsement, no attack either. Focus on solving problems and by doing so give the new nominee a mark to be gauged by. I think that will be far more impressive and effective in the long run, and deprive the usual suspects of material to rant about.

If they disagree, they expose themselves for what they are, and that places them in a position of either showing their true colors or having to give at least tacit approval to the message, if not Cruz himself.

I don't want him to come out all claws and teeth.  Like you say, he'd look like a poor loser.

But someone said it was gracious enough to refrain from punching Trump in the mouth, and I wholeheartedly agree.   I want him to ignore Trump's existence.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #551 on: July 21, 2016, 01:35:14 am »
Biggest applause of the convention so far. Even bigger than when they declared an open bar.

Well that's going to torque some people off...
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #552 on: July 21, 2016, 01:36:10 am »
He congratulated Donald Trump on winning the nomination last night.  CLASSY!!!

Said he wants to see conservative principles prevail in November!

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« Reply #553 on: July 21, 2016, 01:36:44 am »
He went full FReeper.  Never go full FReeper.
I thought I heard some Tropic Thunder.... :silly:
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #554 on: July 21, 2016, 01:36:46 am »
Good to see a good applause for Ted.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #555 on: July 21, 2016, 01:36:59 am »
He congratulates Trump. Gracious to the end.

(Still want to see him mic drop, though.)
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #556 on: July 21, 2016, 01:37:11 am »
I wish he spoke like this during the primaries. One of Cruz's biggest problems is he spoke like a preacher- speaking at people instead of to them.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #557 on: July 21, 2016, 01:37:19 am »

@jbarro  35s36 seconds ago
You'd think Ted could have just left Heidi out of it.‪
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« Reply #558 on: July 21, 2016, 01:38:51 am »
Because it is the party convention and it is what they are selling. People need to really start looking at this whole thing as a business- they are selling you a product, and that product isn't the candidate- the candidate is the marketing gimmick to them, like Ronald McDonald. No, what they are selling is you giving them continued power. They are going to always set up the false dichotomy where you either choose them or you are choosing (or you are) evil. In the Coke versus Pepsi war, you never hear them talking about Dr. Pepper. They can't let people realize there are other options that may fit closer to their values.

The Democrats will do the exact same thing, only in reverse. And both will continue to sell you their power to keep them in business and they'll keep putting up characters as marketing gimmicks.

The two major political parties are as big of business as the largest Fortune 500 companies in the country, and what they sell is emotional connections to them.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #559 on: July 21, 2016, 01:39:41 am »
Cruz is making me tear up.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #560 on: July 21, 2016, 01:39:45 am »
CSPAN cut to Trump making a surprise entrance into the building (they kept the audio going).

He just couldn't stand someone else getting limelight.

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« Reply #561 on: July 21, 2016, 01:40:32 am »
Yeah, but Ted - is Trump really the "best for our country and their future?"
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« Reply #562 on: July 21, 2016, 01:41:12 am »

@Txsleuthe  53s54 seconds ago Fort Worth, TX
LOLOLOL  C-Span breaks from Cruz to show Trump and his peeps entering the building.

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« Reply #563 on: July 21, 2016, 01:41:27 am »
I want him to ignore Trump's existence.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #564 on: July 21, 2016, 01:41:32 am »

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« Reply #565 on: July 21, 2016, 01:41:44 am »
Cruz is making his version of Reagan's 76 address and reminding people the people are in charge, not a dictator. He is reminding people of our core values. Something we haven't heard almost all election cycle.

Where was this Cruz during the primaries?

Oh yea, constantly having to react to being called an adulterer, liar, globalist, or son of a Kennedy assassin.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #566 on: July 21, 2016, 01:41:55 am »
Trump makes his grand entrance during Cruz's speech and cameras pull away to Trump.

Stay classy, Trump.  /extreme sarcasm

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #567 on: July 21, 2016, 01:42:25 am »
jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty  3m3 minutes ago
Ted Cruz is gonna show his emotional range in this speech. He really wants a Reagan in 1976 "we nominated the wrong man" reaction.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #568 on: July 21, 2016, 01:43:40 am »
Your home is conservative .  The loss of your support hurts our side not the left.

Now if you can make Bernie supporters stay home, you are cooking with oil..

Not if the person you're not supporting hasn't got a conservative bone in his body.

Our "home" is no longer conservative, Lonestar.  It's now much closer to Bernie than it is to Ronnie.

That's why we can't "support" a bad guy like Trump.  He's destroying our "home."
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #569 on: July 21, 2016, 01:44:03 am »
Trump makes his grand entrance during Cruz's speech and cameras pull away to Trump.

Stay classy, Trump.  /extreme sarcasm

I made the mistake of clicking over to the freeper live thread. Disgusting how much hate they have for Cruz and how they have 'tingles up their legs' when they cut to Trump for a second.

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« Reply #570 on: July 21, 2016, 01:44:31 am »
What's this free-dom he's talking about?

I thought this was about making America great or safe or something.

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« Reply #571 on: July 21, 2016, 01:45:40 am »
Cruz is making me tear up.

He is speaking in the grand themes of Conservatism....... of values............ of FREEDOM.


Things that Trump doesn't even know enough about to babble about them.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #572 on: July 21, 2016, 01:46:19 am »
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #573 on: July 21, 2016, 01:47:13 am »
I'll bet you ten bucks something will happen that will ensure this great speech is upstaged and other than YouTube, this will be the last time you'll see this in its entirety.

You can't have someone talk about liberty, freedom, the constitution, the bill of rights, and all that old fashioned stuff. It empowers the individual and makes them think they don't need someone from the government to help them.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #574 on: July 21, 2016, 01:47:37 am »
Cruz is KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK!!!!!