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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #475 on: July 21, 2016, 12:57:09 am »
Definitely scary looking.... :scared smiley:

She could flex her arm and pop your head like zit between her bicep and forearm

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #476 on: July 21, 2016, 12:57:25 am »
True, that, but graciousness under such circumstances has a class and strength all its own. That may start the cracks that lead to real buyers remorse in the softer supporters of the nominated.

Joe, normally I'd agree with you, but I just think Trump crossed a line.  I'm not saying Cruz should get up there and act like a jerk...well, we know he wouldn't do that.  But gracious toward Trump, after everything?  No, I'm not for it. 

But that's my opinion and he doesn't listen to me, lol.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #477 on: July 21, 2016, 12:58:04 am »
I would think it would be gracious to not mention DT in the speech.
I think so, too.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #478 on: July 21, 2016, 12:58:25 am »
Good grief!!

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #479 on: July 21, 2016, 12:58:35 am »
Trump can't wait to get his hands on the BLM. I think this is one place he plans on stealing from American.

I'm serious here. Is the man capable of stringing together three coherent sentences in a row?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #480 on: July 21, 2016, 12:58:50 am »
Perpetrators love to speak of obligatory graciousness others should show them AFTER their offenses.  Here's a clue.  The world does not revolve around Trump.  In this setting, Cruz's commitment to Truth takes precedent over Donald Jerkwad Trump's feelings.  There is a broader picture to consider.  Anything less gives aid and comfort to evil.  It is in Donald J Trump's best interests to call him on his lies.  Honestly it is.  The fact that he gets away with his lies and insults is part of why he keeps doing it.  It works.

Not a full throated endorsement of Trump .  A few kind words.

Donald was very tenacious in real estate and making it in the Manhattan real estate market.     
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #481 on: July 21, 2016, 12:59:06 am »
For those who do not know, here is the line-up:

Wednesday's speakers will be:

Radio host Laura Ingraham

Phil Ruffin, businessman, casino owner and long-time Trump friend

Pam Bondi, Attorney General of Florida

Retired astronaut Eileen Collins

Michelle Van Etten, small business owner

Kentucky State Sen. Ralph Alvarado Jr.

Dr. Darrell Scott, pastor of New Spirit Revival Center Ministries in Cleveland

Harold Hamm, oil and natural gas mogul

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

Lynn Patton, vice president of the Eric Trump Foundation

U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida

U.S. Sen Ted Cruz of Texas

Eric Trump, Donald Trump's son

Former Speaker of the house Newt Gingrich and his wife, Callista

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, presumptive candidate for vice president
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #482 on: July 21, 2016, 12:59:35 am »
To add to your point @CatherineofAragon - determining God's will for our lives is not usually difficult because He has already given us the guide book.  If what we are doing goes against Scripture, then we are not to do it.

That's what I believe about voting for Donald Trump right now.  He is in defiance of God's laws.  He flaunts God's laws.  He is a mocker.

Voting for him is in direct opposition to the words in Scripture, and I cannot do it.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #483 on: July 21, 2016, 01:00:47 am »
John Dickerson ‏@jdickerson  8h8 hours ago

One GOP voice: "Pence says he is a conservative but not angry about it which balances a nominee who is angry & not a conservative about it."
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #484 on: July 21, 2016, 01:01:33 am »
Not a full throated endorsement of Trump .  A few kind words.

Donald was very tenacious in real estate and making it in the Manhattan real estate market.   

That's too kind.  Trump paid to play in the Manhattan real estate market at the expense of those playing by the rules.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #485 on: July 21, 2016, 01:04:33 am »
stuart stevens ‏@stuartpstevens  51s51 seconds ago

This is test of every crackpot idea of how R's should win: just more whites, just more media hate, just more anger, campaigns don't matter.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #486 on: July 21, 2016, 01:05:14 am »
John Dickerson ‏@jdickerson  8h8 hours ago

One GOP voice: "Pence says he is a conservative but not angry about it which balances a nominee who is angry & not a conservative about it."

What the hell?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #487 on: July 21, 2016, 01:05:44 am »
That's too kind.  Trump paid to play in the Manhattan real estate market at the expense of those playing by the rules.


Manhattan ain't Singapore-which turns buildings every five to ten years.  I live here . There is HUNDREDS of millions of lost tax revenue due to bad land use north of 96th street.  The waste is unbelievable .

Trump cut through the waste.

Better land use would LOWER our taxes .

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #488 on: July 21, 2016, 01:06:19 am »
This guy is really passionate.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #489 on: July 21, 2016, 01:06:47 am »


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #490 on: July 21, 2016, 01:07:05 am »
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Just read Cruz transcript. He will not endorse Trump or even say his name.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #491 on: July 21, 2016, 01:08:11 am »
This guy is really passionate.

Very passionate speaker.  Very convincing .
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #492 on: July 21, 2016, 01:08:20 am »
Joe, normally I'd agree with you, but I just think Trump crossed a line.  I'm not saying Cruz should get up there and act like a jerk...well, we know he wouldn't do that.  But gracious toward Trump, after everything?  No, I'm not for it. 

But that's my opinion and he doesn't listen to me, lol.
I value your opinion, but disagree.

Sure, at some more limbic level of my brain, I'd love to see Cruz come out all claws and teeth and shred that pompous SOB who slandered his way to the nomination.

BUT> For starters, the bots out there would howl that he was whining, a sore loser, couldn't take the heat, poor teddy bare, and a host of other feces thrown at the wall.

The greatest thing Cruz can do to deprive them and Trump of that whole line of argument is to be better than they are.

Move on, to focus on the future and not the past, on the Constitution, on OUR country, and what we need to do to return the Republic to good health, militarily, economically, and socially, and leave Trump out of it. No endorsement, no attack either. Focus on solving problems and by doing so give the new nominee a mark to be gauged by. I think that will be far more impressive and effective in the long run, and deprive the usual suspects of material to rant about.

If they disagree, they expose themselves for what they are, and that places them in a position of either showing their true colors or having to give at least tacit approval to the message, if not Cruz himself.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #493 on: July 21, 2016, 01:09:53 am »

Manhattan ain't Singapore-which turns buildings every five to ten years.  I live here . There is HUNDREDS of millions of lost tax revenue due to bad land use north of 96th street.  The waste is unbelievable .

Trump cut through the waste.

Better land use would LOWER our taxes .

Now, what's a nice guy calling himself LonestarDream doing in a place like Manhattan?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #494 on: July 21, 2016, 01:10:23 am »
Jim Antle ‏@jimantle  39s40 seconds ago
This is like Z. Boone Pickens.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #495 on: July 21, 2016, 01:10:59 am »
To add to your point @CatherineofAragon - determining God's will for our lives is not usually difficult because He has already given us the guide book.  If what we are doing goes against Scripture, then we are not to do it.

That's what I believe about voting for Donald Trump right now.  He is in defiance of God's laws.  He flaunts God's laws.  He is a mocker.

Voting for him is in direct opposition to the words in Scripture, and I cannot do it.

I'm with you on that, musiclady.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #496 on: July 21, 2016, 01:11:07 am »
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Just read Cruz transcript. He will not endorse Trump or even say his name.

YAY!!!

Good for him, but why did he leak this?  Now the media, and especially FNC, will probably cut away from his speech.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #497 on: July 21, 2016, 01:11:30 am »

Has Ted spoke yet?
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #498 on: July 21, 2016, 01:11:46 am »
So what we need is bigger government?

Smaller more efficient government relative to the Gross City Product.

Billions in Gross City product could be unleashed while making government more efficient.   
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #499 on: July 21, 2016, 01:12:22 am »
Nice rags to riches story from this oil baron.

It... uh... "mirrors"... or something... Trump's riches to riches story.
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