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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #425 on: July 21, 2016, 12:04:39 am »
Recall how Ted dealt with that farmer in Iowa who was worried about ethanol subsidies. Ted spent ten minutes patiently laying out the facts.

I remember one of the big ethanol CEO got on board with Cruz because he agreed that subsidies would be more damaging in the long run. Granted he was looking at cutting out some of his competition but he was correct in stating that they wouldn't exist without taxpayers propping them up and weren't really competing on a level field

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #426 on: July 21, 2016, 12:12:41 am »
"Isn't that right, Mrs. Clinton?"

Go Laura!

Too bad Trump is no better.
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« Reply #427 on: July 21, 2016, 12:15:51 am »
Dont I know it.  And yet, Ted will look good for it.

I dont mean fawning like Christie did.

I don't think he would look good doing it.  He'd come across as a doormat who doesn't care that the man ripped his wife and his father.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #428 on: July 21, 2016, 12:18:31 am »
Dick comment by Laura. Why would they do what she asks when she insults them?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #429 on: July 21, 2016, 12:18:52 am »
Mark Kornblau ‏@MarkKornblau  22m22 minutes ago
Art of the Deal ghostwriter Tony Schwartz just told @maddow on @MSNBC that Trump has sent him a cease and desist to stop him from speaking.

I saw this interview.  Trump's lawyers are threatening a lawsuit if Schwartz continues to say that much of  "The Art of the Deal" is lies. 

Can you imagine this meathead with a Justice Department behind him?
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #430 on: July 21, 2016, 12:19:25 am »


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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #431 on: July 21, 2016, 12:20:11 am »
Nice insight.  I'm not sure just what Cruz should say.   He knows he's got a future,  obviously more so if Trump loses.   But he can't just come out against Trump, like a "civilian" like me can.   I think the best approach is to make a serious philosophical defense of conservatism itself.  Let everyone make up their minds about what to do with the information.    But the GOP and the nation really needs, at this point in time,  a serous, concise and convincing apologia for liberty and opportunity-centric government.  Like Reagan did back in the sixties.   

Let Cruz hit a pitch in his wheelhouse and shine a light on what Our Side favors,  Trump or no Trump.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #432 on: July 21, 2016, 12:20:40 am »
Man, Laura's sure earning her kneepads tonight...

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #433 on: July 21, 2016, 12:24:23 am »
Does Laura really think Trump is going to send any lobbyists packing?  How's he going to do that without shrinking government, Laura?  He wouldn't even stand up to ethanol lobbyists in Iowa. 
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #434 on: July 21, 2016, 12:25:09 am »
Day-um

Mark Levin BLASTS ‘loser’ and ‘failure’ Chris Christie - See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/mark-levin-blasts-loser-and-failure-chris-christie#sthash.HMOndwZC.dpuf


https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/mark-levin-blasts-loser-and-failure-chris-christie

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #435 on: July 21, 2016, 12:26:11 am »
Can't wait to hear Sen Cruz. I really don't care about tomorrow.

I think Sen Cruz will run in 2020 and will win. After 4 yrs of corrupt hillary, or pathological liar trump, the country will be ready for a serious, mature, intelligent leader. Lord knows we haven't had one for a long time.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #436 on: July 21, 2016, 12:26:20 am »
Neither candidate will [likely] rape our children.

What my husband tells me is, he would rather vote for a clown than have the Antichrist in office. Not everyone sees her as such, but for me, I think the devil is in the details. With a crappy candidate on the [R] side, Satan sees his [evil] queen rise to the top.
She might be the Whore of Babylon, but the Antichrist is a man (the number of whom is 666).
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #437 on: July 21, 2016, 12:26:35 am »
Dick comment by Laura. Why would they do what she asks when she insults them?

I thought so. A talker demanding that Cruz endorse?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #438 on: July 21, 2016, 12:26:42 am »
Does Laura really think Trump is going to send any lobbyists packing?

Trump is going to do exactly what Obama did to keep the lobbyists out of DC, give them jobs in the administration.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #439 on: July 21, 2016, 12:27:47 am »
Man, Laura's sure earning her kneepads tonight...

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #440 on: July 21, 2016, 12:29:07 am »
Man, Laura's sure earning her kneepads tonight...

She is angling for a job in Roman's administration. Should Trump happen to get elected, there are going to be a lot of pissed sycophants when they find out the same job was promised to a half a dozen people...
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #441 on: July 21, 2016, 12:29:54 am »
That speaker was boring.

Pam Bondi up.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #442 on: July 21, 2016, 12:30:07 am »
Ramesh Ponnuru
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Ingraham now claiming that opposition to Trump is about "wounded feelings and bruised egos," takes shot at Cruz

We don't need a talk radio administration.  I can't believe though that Hannity didn't get a speaking slot seeing as how he's turned his show over to Trump for the last year.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #443 on: July 21, 2016, 12:30:58 am »
Mlizzy, I will ditto the sentiment that you have my utmost respect and I read all your posts. I just can't keep my fingers from typing the following:

trump is so much closer to the description of the antichrist than Hillary. trump who gets Christian leaders across the land to endorse him and Christian voters to vote for him and yet it so plain to for all to see and almost entirely documented.. how evil this man is.  Can you imagine someone being asked about their faith and responding to the effect that Christianity was important because it got him nominated. Hillary is no antichrist as she is a known evil and has been viewed as evil by Christians for a long time. But, for trump too many Christians will accept anything he does as acceptable and many of the Christian leadership will forsake ......I better stop here. 

But, I will again say trump is more fitting of the title of antichrist, the great deceiver, the con man, who has lead many down a path they never ever would have gone before.

@cuky @ratpatrol ~ I should have put "an Antichrist" instead of "the Antichrist" in my copy. I am sorry! We do not believe that Hillary is THEE Antichrist, but we feel she is definitely working for the devil. Trump did pick an OK VP, something Hillary will not do. That was when my husband agreed to vote for him.

And then there's the influence of "Caroline" (my neighbor of 61 years) and "Aunt Patty," both ultra-right (holy!) ladies (in their 80s and 90s respectively), who both, when asked recently if they'd vote for Trump [even though they don't like him], said, "Yes, we must keep Hillary out of the White House!" Like you said, Hillary is "long time" evil, and the older gals [and guys] can never forget that.

But I understand your viewpoint completely. This is not a good time in America.  :0001:
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #444 on: July 21, 2016, 12:33:40 am »
Trump is going to do exactly what Obama did to keep the lobbyists out of DC, give them jobs in the administration.

Laura sounded quite delusional when it comes to Trump.  I guess that's why I don't listen to her show.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #445 on: July 21, 2016, 12:35:15 am »
It'll be too late to do anything about it then
Who was the 'pubbie who bailed out of the Senate Race that ended up with Barrack Obama getting the seat. I recall Allan Keyes stepped up at the last minute to replace him, but the damage was done, and Keyes (fine man, I have met him) lost.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #446 on: July 21, 2016, 12:35:31 am »
Agree with Bondi's content but delivery is a bit harsh.

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #447 on: July 21, 2016, 12:35:48 am »
Pam Bondi...didn't she try to railroad George Zimmerman, and she's acting like a 2 amendment supporter?

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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #448 on: July 21, 2016, 12:37:36 am »
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/execution-rescheduled-to-accommodate-pam-bondi-fundraiser/2140891

Execution rescheduled to accommodate Pam Bondi fundraiser

Adam C. SmithAdam C. Smith, Times Political Editor

Monday, September 9, 2013 7:21pm


There is no graver responsibility and act of state government than an execution.


In Florida this week, a campaign fundraiser takes precedence.

Attorney General Pam Bondi persuaded Gov. Rick Scott to postpone an execution scheduled for tonight because it conflicted with her re-election kick-off reception.

"What's going on down there? It's ridiculous," said Phyllis Novick, the Ohio mother of one of Marshall Lee Gore's victims, when told Monday about the reason for the delay.

Gore, 50, raped, strangled and stabbed 30-year-old Robyn Novick in 1988 before dumping her body into a Miami-Dade County trash heap. Gore was also sentenced to die for the slaying of 19-year-old Susan Roark, whose body was found a few months later in Columbia County.

Gore was initially scheduled for execution in June, but the date was twice delayed because of legal skirmishes over Gore's sanity.

After Scott last month rescheduled the execution for Sept. 10, the date of Bondi's "hometown campaign kickoff" at her South Tampa home, Bondi's office asked that it be postponed. The new date is Oct. 1.

Scott said Monday that he did not know the reason for the request, and he declined to answer when asked whether he considers a campaign fundraiser an appropriate reason to reschedule an execution.

"When another Cabinet officer asks for something, we try to work with them," Scott said.

On Monday, Bondi responded to questions with a statement saying she had made a mistake.

"As a prosecutor, there was nothing more important than seeing justice done, especially when it came to the unconscionable act of murder. I personally put two people on death row and, as Attorney General, have already participated in eight executions since I took office, a role I take very seriously," Bondi said.

"The planned execution of Marshall Lee Gore had already been stayed twice by the courts, and we absolutely should not have requested that the date of the execution be moved," said Bondi, who has long championed victims' rights.

Shortly before a scheduled execution, the Florida attorney general typically phones the governor to inform him there is no legal basis for delay. Since Bondi and Scott began their first terms in 2011, eight executions have been carried out.

Gore's attorney, Ted Scher, said he had asked the governor's office for more information about why the execution was postponed, but the governor's staff would say only that it was at the request of the attorney general. That it turned out to be because of a campaign event came as a surprise.

"It's very unusual," Scher said. "It's particularly unusual given the attorney general's position in these cases that all we (defense lawyers) do is delay these executions," Scher said.

Bondi is fighting legal challenges to the 2013 "Timely Justice Act" aimed at speeding up executions in Florida.

"Wherever one stands on the death penalty, there isn't anyone in America that believes an execution should be postponed for political fundraising," said David Donnelly, executive director of Public Campaign Action Fund. "That Pam Bondi requested a delay in this execution shows how the nonstop chase for campaign cash has hollowed out the morality of our political system. Her moral compass is broken."

The delay keeps Gore on death row an extra 21 days at a cost that the Department of Corrections estimates at about $1,000.

The Republican attorney general faces no serious challenger so far, and organizers expect her campaign kick-off event to attract 100 to 200 people. Among those hosting the event: Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn, a Democrat; House Speaker Will Weatherford, R-Wesley Chapel; and state Sens. Jack Latvala, R-Clearwater, Bill Galvano, R- Bradenton, Tom Lee, R-Brandon, Wilton Simpson, R- Trilby, and Jeff Brandes, R-St. Petersburg.

The governor won't be there because he made other plans once the execution dropped off his Tuesday schedule.

He will be at a reception in Broward County raising money for his re-election campaign.
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Re: OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
« Reply #449 on: July 21, 2016, 12:38:27 am »
Trump is going to do exactly what Obama did to keep the lobbyists out of DC, give them jobs in the administration.

Trump is the guy who created his own anti gambling PAC in New York to prevent competition to his New Jersey casinos. He doesn't oppose PACs and lobbyists he hires them to do his dirty work. He has been the guy paying the lobbyists to influence lawmakers. All of this now is just truthful hyperbole.