ALTERNATE LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - MONDAY, JULY 18

[LonestarDream]

If Trump had 100,000 million billion zillion dollars, I wouldn't be with him.  Can't stand to look at him or hear him.  If he is president, I still won't look at or hear him.  He must lose.

Kudos to you.  Not many people can resist marrying for money.   

[bolobaby]

- Well spoken
- Poised
- Eastern European hard work and values
- Father taught her business
- Trump wants to give back
- Trump good to his employees ( I know, there are counter examples)
- Mother taught her love of modeling
- Trump a winner , does not give up
- Has been with Trump 18 years , good man.
- Melania knows America is special because she grew up under communism

I'm sorry. Help me out. Which one of those points are actually related to anything important in the conservative platform? (Aside from "hard work," but that's not really a policy position, is it?)

In other words, was there anything in her speech that you might not have heard at a democratic convention?

[Silver Pines]

Spielberg vs Hitchcock


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wYtG7aQTHA

LOL

I'm giving the win to Alfred.

[Wingnut]

As expected, failure to gush over Melania proves jealousy.  Predictable.

Okay, I admit it!  I'm dying for my own fat, flabby, turkey-necked lizard with a lamprey's mouth!  What woman wouldn't be?

Not only Women...more than a few men are pining for the old sot.

[Silver Pines]

Agree in prayer for full recovery.

Thank you so much.

[Sanguine]

Kudos to you.  Not many people can resist marrying for money.

I've been able to so far!

 

[Silver Pines]

If Trump had 100,000 million billion zillion dollars, I wouldn't be with him.  Can't stand to look at him or hear him.  If he is president, I still won't look at or hear him.  He must lose.

He's repellent.  I've always thought so and I don't apologize for it.

[LonestarDream]

I'm sorry. Help me out. Which one of those points are actually related to anything important in the conservative platform? (Aside from "hard work," but that's not really a policy position, is it?)

In other words, was there anything in her speech that you might not have heard at a democratic convention?

None of that will be touched at dem convention.  Trying to give honest assessment as a Trump realist.  ( both pro and con).  Not possible on the other thread . 

[Silver Pines]

So? Is that the only threat it took?

Geez. Remember this?



Where are the men of principle?

"Ohhhh, nooooooo! Don't take away our first in the nation status! We'll do annnnnythiiiing!"

Cowards.

I'm seeing claims of a lot more threats...

[HonestJohn]

LOL

I'm giving the win to Alfred.

I liked Kubrick.  Thought Bay was channeling Trump.

[Silver Pines]

Kudos to you.  Not many people can resist marrying for money.

@Victoria33

Actually, they can.

[LonestarDream]

@Victoria33

Actually, they can.

Usually it is disguised as a 'good provider' or 'someone established'.   And not explicitly stated as 'money' 

[Silver Pines]

Usually it is disguised as a 'good provider' or 'someone established'.   And not explicitly stated as 'money'

I prefer not to deal in word games and disguises.  It is what it is.

[aligncare]

Usually it is disguised as a 'good provider' or 'someone established'.   And not explicitly stated as 'money'

I think I'm beginning to get you.

You're the FOXNews of TBR blog, fair and balanced. You report, We decide...translation: Blah blah blah, We dig in our heels.

After all, this is politics.

[LonestarDream]

I think I'm beginning to get you.

You're the FOXNews of TBR blog, fair and balanced. You report, We decide...translation: Blah blah blah, We dig in our heels.

After all, this is politics.

Voting for Trump, but also want to understand  what various demographics think.  Cant even give Melania a complement on the other thread unless it is completely fawning.

[Silver Pines]

@LonestarDream

Oops....was reading Shapiro's twitter and ran across this:

John McCormack ‏@McCormackJohn  15m15 minutes ago
Aside from the plagiarism, Melania's speech wasn't terrible if you pretend her marriage to Donald J. Trump isn't absurd.

Melania's RNC bio claims she graduated college, but she's actually a drop-out:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-melania-trump-biography-225781

It appears Melania's speech might have been plagiarized from one given by Michelle Obama:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/melania-trumps-speech-appears-to-have-plagiarized-from-miche?utm_term=.hhmQaJxgXQ#.iolr0Nzgyr



Melania Trump said in her speech Monday:

From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise. That you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily life. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son, and we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

Michelle Obama’s convention speech in 2008 hit on many of the same themes:

And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them.
And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

[Hoodat]

God, Flynn was awful.

Got a Trump supporter telling me how awesome Flynn's speech was.  I swear these people act just like Democrats.

[Ghost Bear]

Got a Trump supporter telling me how awesome Flynn's speech was.  I swear these people act just like Democrats.

Similar mindset: moral relativists, the ends justify the means, etc.

They just think they can manage government better than the Democrats can.

[aligncare]

Voting for Trump, but also want to understand  what various demographics think.  Cant even give Melania a complement on the other thread unless it is completely fawning.

You're exaggerating. Critical commentary is different from vile attacks. Most neutral observers recognize the difference. I've never objected to criticism of Trump, I've got my own criticisms. But, going overboard and impugning his supporters is where I draw the line.

[Wingnut]

@LonestarDream

It appears Melania's speech might have been plagiarized from one given by Michelle Obama:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/melania-trumps-speech-appears-to-have-plagiarized-from-miche?utm_term=.hhmQaJxgXQ#.iolr0Nzgyr



Melania Trump said in her speech Monday:

From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise. That you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily life. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son, and we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

Michelle Obama’s convention speech in 2008 hit on many of the same themes:

And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them.
And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

Oh my.  That is going to leave a mark.   

[Chosen Daughter]

Thank you so much.

Hugs

[Wingnut]

Hugs

[RoosGirl]

@LonestarDream

Oops....was reading Shapiro's twitter and ran across this:

John McCormack ‏@McCormackJohn  15m15 minutes ago
Aside from the plagiarism, Melania's speech wasn't terrible if you pretend her marriage to Donald J. Trump isn't absurd.

Melania's RNC bio claims she graduated college, but she's actually a drop-out:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-melania-trump-biography-225781

It appears Melania's speech might have been plagiarized from one given by Michelle Obama:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/melania-trumps-speech-appears-to-have-plagiarized-from-miche?utm_term=.hhmQaJxgXQ#.iolr0Nzgyr



Melania Trump said in her speech Monday:

From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise. That you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily life. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son, and we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

Michelle Obama’s convention speech in 2008 hit on many of the same themes:

And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them.
And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

I am so laughing at this.  The scenarios of how this came about, the chips that had to fall exactly in to place for  this to happen.  Trump campaign hired the same person that wrote the radical  leftist soon to be first lady's speech?  Trump campaign hired someone that hates him?  The "conservative republican" has plagiarized the radical leftists speech.  Now that right there is funny.

[aligncare]

Oh my.  That is going to leave a mark.

Oh, please. Like all of the other never Trump predictions of doom and damage that never materialized. 

[RoosGirl]

Yes, like all of the other never Trump predictions of doom and damage that never came to pass.

No need for making a mark.  What's a little plagiarism between buddies, right? 

I'm sure Melania did not write her own speech, no one would write their own speech and think they can get away with plagiarizing a high profile speech like that.  Think about the possible scenarios for how  this came to be though. Really, this is a screw up, just no Melania's screw up, unless she's the  one that hired that person to write the speech for her, but I doubt that.  I'm betting they just didn't do enough vetting to figure out that the person(s) they hired to write the speech hated them.  So much for hiring the best people, amiright?!