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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2016, 01:24:36 pm »
You read it wrong. Those issues even if taken at full spin value prove hes anti Politically Correct. Both of those are victim classes of people who most Americans are getting sick of being afraid to offend. 


Disabled people are a victim class most Americans are getting sick of being afraid to offend?

What "America" do you live in?
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2016, 01:25:33 pm »
To clarify.Since voting 3rd party will not defeat him are are you supporting voting for Hillary to defeat Trump?

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 01:28:31 pm »
Disabled people are a victim class most Americans are getting sick of being afraid to offend?

What "America" do you live in?
The ones who had their businesses closed by the scum sucking lawyers suing everybody they could for minor infraction of the ADA for one. Glad to see you support Political Correctness.

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2016, 01:31:37 pm »
You read it wrong. Those issues even if taken at full spin value prove hes anti Politically Correct. Both of those are victim classes of people who most Americans are getting sick of being afraid to offend.
You are really a despicable human being if you think talking like that is OK in ANY circumstance.
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2016, 01:32:49 pm »
The ones who had their businesses closed by the scum sucking lawyers suing everybody they could for minor infraction of the ADA for one. Glad to see you support Political Correctness.

Identity Politics is not what Conservatives support.
Consider some disabled people got that way from IEDs or other devices not normally encountered in civilian life.

Scum sucking lawyers appear to be the ones who should be the target of your vitriol, not someone who may have been disabled in the service of our country. You are the one supporting identity politics, you just put anti- in front of it and hold groups of people up as an enemy instead of friends.

Be careful with that tactic. It can come back around to haunt you.
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2016, 01:36:10 pm »
More to the point, what does that make the rest of us?  I submit that we cannot merely withhold our votes from Donald Trump, but to actively work and vote to defeat him.   This is no time for conscientious objection.  We must stand up to fascism and defeat it, no matter the short-term cost.  

The whole world is watching.

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2016, 01:37:37 pm »
I have resided myself to the fact that Trump will be the nominee at the Convention and that there will be no contention. Hope for a better nominee riding in on his white horse is lost.    Will I vote for him in November?  Very unlikely, instead relying on my conscience to lead me, probably a right-in.    But living out here in the Pacific NW, no election waits to see how WA votes, its long over before our polls close, and this state regardless of how I feel about Trump is a Hillary State who will get 56%, the same numbers Obama got.
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2016, 01:38:14 pm »
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You read it wrong.


Naturally, lol.  If it reflects negatively on Trump, it can't be right.

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Those issues even if taken at full spin value prove hes anti Politically Correct. Both of those are victim classes of people who most Americans are getting sick of being afraid to offend. 

Firstly, taking the side of crossdressers who want to be able to use women's restrooms is the ultimate politically correct stance to take. 

Secondly, as incredible as it might be, you are actually saying that refraining from mocking handicapped/disabled people is PC and playing into their "victimhood" status.

Ergo, making fun of them as Trump did was admirably non-PC.

Let me make myself clear to you.  Your post confirmed for me more than any other single post I've seen that I'm doing the right thing by refusing to support your piece of filth candidate.   He's a perfect fit for you, though.




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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2016, 01:38:55 pm »
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This guy needs to go!

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Say what? Go? I bet he knows where the can is.
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2016, 01:39:11 pm »
I have resided myself to the fact that Trump will be the nominee at the Convention and that there will be no contention. Hope for a better nominee riding in on his white horse is lost.    Will I vote for him in November?  Very unlikely, instead relying on my conscience to lead me, probably a right-in.    But living out here in the Pacific NW, no election waits to see how WA votes, its long over before our polls close, and this state regardless of how I feel about Trump is a Hillary State who will get 56%, the same numbers Obama got.
If Trump wins, I just hope he matures, and that Pence can have a deep impact on how he governs. Don’t bring shame onto the Party of Lincoln and Reagan Donald Trump.

The best I can do now, is to just pray for America and for His protection over life and property at both of these Conventions, as we are living in extremely dangerous times.

Trump will never change.  If he hasn't matured by the age of seventy, he's a lost cause.

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2016, 01:40:18 pm »
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This guy needs to go!

YESTERDAY!

Then ban me too.  This site is not a Trump site, DC.  It's also not a GOP site.

Advocating against Trump has been going on for months, or hadn't you noticed?
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2016, 01:43:35 pm »
Trump will never change.  If he hasn't matured by the age of seventy, he's a lost cause.

Trump cares about one thing and one thing only!  That thing is Donald J. Trump!  He got into this in order to ensure that the Clinton/Soros crime syndicate, of which he is a part, remains protected by the federal government whichever way the election goes in November!
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2016, 01:47:26 pm »
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No, but you just nominated someone who has, moron

 
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2016, 01:48:33 pm »
Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  10m10 minutes ago

No, but you just nominated someone who has, moron

 
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« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2016, 01:49:39 pm »
Trump cares about one thing and one thing only!  That thing is Donald J. Trump!  He got into this in order to ensure that the Clinton/Soros crime syndicate, of which he is a part, remains protected by the federal government whichever way the election goes in November!

His entire life has been about nothing but self-aggrandizement to feed his bloated ego.  Sometimes I feel almost sorry (almost!) for some of his supporters when I see the naivete and gullibility with which they've bought into his con.

Then I think, no, they did so willingly.

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2016, 01:50:11 pm »
LOL!  So it's not just us.

LOL, the meme has gone out.
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2016, 01:50:29 pm »
More to the point, what does that make the rest of us?   I submit that we cannot merely withhold our votes from Donald Trump, but to actively work and vote to defeat him.   This is no time for conscientious objection.  We must stand up to fascism and defeat it, no matter the short-term cost.   

The whole world is watching.

Yep.

The GOP as a party is already tarred with Trump and his actions, not just because the GOP officials and the majority of their lawmakers have supported him, but because a large plurality of GOP voters have voted for him.

This... despite (or perhaps, because of) frank acknowledgement of said officials, lawmakers, and voters of Trump's dog-whistles to his 'alt-right' supporters as well as his authoritarian ways.

And that must be stopped at all costs.  Not just Trump, but his sick worldview.  A worldview that we and our allies fought a bitter war to defeat 60-odd years ago.

And not just to defeat that worldview, but to end the notion that we must betray everything we hold to be right and true for power.
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2016, 01:50:36 pm »
Then ban me too.  This site is not a Trump site, DC.  It's also not a GOP site.

Advocating against Trump has been going on for months, or hadn't you noticed?

It's no longer a "GOP site" because one of the owners isn't fond of Donald Trump.  The site used to be called The GOPBRIEFING ROOM

Nobody here ever had a discussion/thread or notice given them that were were now a "conservative" site and no longer associated or affiliated with the Republican Party.

The suggestion it is not a GOP-related site appeared one evening in a thread where a #nevertrump pack was getting their a$$ handed to them.

It's bogus.   It's sour grapes.

And it's so wrong.
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2016, 01:52:24 pm »
I think this is somewhat "over the top."  Trump may not be the best standard-bearer but he is not worse than Hitlery, and he is not likely to be a fascist. 

Personally I think the NeverTrump position is too extreme.  Maybe we can have a MaybeTrump movement and do what we can to shape his agenda before we decide how to vote.

Serious, take a look at his statements and proposals he's made this election cycle and ask yourself how he'll make them come true.

Then ask yourself if what you wrote is still applicable.

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2016, 01:53:28 pm »
It's no longer a "GOP site" because one of the owners isn't fond of Donald Trump.  The site used to be called The GOPBRIEFING ROOM

Nobody here ever had a discussion/thread or notice given them that were were now a "conservative" site and no longer associated or affiliated with the Republican Party.

The suggestion it is not a GOP-related site appeared one evening in a thread where a #nevertrump pack was getting their a$$ handed to them.

It's bogus.   It's sour grapes.

And it's so wrong.

WRONG!  I have seen that explained here several times already and so have YOU!
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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2016, 01:53:30 pm »
Then ban me too.  This site is not a Trump site, DC.  It's also not a GOP site.

Advocating against Trump has been going on for months, or hadn't you noticed?


Don't be cute.

It's over, pal.

I won.  You lost.   

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Re: #NeverTrump Delegate Rebels ‘Defeated’ at the RNC Rules Committee
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2016, 01:54:34 pm »
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No, but you just nominated someone who has, moron

 
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« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2016, 01:55:37 pm »

I have used more  than one facility like that over the years, some even has that slight list. Made of wood, stone, and steel (respectively), and in temperatures from 100 above to 40 below. Never had to call a plumber because the thing stopped up, even once.
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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2016, 01:57:56 pm »

Don't be cute.

It's over, pal.

I won.  You lost.   

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