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SOURCE: YAHOO NEWS VIA ASSOCIATED PRESS

URL: https://www.yahoo.com/news/castile-told-officer-gun-key-part-final-moments-055407202.html?ref=gs



MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The final moments before Philando Castile was killed by a police officer during a traffic stop in suburban St. Paul revolved around a gun he was licensed to carry, trained to use safely and instructed to tell authorities about when stopped.

But just how he informed the officer — and whether the officer followed his own training — gets to the heart of the investigation into Castile's death last week.

Castile, who was black, was fatally shot July 6 after he was pulled over by St. Anthony police officer Jeronimo Yanez, who is Latino. Castile's girlfriend streamed the aftermath live on Facebook and said Castile was shot while reaching for his ID after telling the officer he had a gun permit and was armed.

Yanez's attorney has said the officer reacted after seeing a gun, and that one of the reasons he pulled Castile over was because he thought he looked like a "possible match" for an armed robbery suspect. Castile's family says he was profiled because of his race. They were among more than 1,500 mourners who filled the Cathedral of Saint Paul for his funeral Thursday.

A letter from the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office confirms Castile, 32, got his permit last year. The letter, dated June 4, 2015, says Castile's permit is enclosed. It also says that he must have his permit card and photo identification when carrying a pistol, and must display those items "upon lawful demand by a peace officer."

Allysza Castile said she and her brother took a required gun safety class together last year.

Dan Wellman, owner of Total Defense in Ramsey, confirmed the Castiles came to class in May 2015. Wellman doesn't remember the pair. He said he wasn't teaching the class that day.

But each class is told repeatedly how to handle a traffic stop or any encounter with law enforcement, he said. Students are taught to comply with every demand, hand over their permits to carry with their driver's licenses and calmly answer follow-up questions about licensed firearms, including where they are.

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Documents provided by the St. Anthony Police Department also show Yanez attended a training seminar in 2014 called "Bulletproof Warrior," a two-day course hosted by an Illinois company that teaches students how to "utilize their 'Warrior Spirit' in a practical way so they can WIN hostile confrontations on the street," according to promotional materials for the seminar.

Yanez also received two hours of de-escalation training this spring — the only record of such training since he joined the force in late 2011. His attorney and the St. Anthony police chief did not return messages for comment Wednesday.

Court and driver records show Castile was pulled over or ticketed at least 52 times in Minnesota since 2002, with 86 total misdemeanor or petty misdemeanor counts. More than half of the 86 violations were dismissed, court records show. He had no serious criminal record.

He was stopped at least two times since he received his permit to carry. Records do not indicate whether he had his gun with him on those stops.

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Castile was likely going for his ID (he knew he'd get blasted if he produced his gun), the cop saw the gun, got spooked and shot him, multiple times.

Prediction:  The cop will be no-billed by a grand jury and it will be a damned shame. 
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Castile was likely going for his ID (he knew he'd get blasted if he produced his gun), the cop saw the gun, got spooked and shot him, multiple times.

Prediction:  The cop will be no-billed by a grand jury and it will be a damned shame.

Not sure, this cop's fiery Latino temperament was on display, he also said initially the suspect had a "broad-nose"; very stereotypical. The individual himself may well be found at fault here. Then, there will be the civil suit.

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Not sure, this cop's fiery Latino temperament was on display, he also said initially the suspect had a "broad-nose"; very stereotypical. The individual himself may well be found at fault here. Then, there will be the civil suit.

Some cops are just lazy:

Atlanta cop who killed unarmed driver opened fire on car without knowing if suspect was inside: ‘He had no idea who was in the vehicle’

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/atlanta-killed-driver-no-idea-car-article-1.2711661?cid=bitly
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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About 15 years ago, every time I went out in a span of a few years, after 10 or 11 PM, I'd get stopped.

Nowadays, I'm largely never out late and if I am, I try to stay off the main roads.

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     Documents provided by the St. Anthony Police Department also show Yanez attended a training seminar in 2014 called "Bulletproof Warrior," a two-day course hosted by an Illinois company that teaches students how to "utilize their 'Warrior Spirit' in a practical way so they can WIN hostile confrontations on the street," according to promotional materials for the seminar.           
Sounds like banana republic bull shit  Time to sue the heck out this company
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While it looks like the cop overreacted, I'll still wait for more info to emerge.
 But here's the sad situation. Because blacks commit so much violent crime, it's guaranteed there will be many more violent confrontations per capita between between blacks and cops.
It's not just a weird coincidence that they had the St. Paul incident and the one in Baton Rouge almost simultaneously. There are just too many of those kinds of incidences that happen every day between cops and blacks.
 But remember twice as many whites are shot and killed by cops than blacks. And most whites know enough not to try and provoke the police. But the police also know non-blacks are far less likely to react adversely to being stopped.
So naturally cops are automatically on edge expecting the worst when they stop a black driver. And this guy resembled a perp in a recent robbery.
 This certianly won't be the last incident of this sort.  You can  blame the cop for possibly overreacting, but until the black violent crime rate goes way down, these incidents will occur on a regular basis.