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U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« on: July 11, 2016, 02:19:12 pm »
SOURCE: New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/world/middleeast/us-iraq-mosul.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT


BAGHDAD — President Obama will deploy 560 troops to Iraq to help retake Mosul, the largest city controlled by the Islamic State, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter announced on Monday. It is the latest escalation of the United States’ role in the war here by Mr. Obama, who ran for office on a pledge to end America’s involvement in the conflict.

The additional troops will bring the official number of American service members deployed in Iraq to 4,647. Many will be based at an airfield about 40 miles south of Mosul that was seized by the Iraqis on Saturday.

“This contingent will help the Iraqis with a logistical springboard for their offensive in Mosul,” Mr. Carter said.

American commanders plan to use the base, Qayyarah West Airfield, as a staging area to provide logistical support to Iraqi forces as they move toward Mosul. Some of the troops specialize in infrastructure support like building bridges, which the Iraqis will need for the assault on Mosul because the Islamic State has destroyed many around the city. The Islamic State seized Mosul in June 2014.

Mr. Carter made the announcement while addressing troops at the international airport in Baghdad. Earlier in the day, Mr. Carter met with Iraq’s prime minister, Haider al-Abadi.

“The point of seizing that airfield is to be able to establish a logistics and air hub in the immediate vicinity of Mosul under the control of the Iraqi security forces,” Mr. Carter said. Makhmour, a base in northern Iraq that the Iraqi military retook several months ago, will also be used as a staging ground for the assault on Mosul, he said.

The escalation by Mr. Obama comes two months after he decided to send American military advisers closer to the front lines of the conflict, allowing them to work with smaller units of Iraqi forces. As part of that announcement, Mr. Obama deployed an additional 217 troops to Iraq.

The Iraqi Army has been troubled by equipment, logistics and other problems, and it was stretched last month as it fought to retake the western city of Falluja from the Islamic State.

Although the official number of United States troops will rise to 4,647, that figure understates the actual number of service members in Iraq.

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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 02:41:43 am »
What's in it for us this time?   :pondering:
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 02:45:54 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 12, 2016, 02:41:43 am
What's in it for us this time?   :pondering:

The pushback of ISIS.  Trump would rather the Russians do it, but Putin's gang is nowhere to be found in Iraq.  He's protecting his boy Assad's ass.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 03:04:06 am »
560 troops is barely a battalion. It's like a pin pr*ck on the butt of an elephant!
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 06:35:03 pm »
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 06:48:14 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 12, 2016, 02:41:43 am
What's in it for us this time?   :pondering:

Not actually "winning" but being able to claim we tried, again.

Neither we or our allies, are willing to do what is necessary to really win. That would required large numbers of civilian dead, and we don't have the stomach for that.

Permanent low level conflict is okay. Actually winning decisively not so much. We accept having our soldiers limbs blown off, and be ambushed by those they are trying to protect.

The US has not decisively won a major conflict since WWII. Instead we settle for divided Korea, divided Vietnam, repeated return calls to Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

All for want of political will to do what winning entails. In two months, it will be 15 years since 9/11/2001. Every life and every year since, has been for nothing.

You would think we would learn. Yet we invite the muslims to come here, instead of shutting the door on them.

 
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 06:53:20 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 12, 2016, 06:48:14 pm
The US has not decisively won a major conflict since WWII.

Not that old thing again.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2016, 10:25:18 pm »
Quote from: geronl on July 12, 2016, 06:53:20 pm
Not that old thing again.

No substantive remarks I notice.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2016, 10:36:18 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 12, 2016, 10:25:18 pm
No substantive remarks I notice.

That claim has been totally debunked numerous times. I'm not going to waste my time on such distractions
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2016, 10:37:51 pm »
Quote from: geronl on July 12, 2016, 06:53:20 pm
Not that old thing again.
Anyone that says that owes Norman Schwarzkopf an apology.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2016, 10:54:32 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on July 12, 2016, 10:37:51 pm
Anyone that says that owes Norman Schwarzkopf an apology.

exactly.

Panama, Grenada and a lot of other military operations did what they were sent to do.

and Vietnam was not a military defeat, it was a political one.

Korea was a victory for all intents and purposes.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2016, 01:02:32 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 12, 2016, 02:41:43 am
What's in it for us this time?   :pondering:
There is nothing in it for us, only more weeping parents, wives, husbands and children. Only obama will gain happiness at their sacrifice, how interesting that this piece of excrement, so against the war, is so ready to sacrifice American soldiers.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2016, 01:41:32 am »
This will do nothing at all, except to get more American soldiers killed and maimed.

560 troops is a ridiculous number to send into Iraq. They will be nothing but targets for ISIS, Iran, Iraqis, and anyone else who wants to shoot at them. The Muslims over there get bonus points with Allah every time they manage to kill an American.

If this were a serious 'real' effort, 56,000 troops would deploy. Or 560,000 troops would deploy, if there was even the slightest interest in getting this whole thing done and over with for good.

But, there is no such interest. All the powers that be want to do is to maintain the status quo, with no winner, and no loser, indefinitely without end. This deployment number proves that statement more than any blogger or any speaker ever could. They are showing us with their actions what they want. And it is not victory. If that is what they really wanted, they could do it in 10 days.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2016, 01:51:03 am »
I think this is a perfect opportunity for all those transgendered troops (that Ash Carter and Barry Hussein assure us really do exist) to show us what they're made of, so to speak, and go to Iraq to fight the battle of Mosul.
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Re: U.S. Will Deploy 560 Troops to Iraq to Help Retake Mosul From ISIS
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2016, 03:22:23 am »
Looks like the Syrian Human Rights Observatory webpages are non-functioning, undoubtedly, they get hacked or people even try to shut them down; but here are some pictures, from Syria not Iraq. Same war.



Coalition warplanes over Syria:


https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe

Maybe this is a better way to keep up anyway, through Facebook.
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