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Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« on: July 09, 2016, 12:45:09 pm »
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/stopped-52-times-police-racial-profiling-064052839.html?nhp=1

Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?

Carla K. Johnson And Steve Karnowski, The Associated Press
The Canadian PressJuly 9, 2016

MINNEAPOLIS - When Philando Castile saw the flashing lights in his rearview mirror, it wasn't unusual. He had been pulled over at least 52 times in recent years in and around the Twin Cities and given citations for minor offences including speeding, driving without a muffler and not wearing a seat belt.

He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.

Was Castile an especially bad driver or just unlucky? Or was he targeted by officers who single out black motorists like him for such stops, as several of his family members have alleged?

The answer may never be known, but Castile's stop for a broken tail light Wednesday ended with him fatally shot by a suburban St. Paul police officer and his girlfriend livestreaming the chilling aftermath. The shooting has added a new impetus to a national debate on racial profiling.

"The video is pretty horrific," said Gavin Kearney, who in 2003 co-authored a report to the Minnesota Legislature on racial profiling in the state. "There are things we don't know about it. But we know there are certain assumptions and biases — whether explicit or implicit — about black men that affect how police officers interpret their actions. And we know white drivers are less likely to be pulled over."

Court records dating to 2002 show Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria supervisor, averaged more than three traffic stops per year and received citations for misdemeanours or petty misdemeanours.

Many charges were dismissed, but Castile pleaded guilty to some, mostly for driving after his license was revoked and driving with no proof of insurance. However, those two charges also were the most frequently dismissed, along with failing to wear a seat belt.

The records show no convictions for more serious crimes.

No recent information is available on the racial breakdown of drivers stopped or ticketed by police in Falcon Heights, the mostly white suburb where the shooting occurred, or in other Minnesota towns. Minnesota is not among the handful of states that require police to keep such data.

But in 2001, the Legislature asked for a racial profiling study and it fell to Kearney, then at the Institute on Race & Poverty at the University of Minnesota Law School, to conduct it. His study, using information supplied voluntarily by 65 law enforcement jurisdictions in the state, found a strong likelihood that racial and ethnic bias played a role in traffic stop policies and practices. Overall, officers stopped minority drivers at greater rates than whites and searched them at greater rates, but found contraband in those searches at lower rates than whites.

The analysis found the pattern was more pronounced in suburban areas. In Fridley, New Hope, Plymouth, Sauk Rapids and Savage combined, blacks were stopped about 310 per cent more often than expected.

The St. Anthony Police Department, which employs the officer who shot Castile, did not participate in the study. St. Anthony officials have not commented on Castile's stop since shortly after the shooting.

It was not immediately clear how much money governments in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area generate from traffic violations. A U.S. Department of Justice investigation following the 2014 police shooting death of Michael Brown, a black, unarmed 18-year-old, in Ferguson, Missouri, found law enforcement efforts were focused on generating revenue for that city. Most of the tickets and fines were going to blacks.

Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, a passenger in the car, said the two officers who stopped them said the vehicle had a broken tail light. She said one of the officers shot him "for no apparent reason" after he reached for his ID.

Valerie Castile said she thinks her son "was just black in the wrong place." Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton said he did not believe it would have happened to a white motorist.

The officers' races are not known.

"Police understand the concerns about choices made about who gets stopped and what happens when they get stopped," said Darrel Stephens, executive director of the Major Cities Chiefs Association.

But the statistics can't simply be attributed to racial bias among police.
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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2016, 01:11:36 pm »
One morning I was at work when a young co-worker came bursting in late, obviously distressed. I asked her if anything was wrong, and she replied, "Yeah, some dumb cop just gave me a ticket on Route 13. The bastard! He was only trying to make his quota!"

"How fast were you going?" I inquired.

"Eighty in a 55 zone," she replied.

"Now Tammy," I said, and couldn't help being a bit condescending. "Not to take sides or anything, but if I were a cop trying to make my quota, I don't think I could find anyone I'd rather make it on than you!"
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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2016, 01:16:07 pm »
One morning I was at work when a young co-worker came bursting in late, obviously distressed. I asked her if anything was wrong, and she replied, "Yeah, some dumb cop just gave me a ticket on Route 13. The bastard! He was only trying to make his quota!"

"How fast were you going?" I inquired.

"Eighty in a 55 zone," she replied.

"Now Tammy," I said, and couldn't help being a bit condescending. "Not to take sides or anything, but if I were a cop trying to make my quota, I don't think I could find anyone I'd rather make it on than you!"

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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2016, 01:19:58 pm »
I was listening to Larry Elder last night.

I would wager a huge number of blacks have their "cops pulled me over" stories; maybe even some Hispanics do.

I am white but even here,  I've learned that if one is out after 10 or 11 PM, you had better be very careful or you will be stopped.

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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2016, 01:21:10 pm »
Funny how the race-baiting, far-left Yahoo  left out so many FACTS about the guy and his GF.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/

One would think they are trying to encourage more lo-info blacks/Liberals to protest, riot, loot, and kill over the incident.

Oh and notice they always leave off the officer who shot him was Hispanic. Because the narrative here is an anti-white cops and white people thing.

 
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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2016, 01:22:23 pm »
Philando Castile was an Armed Robbery Suspect
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July 9, 2016
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In a major twist, it turns out that Philando Castile was stopped because he was a suspect in an armed robbery, not because his tail light was out. This new discovery is shedding new light on a shooting that is looking more justified each day.

Philando Castile was shot by St Anthony Officer Jeronimo Yanez during a traffic stop on Wednesday. Officer Yanez’s patrol partner, Officer Joseph Kauser, was present at the time. Immediately after the shooting, Castile’s girlfriend and passenger, Diamond Reynolds, started livestreaming the event on Facebook while narrating what was happening.  ...

Now, news station Kare11 has received audio recordings of scanner traffic when the traffic stop was called out on the radio:
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“I’m going to stop a car,” the officer says on the recording. “I’m going to check IDs.  I have reason to pull it over.”

The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery,” the officer says. “The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose,” the officer continues.  ...
...   Because the officers knew that they were dealing with potentially armed felony suspects, they were likely on high-alert for any motion that may indicate that somebody was reaching for a gun. It just so happens that in the video, you can see Castile’s right hand on a gun ...
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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2016, 01:24:36 pm »
Being stopped for a "Defective Equipment" violation is more times than not just grounds for a "legal"  cops fishing expedition.  Most recently I have been stopped for,  burnt out licence plate light... obstructed license plate .... using "fog" lights at night (WTF)  It's an old game the Keller/Southlake Tx police use pad their DUI stats and raise revenue. 

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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2016, 01:26:17 pm »
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but Castile's stop for a broken tail light

That is now in debate. Some saying nothing wrong with tail lights as the woman claiimed.

Also disputed now is whether he had a gun license. The county police said they did not give him one, but still chance he got from neighboring county.

Link to sheriff comment about no license.


https://twitter.com/RamseySheriff/status/751133768048480256

Also LiveLeak has a video of the two of them smoking pot in the same car with 4 y/o in backseat a few days earlier. 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b95_1468030677


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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2016, 01:27:12 pm »
Funny how the race-baiting, far-left Yahoo  left out so many FACTS about the guy and his GF.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/

One would think they are trying to encourage more lo-info blacks/Liberals to protest, riot, loot, and kill over the incident.

Oh and notice they always leave off the officer who shot him was Hispanic. Because the narrative here is an anti-white cops and white people thing.

Really sharp, attacking the messenger, yahoo;  I guess we can do that with every news story there.

And then, the writers of the story is the Associated Press.

So, you've just made an attack on the wrong entity as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2016, 01:31:58 pm »
Hopefully the more its pointed out to some in here that the Left Wing Press lies to them to push an agenda like Yahoo did here with omissions, editing and selecting what to allow out, the more will wake up to who the real enemies are.

They all had the info it was a felony stop, the police dispatch records and knew the GF lied about why they were stopped. So did anybody with common sense - it was daylight in the video so the tail-light out story was BS.

Yet here this story implies the GF's BS story of why they were stopped was legit, and he was just an innocent victim of driving while black....
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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2016, 01:37:32 pm »
Really sharp, attacking the messenger, yahoo;  I guess we can do that with every news story there.

And then, the writers of the story is the Associated Press.

So, you've just made an attack on the wrong entity as far as I'm concerned.
So then tell me why did they lie about why he was stopped? Why did they omit the Police Dispatch record of why he was stopped? Why did they Omit he was not a CCW holder and was a Crips Gang Member? Why did they Omit both the car and him matched a Police BOLO for an Armed Robbery that had occurred just a couple days before in that area?

Dam right I will point out Yahoo is far left and has an agenda here to enrage lo-info blacks to violence.
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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2016, 01:44:42 pm »
The deceased passed away at 9:37, 20 minutes after being shot. That means it is 9:17 when shot.

That is pretty close to sunset; I guess it varies and we are in the longest days of the year.

So, maybe people were using their tail lights.

But it looks like she is the only one saying he was stopped for a faulty tail light,  the police haven't released a statement on that it appears.

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2016, 01:53:36 pm »
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=215276.new

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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2016, 02:03:15 pm »
"Valerie Castile said she thinks her son "was just black in the wrong place." Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton said he did not believe it would have happened to a white motorist."

Dylan Noble's parents would disagree.

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Re: Stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2016, 02:12:09 pm »
Now this link says he did have a gun license... neighboring county of previous link I put up.

http://www.kare11.com/news/investigations/kare-11-investigates-racial-profiling-in-minnesota/266814958


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