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Offline markomalley

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LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« on: June 15, 2016, 08:41:22 am »
From the Washington Times:

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Several prominent gay-rights activists took to social media to blame Christians for Sunday’s massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando.

Chase Strangio, a staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union, on Sunday said the “Christian Right” is implicated in the slaughter by passing “anti-LGBT bills.”

“The Christian Right has introduced 200 anti-LGBT bills in the last six months, and people are blaming Islam for this. No,” Mr. Strangio said in a Twitter post.

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Which anti-LGBT bills are these?


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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2016, 10:57:48 am »
The shooter reportedly photocopied all of those anti-homosexual bills and waved them around in the nightclub, inflicting paper cuts on many of the revelers (adding even more injury to injury, so to speak).

Whether or not homosexuality is a mental illness, I present a comment posted on Facebook by the homosexual nephew of a friend of mine who had the temerity to share George W. Bush's post:
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George W. Bush
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"Today is Flag Day, a day to give thanks for the freedom our flag represents. This week we were reminded that there are those who want to take that freedom from others. Freedom is a precious gift that belongs to all our citizens. We mourn for ‪#‎Orlando‬, and we vow to vigorously defend our flag and our freedom."
Her nephew took exception to the former president's gracious words (I'll clean up his language slightly):
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Freedom? Freedom!? Freedom to go to work and not be fired based on your sexuality? NOPE. Freedom to start families? NOPE Freedom to pee? NOPE. Don't post b******t calls about freedoms in the wake of a tragedy that happened to a community that doesn't have them. This is some weak a** b******.
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 01:08:07 pm »
I'm sorry that all those nice gay folks lost their lives. But I'm not sorry for my sentiments regarding homosexuality and homosexualism, which are scourges upon Western civilization. We've tried everything we can to be nice and accommodating, but they'll have none of it. They hate Western civilization to the point where they've gone over to their own mortal enemies, the people who truly mean them harm, thinking that the enemy of their enemy is their friend. They are sick.
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 01:27:17 pm »
Pastor Jimenez in Sacramento California is the one oddball preacher; but face it, I guess some folks think like this. I certainly don't.

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"People say, 'Well, aren't you sad that 50 sodomites died?' Here's the problem with that, it's like the equivalent of asking me, 'Well, aren't you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?'" Jimenez said. "No, I think that's great. I think that helps society. I think that Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight."

Jimenez went on to say that it was a tragedy more didn't die.

"I'm kind of upset that he didn't finish the job because these people are predators," Jimenez said. "They are abusers, they take advantage of people."

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sacramento-pastor-defends-controversial-Orlando-8152900.php

In most venues, maybe even here, if one was saying something like this, one would likely be thought of being callous and hateful.

This almost deserves a separate thread but then, it's a bunch of threads basically on the same topic.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 01:42:46 pm »
Pastor Jimenez in Sacramento California is the one oddball preacher; but face it, I guess some folks think like this. I certainly don't.

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http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sacramento-pastor-defends-controversial-Orlando-8152900.php

In most venues, maybe even here, if one was saying something like this, one would likely be thought of being callous and hateful.

This almost deserves a separate thread but then, it's a bunch of threads basically on the same topic.
I  don't view homosexuality as normal, but it is not the same as pedophilia.
The pastor should be condemned for his comments.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 02:04:59 pm »
Pastor Jimenez in Sacramento California is the one oddball preacher; but face it, I guess some folks think like this. I certainly don't.

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This almost deserves a separate thread but then, it's a bunch of threads basically on the same topic.

In my opinion, such garbage like this does not even merit a mention, even to condemn it. 

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 02:22:49 pm »
This gives you an idea that it is impossible to satisfy the LGBT community.


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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 02:29:45 pm »
Can't watch a video here (at work), but is that where Anderson Cooper complains that she never tweeted in support of LGBTQWXYZs? 
I can hear Dusty Springfield singing, "All the world needs now, is hashtags, sweet hashtags ... It's the only thing that there's just too little of ..."   **nononono*
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 02:40:00 pm »
Can't watch a video here (at work), but is that where Anderson Cooper complains that she never tweeted in support of LGBTQWXYZs? 

Yes, Anderson had his "panties in a wad".  He appeared to mostly be pissed that Pam and the state do not support changing the State's constitution to allow gay marriage.
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 02:46:00 pm »
I  don't view homosexuality as normal, but it is not the same as pedophilia.
The pastor should be condemned for his comments.

Pastor of what?  His comments don't resemble anything I know about the loving God of Jesus Christ.
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 02:55:40 pm »
You can see the wheels in Bondi's head turning "But wait, I prosecuted Zimmerman just like you guys wanted me to and you're turning on me over this?"

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 02:58:34 pm »
Unbelievable.....
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2016, 03:01:53 pm »
In my opinion, such garbage like this does not even merit a mention, even to condemn it.

Agree.  This "pastor" knows NOTHING about Christianity.  This is hideous.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2016, 03:02:37 pm »
Pastor of what?  His comments don't resemble anything I know about the loving God of Jesus Christ.

Nor anything revealed in His Word.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2016, 03:27:23 pm »
Agree.  This "pastor" knows NOTHING about Christianity.  This is hideous.
Compare and contrast: Franklin Graham's Facebook posts.
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While politicians point fingers, let’s not forget the victims of the ‪#‎OrlandoShooting‬ who are clinging to life this morning and the doctors and nurses at Orlando Health caring for them. We will continue to learn more in the days ahead about the motives of the killer and what exactly took place, but today there are some precious lives that need our prayers along with the family members of 49 people who will be making plans to bury their loved ones in the next few days. So I ask all of you on Facebook to join me in praying for them. The Bible tells us in Psalms, “God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.”

Franklin Graham
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My prayers are with the many victims and family members who lost loved ones in the senseless shooting—now being called an act of terrorism—at a gay nightclub in Orlando early this morning. Life is precious, and we only have one chance to live our lives here on this earth.
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2016, 04:02:08 pm »
"Several prominent gay-rights activists took to social media to blame Christians for Sunday’s massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando."

I'm a Christian.

Let them "blame" whomever they wish.
I don't care.
I don't particularly care about them, nor do I care about their problems.
I'm not interested in what they have to say.

They're demented, and leftist.
They would happily take away YOUR rights in the blink of an eye.

Perhaps in time they'll wise up to something in the wake of what happened in Orlando.
But my guess is, that they won't.

<your favorite expletive inserted here>  'em.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 04:27:25 pm »
Sometimes they're a hard "group" for whom to be sorrowful.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 04:45:53 pm »
[[ LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack ]]

Hmmm- just like hte middle east blames Israel everytiem a Palestinian murders innocent Jews- That's what pure evil does- blames the victims- excuses the criminals-

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 04:51:27 pm »
From the Washington Times:

Which anti-LGBT bills are these?

I guess this puts LGBT activists a notch or two below islamic radicals on the Mindless Hate scale and moving up fast.

How long before the more motivated among them decide its morally appropriate to go shooting up christian congregations?

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2016, 07:14:53 pm »
I guess this puts LGBT activists a notch or two below islamic radicals on the Mindless Hate scale and moving up fast.

How long before the more motivated among them decide its morally appropriate to go shooting up christian congregations?
Not long. That's why I carry, even to church.
I just hope if the homosexuals start shooting, they get those cute little pink pistols. They're adorable and fabulous!
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 07:36:36 pm »
"Several prominent gay-rights activists took to social media to blame Christians for Sunday’s massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando."

I'm a Christian.

Let them "blame" whomever they wish.
I don't care.
I don't particularly care about them, nor do I care about their problems.
I'm not interested in what they have to say.

They're demented, and leftist.
They would happily take away YOUR rights in the blink of an eye.

Perhaps in time they'll wise up to something in the wake of what happened in Orlando.
But my guess is, that they won't.

<your favorite expletive inserted here>  'em.

They're already taking away our rights.

That's why I'll never go to Target again.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2016, 07:45:11 pm »
It sure would be a win/win for the media - they could explore the intolerable oppression that generated such an extreme response AND urge new gun control legislation.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2016, 08:17:25 pm »
From the Washington Times:

Which anti-LGBT bills are these?

He, like a typical leftist, is lying.  That would mean one bill introduced....I presume he means in Congress.... per day, every day, for six months.  That is just impossible, not to mention improbable.   And just who IS this Christian right?  Last I checked, Christians were very scantily represented in DC these days.
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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2016, 11:49:08 pm »
Sometimes they're a hard "group" for whom to be sorrowful.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for most weird sex i.e homo groups thanks to a number of things over the decades starting with the AIDs crisis which they helped spread and then blamed Reagan for. Many innocent non-homosexual people died thanks to their reckless behavior.
And now with the various weird sex groups making no secret of their hatred of Christians  and any other groups who oppose their agenda, my sympathy level went down more.
But I don't condemn individuals for what a group does. None of the people at the night club deserved to be shot and killed by an Islamo-fascist terrorist. For the same reason no non-Muslim has the right to kill a law-abiding, non-violent Muslim because of the behavior of radical Islamic groups. The pastor is way out of line.

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Re: LGBT activists blame Christians for Orlando attack
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2016, 11:58:39 pm »
There are Churches that exclusively cater to gays or is it better said, the LGBT community or in other cases, accepts them, fly rainbow banners; so this issue does have some complexities to it.
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