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Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
Saturday, June 11, 2016 07:12 PM

By: Todd Beamon

Donald Trump asked about 5,000 supporters at a rally in Florida on Saturday who his vice presidential pick should be — and they shouted out a bevy of names.

However, the presumptive nominee repeated only three from the stage in Tampa, Fox News reports: Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

The three names have surfaced as possible running mates for Trump, but a close confidante told Newsmax last month that Gingrich, the former Georgia senator, was at the top of the list.

Trump has long said that he was seeking a running mate with deep experience within Washington who could help him "with legislation, getting things through."

Gingrich, 72, told Bill O'Reilly on Fox News last month that "you have to look at it very seriously, of course" regarding the possibility of joining Trump on the Republican ticket.

"I regard Donald as an old friend," said Gingrich, who was House speaker from 1995 to 1999.

He said that he and his wife, Callista, "have regularly talked with him for the last five or six years during the campaign occasionally. I do more of it by email than I do phone.

"We have communicated on a routine basis with the campaign and with Trump and his family."

Gingrich has said recently that Trump should stop his attacks on the judge in his Trump University civil lawsuit. Though that led to speculation that Gingrich's name could be taken off Trump's short list, Trump actually has heeded advice to stop talking about the judge.

Gingrich himself also said that Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker would also make a good running mate because he is "a very stable guy."

Corker, 63, who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Trump met last month at Trump Tower in Manhattan.

But Corker played down the vice presidential possibility after the session.

"I have no reason whatsoever to think that I am being considered,” the senator told reporters afterward. "This was a meeting between two people who didn't know each other except over phone calls, getting to know one another.”

Sessions, 69, the first sitting senator to endorse Trump, ruled out the possibility earlier this month. The billionaire named Sessions his national security adviser in March.

"Don't bet any money on me," he told reporters outside the Senate chamber. "I think that would not happen.

"I have not talked with him about it."

Sessions sits on three key Senate committees — armed services, budget and judiciary — and chairs the Immigration and the National Interest Subcommittee.

As for Rice, 61, who served under President George W. Bush, she has long ruled out seeking elective office.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 01:52:07 pm »
I don't think it really makes a difference who Trump chooses.  Trump is Trump and won't get the support of principled constitutional conservatives.  And, it is not just because of Trump.  It is the GOP!  The GOP has sold its sole to the devil (leftist policies, views and voting records of the majority of GOP congress critters) that has left them holding a bag o' pooh.  So, the GOP and Trump can choose whomever their hart wants.  It won't change my mind.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 02:03:04 pm »
I don't think it really makes a difference who Trump chooses.  Trump is Trump and won't get the support of principled constitutional conservatives.  And, it is not just because of Trump.  It is the GOP!  The GOP has sold its sole to the devil (leftist policies, views and voting records of the majority of GOP congress critters) that has left them holding a bag o' pooh.  So, the GOP and Trump can choose whomever their hart wants.  It won't change my mind.

I self-describe as a principled constitutional conservative and I support Donald Trump. (Well, let's just see how long the forum rules prohibiting personal attacks last...3, 2, 1)

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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 02:07:30 pm »
I self-describe as a principled constitutional conservative and I support Donald Trump. (Well, let's just see how long the forum rules prohibiting personal attacks last...3, 2, 1)
So much for the definition of "principled", much less a constitutional conservative.  Trump is none of the above and quite the opposite.

See...nothing personal!  :patriot:
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 02:09:21 pm »
I self-describe as a principled constitutional conservative and I support Donald Trump. (Well, let's just see how long the forum rules prohibiting personal attacks last...3, 2, 1)

A personal reassessment may be in order.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 02:12:37 pm »
So much for the definition of "principled", much less a constitutional conservative.  Trump is none of the above and quite the opposite.

See...nothing personal!  :patriot:

Subtle, but still a personal dig. Anyway, I'll overlook it since you're new here and still smarting after your having suffered such a devastating loss in the presidential primary.  :beer: :patriot:

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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 02:55:13 pm »
Subtle, but still a personal dig. Anyway, I'll overlook it since you're new here and still smarting after your having suffered such a devastating loss in the presidential primary.  :beer: :patriot:
Well...I may loose again in the general but not as much as this country will loose if one of the two major party losers get elected.  At least I have MY principles.  Who knows, it's a very good probability that neither could get 270 Electoral votes and the House will have to select our next POTUS.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2016, 12:19:37 am »
Well...I may loose again in the general but not as much as this country will loose if one of the two major party losers get elected.  At least I have MY principles.  Who knows, it's a very good probability that neither could get 270 Electoral votes and the House will have to select our next POTUS.

I was also seeing a glimmer of hope with both being denied the majority.  However, pursuant to the Twelfth Amendment, only the top three Electoral College vote getters could be considered in the House Vote. Which primarily still gives us either Trump or Clinton.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2016, 01:31:34 am »
I was also seeing a glimmer of hope with both being denied the majority.  However, pursuant to the Twelfth Amendment, only the top three Electoral College vote getters could be considered in the House Vote. Which primarily still gives us either Trump or Clinton.
Time to get behind a single alternative as the #3 vote getter.  My vote goes to Darrell Castell, Constitution Party.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2016, 01:37:13 am »
Condi.

Will.

Not.

Run.

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Besides, this is from NewsMax.  As much an authority as DEBKA on any subject...

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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2016, 02:16:38 am »
Time to get behind a single alternative as the #3 vote getter.  My vote goes to Darrell Castell, Constitution Party.

Unfortunately, at this time the Constitution Party (whom I have supported in the past) doesn't appear that they are going to make it on the ballot in all 50 states.  According to their website, at this time they are only on the ballot in 18 states.  In 8 states they don't even have the ballot process started. The qualifications are more difficult for a 3rd party candidate and are very costly; we are talking millions of dollars. 

http://www.constitutionparty.com/get-involved/election-central/ballot-access/
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2016, 02:50:40 am »
Gingrich was unwilling to fall on the sword over Judge Curiel so there is no loyalty there.  Sessions does nothing for Trump except solidify the anti-illegal vote...so nothing.  Condi wouldn't take the spot.

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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2016, 02:55:33 am »
It doesn't matter who his running mate is, I'm never voting for him

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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2016, 03:13:37 am »
I listened to both Sen. Session and Speaker Gingrich this evening on Steven Bannon, Breitbart radio, XM Sirius.

Those two gentlemen have so much common sense, direct no nonsense manner of speaking. I hope they both serve in a Trump administration.

Romney, Ryan are lightweights compared to them.

This may turn out to be a "Silent Majority" and "National Security" election.

It is so easy to tie Hillary to Obama's many failures in that regard.

Gingrich said "Make America Safe Again"
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2016, 03:21:20 am »
I listened to both Sen. Session and Speaker Gingrich this evening on Steven Bannon, Breitbart radio, XM Sirius.

Those two gentlemen have so much common sense, direct no nonsense manner of speaking. I hope they both serve in a Trump administration.

Romney, Ryan are lightweights compared to them.

This may turn out to be a "Silent Majority" and "National Security" election.

It is so easy to tie Hillary to Obama's many failures in that regard.

Gingrich said "Make America Safe Again"

You don't know much about Sessions. He has a Thomas Figures problem and a curious affinity for Jimmy Faulkner that hasn't been explored, but would be devastating if done.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2016, 03:30:16 am »
You don't know much about Sessions. He has a Thomas Figures problem and a curious affinity for Jimmy Faulkner that hasn't been explored, but would be devastating if done.

I admit that I have no idea what a that means.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2016, 03:42:09 am »
You don't know much about Sessions. He has a Thomas Figures problem
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2016, 03:45:37 am »
So much for the definition of "principled", much less a constitutional conservative.  Trump is none of the above and quite the opposite.



The problem is that there is no arbiter or gatekeeper for those definitions.  People call themselves "conservatives" all the time in response to surveys.  But how accurate is that, really?  The unpleasant truth is that each of us has our own good-faith definition of what constitutes a "conservative" or "constitutional conservative" and those definitions rarely match up.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2016, 03:46:45 am »
Gingrich was unwilling to fall on the sword over Judge Curiel so there is no loyalty there. 

No politician has an obligation to fall on his sword to defend another, period.  Each is responsible for whatever blowback their own statements generate.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2016, 06:14:24 am »
No politician has an obligation to fall on his sword to defend another, period.  Each is responsible for whatever blowback their own statements generate.
True that Gingrich is under no obligation to lie and kiss Trump's ass, however a Vice President must be able to defend the administration regardless of personal opinion or ambition.  Loyalty is an expected job requirement.

and just as important, Trump is going to pick the VP...so if Gingrich really wanted the job he should have said the people defending judge Curiel were the real racists or something just as stupid to show solidarity with Trump.  Trump ain't going to pick him now.

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2016, 12:11:53 pm »
True that Gingrich is under no obligation to lie and kiss Trump's ass, however a Vice President must be able to defend the administration regardless of personal opinion or ambition.  Loyalty is an expected job requirement.

But Gingrich isn't Trump's VP yet.  Falling on your sword for someone for whom you don't even work is just being a brown-noser.

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and just as important, Trump is going to pick the VP...so if Gingrich really wanted the job he should have said the people defending judge Curiel were the real racists or something just as stupid to show solidarity with Trump.  Trump ain't going to pick him now.

Okay, then Gingrich is off his list.  That's what...32 down, 2 to go?  And one of those is emphatic about not wanting the job.
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2016, 04:25:52 pm »
Okay, then Gingrich is off his list.  That's what...32 down, 2 to go?  And one of those is emphatic about not wanting the job.
IMO Trump has pissed off all the good candidates that would help the ticket under conventional wisdom, but conventional wisdom has not served me well through the entire primary process.  It will be interesting to find out who Trump picks.

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2016, 04:38:25 pm »
You don't know much about Sessions. He has a Thomas Figures problem and a curious affinity for Jimmy Faulkner that hasn't been explored, but would be devastating if done.

Ok.  Had to 'google' to see who the heck Thomas Figures was and trying to figure out the comment about Faulkner.

http://www.mainjustice.com/2009/06/06/complicated-politics-elevate-obscure-hill-staffer-to-frontrunner-for-alabama-southern-district/

Sessions has long been hailed as one of the most conservative Senators we have when it comes to illegal immigration, but  I question Sessions motives in backing Trump as he vehemently defended Cruz with his statements and voting record surrounding illegal immigration.   I'm not so sure he would help Trump pull in the additional votes he's going to need, primarily from women and Hispanics.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2016, 05:45:12 pm »
Looks like Trump is striking out any way you look at it.  Sinking in the polls, can't find a VP that will help him, disliked by millions, etc.
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Re: Trump's VP Choices: Newt Gingrich, Jeff Sessions, Condi Rice?
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2016, 07:20:31 pm »
I self-describe as a principled constitutional conservative and I support Donald Trump.

I self-describe as a Muslim, and I eat pork.
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