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Although it is considered a foreign country by many, it appears the shooter was born in New York.

Then it should be safe to conclude that the recent imports may never assimilate either, correct?

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Omar was a licensed security guard with firearms license

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Then it should be safe to conclude that the recent imports may never assimilate either, correct?

No it shouldn't. 

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Obama will blame the NRA probably

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Omar was a licensed security guard with firearms license

MATEEN, OMAR
D 2723758 ISSUED, EXPIRES 09/14/2017 - https://licensing.freshfromflorida.com/access/individual.aspx?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=D%202723758&STATUS=IND_DETAIL
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Application For Security Officer License - Class "d" (FDACS-16007) [pdf] - http://forms.freshfromflorida.com/16007.pdf
Application For Statewide Firearm License- Class "g" (FDACS-16008) [pdf] - http://forms.freshfromflorida.com/16008.pdf

Which should mean he underwent some sort of a background check as well, correct?

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No it shouldn't.

Dearborn, Michigan anybody?   :whistle:
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And to counter the "I work with Muslims" statement; I know a fine Egyptian man and he does not care to go to the Mosques here with whatever the deal is . So, take that however.

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How does one shooter wound/kill 103 people?

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Texas has an idiot for a Lieutenant Governor:

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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How does one shooter wound/kill 103 people?

An unarmed crowd.

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Texas has an idiot for a Lieutenant Governor:



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Which should mean he underwent some sort of a background check as well, correct?

Yep, second set of links.

He is also the type of person the left says should be the only people allowed to own guns.

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As long as there's Mosques, the Koran and Islam are  being promoted and supported in this country there will be attacks.  They do not come here to assimulate and no longer expected to....the Gov. agenda now is that they 'integrate'.....which is a distinction because that is having their communities 'along side ours' and we are to accept this as the new norm.

So right. Islam is antithetical to Judeo-Christian values and ethics. First mosque US  built in Ross, ND in 1929 and the second in Cedar Rapids, Iowa in 1934. Yet Zero tells us islam has been part of the US since its founding. The House of Saud is working towards our destruction.

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One of the things Trump has been correct about is immigration. We should suspend all immigration from Muslim countries. The shooter was born in the USA, but I don't believe the mosques in the USA would be so radicalized if it weren't for the inflow of radical muslims and dollars from Saudia Arabia.

His parents were muslims that were admitted. That turned out very badly for the 20+ people that would be murdered by their America born son.

What about other relatives, friends/contacts of the couple?  BTW the male San Bernardino shooter was a native born US citizen, too.

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Dearborn, Michigan anybody?   :whistle:
Doesn't need to be a Muzzie with a gun, to shoot up people in Detroit.  There are enough black citizens with illegal guns who do that for them.
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what happened

You tell me.  Why would he tweet out something like this?
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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ESPN broke in to their regular programming and said this was the worse mass shooting in US history if the number is now 50 plus dead. 53? Maybe they said.

Or did someone say 103 now?
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 03:17:26 pm by TomSea »

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That's a stereotype. I work with three Muslims who are observing Ramadan and who will no doubt be horrified by this.  And they know they'll be looked at sideways for a while even though they would never agree with something like this.

Maybe the guy was just anti-gay.   That sentiment is not limited to Muslims.

We will most definitely disagree on the issue of Islam and Muslims. Has nothing to do with being stereotype rather years of study on the Islamic Culture, beliefs and Islamic agenda in this country and outside it.

You are certainly free to entertain whatever opinion you have of their culture and their beliefs, I don't share those rather I believe exactly what they say...not what that want us to believe they say.


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That's a stereotype. I work with three Muslims who are observing Ramadan and who will no doubt be horrified by this.  And they know they'll be looked at sideways for a while even though they would never agree with something like this.

Maybe the guy was just anti-gay.   That sentiment is not limited to Muslims.

Very true. The homophobia at FR was mind-boggling for me. Very angry and hate-filled.

More than a few Jeff Gannons over there IMO.

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Then it should be safe to conclude that the recent imports may never assimilate either, correct?

Here is one aspect worth considering: The San Bernardino male shooter, and the Orlando shooter, appear to both be native born citizens, born to muslim immigrants.

Am I the only one that sees a pattern and a huge risk, with these people and what they bring to America?
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His parents were muslims that were admitted. That turned out very badly for the 20+ people that would be murdered by their America born son.


I think its 50 now.

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This attack will do what terrorism does best.  Keep people from going to popular places and in turn cause those businesses money.

Schools are letting out for the summer...people are beginning to plan vacations to that area...and now this.

I'd expect to see cancellations increase starting today or tomorrow.
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That's a stereotype. I work with three Muslims who are observing Ramadan and who will no doubt be horrified by this.  And they know they'll be looked at sideways for a while even though they would never agree with something like this.

Maybe the guy was just anti-gay.   That sentiment is not limited to Muslims.

I believe this thinking is wrong.

Devout muslims are taught in the koran to brutalize, kill, enslave, mistreat any nonbelievers and will be rewarded by allah for doing so. The problem is with islam itself. It always has been. The terrorists who destroy themselves and kill innocent non believers in addition to being mentally unstable are fulfilling a martyr complex.
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