Pat Buchanan: The Donald & The La Raza Judge

[libertybele]

Actually, the fact that Trump has not filed to either move venue or ask that the judge recuse himself tells you that Trump doesn't believe what HE is trying to sell.

You see, if Trump possesses two degrees of intelligence above that of a sea cucumber, he knows that doing that doesn't mean that he will win the case, because there is a strong case here against him, and if he loses in a different venue with a lily-white Judge presiding, he has nothing and no one to blame for the loss.

Trump is setting up a "I've been wronged by a Mexican" excuse for losing his case.

    Most people see through the Orange Jello Brain while some seem to keep their heads buried in the sand.

[markomalley]

The American Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists (“AAJLJ”) was founded in 1983 and is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists (“IAJLJ”).  The IAJLJ was founded in 1969 by the late Justice Arthur J. Goldberg of the United States Supreme Court and the late Justice Haim Cohen of the Supreme Court of Israel.  The AAJLJ represents the American Jewish legal community, defending Jewish interests and human rights in the United States and abroad.

In addition, the AAJLJ works to combat those who utilize “lawfare” to delegitimize Israel.  AAJLJ efforts include filing amicus briefs in cases relating to the right of an American citizen born in Jerusalem to have “Israel” listed as his/her place of birth on their U.S. passport.

It conducts special Jewish-content continuing legal education and other programs including events at annual ABA meetings.  In addition, the AAJLJ seeks to promote an understanding of the principles of traditional Jewish Law among members of the bar, the judiciary, and the public.  AAJLJ programs address the relevance and applicability of Jewish Law to current legal issues such as human rights, national security, free speech and religious liberty.

http://www.jewishlawyers.org/content/about_us.asp

These guys are threatening our Christian roots!

And membership in this organization could cause qualms with some people and could generate a perceived conflict of interest. That's the point.

[markomalley]

Actually, the fact that Trump has not filed to either move venue or ask that the judge recuse himself tells you that Trump doesn't believe what HE is trying to sell.

You see, if Trump possesses two degrees of intelligence above that of a sea cucumber, he knows that doing that doesn't mean that he will win the case, because there is a strong case here against him, and if he loses in a different venue with a lily-white Judge presiding, he has nothing and no one to blame for the loss.

Trump is setting up a "I've been wronged by a Mexican" excuse for losing his case.

Again, I am not defending Trump's actions. His actions are totally inexcusable and, in fact, have changed me from being a Never Hillary voter (in other words, cast a vote in the generals for the only candidate who has a chance of defeating her in November) to being a Never Hillary Never Trump (in other words, either vote third party, write in, or sit this one out) voter.

The point I've made repeatedly is if Trump would have discussed this guy's memberships and instructed his lawyers to make the appropriate motions, he'd have a legitimate point (that would personally have satisfied me, even though the left would still scream RACISM).

[Luis Gonzalez]

If you think that is the same, you are either mentally challenged or simply dishonest. I'm guessing the latter. I've given you the appropriate analogy, and it is as if a German Lawyers group put links to Aryan Nation on their website. It is not innocent, it is not incidental or informative, it is a deliberate association to racism...in both cases.

That only works when in someone's mind the NCLR = Aryan nation. It doesn't.

I don't agree with many of the things that they stand for and certainly not the things that some people have called for using their name, but the NCLR itself is not akin to the Aryan nation.

If Trump really believes that being a member of an organization that put up a link to another organization with political goals that are at odds with his political message makes that Judge unfit to preside over the trial, he should file papers to make a change.

Why hasn't he?

 

[Luis Gonzalez]

The point I've made repeatedly is if Trump would have discussed this guy's memberships and instructed his lawyers to make the appropriate motions, he'd have a legitimate point (that would personally have satisfied me, even though the left would still scream RACISM).

They didn't because they don't have a legitimate point.

If he and his legal team never thought of taking that route, he is too damned stupid to be POTUS and pick a team of people to run the nation.

[markomalley]

If he and his legal team never thought of taking that route, he is too damned stupid to be POTUS and pick a team of people to run the nation.

Exactly.

[TomSea]

Why is anyone surprised that a noted anti-semite like Buchanan would defend another racist?

Per the ADL, Buchanan's statements seem mild:

http://archive.adl.org/special_reports/buchanan_own_words/buchanan_intro.html

We can all read this and then, ponder whether such an attack is justified instead of just tarring people with this term.

[Mesaclone]

Mesaclown Show me one place where NCLR calls for sedition or the overthrow of the US government. You can't because it doesn't exist. Your postings are  pathetic and deceitful propaganda trying to destroy the judge using blatant falsehoods and hoping no-one calls you out on your ignorance.

Here you go, just a tiny sampling with an excerpt:

Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

".... as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records."

And yes, these groups are actively creating school textbooks with hateful rhetoric about evil European oppressors, the righteousness of returning Aztlan to the Mexican people, and the importance of "blood"...race/ethnicity...above all else. AS I mentioned before, in AZ the Governor and AG have had to MECHA/La Raza agenda in the public schools of Tucson. This is an openly racist and seditionist movement...no conspiracies needed, just awareness on the part of Americans to what is a proclaimed agenda. How you can defend such things is beyond comprehension.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Here you go, just a tiny sampling with an excerpt:

So San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association = National Counsel of La Raza because of link on web page
and  National Counsel of La Raza = MEChA because 13 years ago NCLR granted $2,500 for a student conference

The reality is that in 2003, NCLR provided one chapter of the organization (Georgetown University) with a $2,500 subgrant to support a conference of Latino students—mainly from the Southwest and West Coast—who were attending East Coast colleges but could not afford to travel home for Thanksgiving.

no conspiracies needed, just awareness on the part of Americans to what is a proclaimed agenda. How you can defend such things is beyond comprehension.

No conspiracy needed, but brain damage or drugs are required.

http://www.nclr.org/about-us/who-we-are/
Another misconception about NCLR is the allegation that we support a “Reconquista,” or the right of Mexico to reclaim land in the southwestern United States. NCLR has not made and does not make any such claim; indeed, such a claim is so far outside of the mainstream of the Latino community that we find it incredible that our critics raise it as an issue. NCLR has never supported and does not endorse the notion of a “Reconquista” or “Aztlán.” Similarly, NCLR’s critics falsely claim that the statement “Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada,” [“For the community everything, outside the community nothing”] is NCLR’s motto. NCLR unequivocally rejects this statement, which is not and has never been the motto of any Latino organization.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Here you go, just a tiny sampling with an excerpt:

Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

".... as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records."

And yes, these groups are actively creating school textbooks with hateful rhetoric about evil European oppressors, the righteousness of returning Aztlan to the Mexican people, and the importance of "blood"...race/ethnicity...above all else. AS I mentioned before, in AZ the Governor and AG have had to MECHA/La Raza agenda in the public schools of Tucson. This is an openly racist and seditionist movement...no conspiracies needed, just awareness on the part of Americans to what is a proclaimed agenda. How you can defend such things is beyond comprehension.

Given Donald's financial ties to the group. Does that change you view on his merits to be president?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,210588.msg914960.html#msg914960
Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has been openly condemning U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel on the campaign trail for, among other things, his alleged affiliation with the National Council of La Raza (NCLR). But despite Trump's political posturing, several recipients of La Raza Congressional and Capital Awards have been direct beneficiaries of Donald Trump's money.

[geronl]

The law group is not the same org as National Council of La Raza

This seems too complicated for Trumpkins

[Mechanicos]

So San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association = National Counsel of La Raza because of link on web page
and  National Counsel of La Raza = MEChA because 13 years ago NCLR granted $2,500 for a student conference

The reality is that in 2003, NCLR provided one chapter of the organization (Georgetown University) with a $2,500 subgrant to support a conference of Latino students—mainly from the Southwest and West Coast—who were attending East Coast colleges but could not afford to travel home for Thanksgiving.
No conspiracy needed, but brain damage or drugs are required.

http://www.nclr.org/about-us/who-we-are/
Another misconception about NCLR is the allegation that we support a “Reconquista,” or the right of Mexico to reclaim land in the southwestern United States. NCLR has not made and does not make any such claim; indeed, such a claim is so far outside of the mainstream of the Latino community that we find it incredible that our critics raise it as an issue. NCLR has never supported and does not endorse the notion of a “Reconquista” or “Aztlán.” Similarly, NCLR’s critics falsely claim that the statement “Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada,” [“For the community everything, outside the community nothing”] is NCLR’s motto. NCLR unequivocally rejects this statement, which is not and has never been the motto of any Latino organization.

Why does the #neverTrump group ignore all the intermingling of the two groups? Like the head of the lawyers group a sitting board member on the Council? Like shared activities and social events Like Both groups are boycotting Trump? Etc. They are just a dressed up part of La Raza, not distinct.

[markomalley]

Given Donald's financial ties to the group. Does that change you view on his merits to be president?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,210588.msg914960.html#msg914960
Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has been openly condemning U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel on the campaign trail for, among other things, his alleged affiliation with the National Council of La Raza (NCLR). But despite Trump's political posturing, several recipients of La Raza Congressional and Capital Awards have been direct beneficiaries of Donald Trump's money.

Doesn't say a blasted thing about La Raza, but it does show Trump to be a blasted hypocrite.

Just add it to the list of his faults that his apologists will have to excuse.

[DiogenesLamp]

Do you think the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is racist?

Yes. 

  How about the United Negro College Fund?

Yes.   You picked some particularly bad examples if you were trying to argue groups with a racial focus are not racist.   Both are very racist,  seeking only to promote or advance members of a specific race.   When the focus is race,   the group is by definition,   racist. 

How about the National Italian American Foundation? 

No,   and neither would be a "National Mexican-American Foundation",   because it's possible to celebrate a culture without focusing on their specific racial makeup.   

Or the American Irish Teachers Association?

Just another excuse to party.   Even the IRA isn't a racist group,   because none of their demands have anything to do with race,   they are all about being left alone in the land where they live. 


Another bad example.   

[DiogenesLamp]

Could one of the mods please close down my account? I've had enough of this place.

Don't be a drama queen.   If you don't like the place,   just leave.  Leave quietly,   and have some dignity about it.   

[truth_seeker]

FLASHBACK: Justice Sonia Sotomayor Says Ethnicity 'Will Make Difference In Our Judging'

http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/flashback-justice-sonia-sotomayor-says-ethnicity-14790189/

[DiogenesLamp]

So according to Wikipedia at least, it's a term of ethnic pride and not an overtly racist term.  So why do you insist on seeing it as an indication of racism?

Because that is the manner in which it has always been described to me.   The news sources which have described the behavior of the "La Raza"  supporters,  leave no doubt that they are utilizing the terms in a context of racial superiority and racial solidarity.   


Just for kicks,   I went to look at the wikipedia entry for "La Raza"  to see if it expounded on the definition.   I noticed it had links to other groups listed, one of which is "Raza Unidad".  ("Race United",  I think)   Here is their flag. 




Hmmm....   that looks sort of familiar somehow. 

[truth_seeker]

Bad example The definition of racism is :  a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

A group trying to improve the conditions of a specific race is not necessarily racist. There are countless charitable organizations that focus on a specific group in need they want to help ...many times based on ethnicity...other times based on country of origin or some other characteristic that sets them apart.

FLASHBACK: Justice Sonia Sotomayor Says Ethnicity 'Will Make Difference In Our Judging'

http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/flashback-justice-sonia-sotomayor-says-ethnicity-14790189/

[DiogenesLamp]

I am not trying to misguide you.  I am desperately trying to help you understand that the "La Raza" tattoo parlor, bowling tournaments, and hundreds of radio stations around the world are not racist, nor is the La Raza lawyers association.

I have no knowledge of "La Raza"  tattoo parlors,  bowling tournaments,   or radio stations,   and to examine and determine whether or not they are racist is beyond the scope of my intent.   My knowledge of the term "La Raza"  comes from information that I have read for years regarding this group's support for illegals and "reconquistadoras."   

Beyond that,  i've known quite a few Mexicans in my life,   and a lot of them really do believe they are superior to the "Anglos."   I find it not at all hard to believe that there are Chicano groups celebrating their superiority,   because I have seen this very attitude with my own eyes.   '

It is so illogical to repeat your misinformation, after being called on it multiple times,

People have disputed multiple times,   but I hardly call an asserted opinion as being evidentiary.   No,   I haven't been "called on it multiple times",   because that implies that the point has been reasonably addressed,   and the fact remains that it hasn't.    Other people asserted different opinions,   but have yet to put forth sufficient evidence that their opinions are correct  so as to demonstrate to me that mine are wrong. 

If your assertion regarding all sorts of diverse aspects of Mexican culture using the words "Raza"  in everyday and mundane contexts turns out to be true,   than you will have gone some ways down the path to convincing me that I might be mistaken about the "La Raza Lawyers association"  having a racial based nature.   But it has not been sufficiently established at this point for me to just accept it on someone else's say-so. 

that I have to assume you have no intention of giving up a good Mexican scapegoat.  Even when your leader has.

Trump is seeing the beating that the Liberal media is giving him over this,  and has decided that  it isn't worth pressing the point. 

The fact that Liberals are casting aspersion on him  does not make him wrong about this.   Again,   my presumption is that any Obama appointee is going to likely be incompetent and obsessed with race. 


I find it completely plausible that an Obama appointed partisan Judge of Mexican ancestry is deliberately screwing Trump around.   


And I don't like Trump.   

[DiogenesLamp]

There fixed it for you.

Is the NCLR leftist leaning?  Of course it is and I do not support this group. But neither do I support purposeful misrepresentation of this group and even worse the character assassination of a federal
judge just because of his heritage who is not even a member of NCLR but rather has a membership in a local La Raza Lawyers of San Diego not affiliated with NCLR.


...


We note that throughout NCLR’s history, its staff have been represented by Americans from a wide spectrum of racial and ethnic groups—White, Black, Asian, Native American, Hispanic, and so on. We note further that NCLR’s bylaws, personnel policies, and institutional values contain explicit prohibitions against discrimination.

http://www.nclr.org/about-us/faqs/

You could have summed that all up by saying " Their Website says they aren't racists."   


That is not the same thing as proving the statement is true.   What sort of fool would admit to being racially biased?   They are Lawyers,   therefore they are not stupid.   Whether or not they are honest in their statements is another matter entirely. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Bad example The definition of racism is :  a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

So you think the notion that "We are black and provide advancement and support for black people"   doesn't fit under the umbrella of racism?   

That a group can work to benefit a specific race so long as they don't believe that one is superior to the other? 

But never mind that.   You cut off the second part of that definition of Racism from merriam webster.   It says:

2 :  racial prejudice or discrimination

Bingo!  There it is.   If you are discriminating on the basis of race,  then you are a defacto racist organization.   Tell me,  how many scholarships have the "La Raza Lawyers association" given to Black, Asian,  or White kids?   

A group trying to improve the conditions of a specific race is not necessarily racist.

Come again?    If the criteria is race,   they are not "racists"?    That is a non sequitur. 

There are countless charitable organizations that focus on a specific group in need they want to help ...many times based on ethnicity...other times based on country of origin or some other characteristic that sets them apart.

  Focusing on ethnicity is inherently racist,  and "country of origin" can sometimes be used as a back door for ethnicity in a lot of cases.   I do not believe "country of origin"  is used this way by some charity organizations that help numerous and diverse peoples in numerous and diverse countries,   but for those made up of a specific ethnicity to target only their own specific ethnicity,   then "country of origin"  becomes a sort of euphemism for "race."   

Now focusing on "class"  and being non-discriminatory regarding from which country the poor class of people originate,  then you can't say their support is explicitly racist. 


But none of that applies to an ethnic based group which focuses specifically on an ethnic based criteria for assistance.   


Those are inherently racist.   Do they have a right to be racist?  Absolutely,   but let us not fool ourselves about what they are doing and what they stand for. 

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Raza unida is a small party from the 70's and 80's with some radical members. I even think they had a candidate for governor of Texas a long time ago and of course received almost no votes. I am not sure if they are even still around. I would have to check. But they are insignificant and not representative of the groups we are discussing. Probably popular with some of the gangs and you might see their graffiti much like you might see swastika graffiti from some low life thugs.

I won't post a picture of the swastika for dramatic purposes. I prefer this
Patriotism & Respect for Armed Forces High Among Latinos, Fox News Latino Poll Shows

Latino poll finds that 76% of Latinos believe the United States of America is the best country in the world.

“They came here with this belief and for them coming to this country has re-enforced their original views,” says Parillo.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/03/09/latinos-patriotism-respect-armed-forces-high/

They like America even more than Trump does.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I have no knowledge of "La Raza"  tattoo parlors,  bowling tournaments,   or radio stations,   and to examine and determine whether or not they are racist is beyond the scope of my intent.   My knowledge of the term "La Raza"  comes from information that I have read for years regarding this group's support for illegals and "reconquistadoras."

You don't have google?  Here are your "reconquistadoras.

La Raza bakery in NJ...no white donuts.
https://start.cortera.com/company/research/l7q8kts8q/la-raza-bakery/

Bakery La Raza Mexican in GA  trece cupcakes to the dozen
https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/winder-ga/35038199-bakery-la-raza-mexican

or Veterinaria La Raza - separatist fish and kittens
https://foursquare.com/v/veterinaria-la-raza/53973596498e94dc38a8275c

or Plaza de la Raza School of Performing and Visual Arts - bigoted folk dancing
http://www.plazadelaraza.org/school/class-schedule/

or La Raza Flower Shop prejudiced petunias
https://www.facebook.com/La-Raza-Flower-Shop-244690085862932/photos_stream?tab=photos

https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/los-angeles-ca/4607556-la-raza-barber-shop  barber shop
http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-raza-tattoo-and-permanent-makeup-by-jlo-tulare  tattoo parlor
http://www.manta.com/c/mmzv2rl/billar-la-raza  pool hall

La Raza Taxi service https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/norcross-ga/45766660-la-raza-taxi-service

Beyond that,  i've known quite a few Mexicans in my life,   and a lot of them really do believe they are superior to the "Anglos."   I find it not at all hard to believe that there are Chicano groups celebrating their superiority,   because I have seen this very attitude with my own eyes.   '

People have disputed multiple times,   but I hardly call an asserted opinion as being evidentiary.   No,   I haven't been "called on it multiple times",   because that implies that the point has been reasonably addressed,   and the fact remains that it hasn't.    Other people asserted different opinions,   but have yet to put forth sufficient evidence that their opinions are correct  so as to demonstrate to me that mine are wrong.

You're correct.  I have not given you the list innocuous "La Raza" businesses and groups.  I had you mixed up with somebody else.  Thank you for correcting me.

If your assertion regarding all sorts of diverse aspects of Mexican culture using the words "Raza"  in everyday and mundane contexts turns out to be true,   than you will have gone some ways down the path to convincing me that I might be mistaken about the "La Raza Lawyers association"  having a racial based nature.   But it has not been sufficiently established at this point for me to just accept it on someone else's say-so.

Trump is seeing the beating that the Liberal media is giving him over this,  and has decided that  it isn't worth pressing the point. 

The fact that Liberals are casting aspersion on him  does not make him wrong about this.   Again,   my presumption is that any Obama appointee is going to likely be incompetent and obsessed with race.

I find it completely plausible that an Obama appointed partisan Judge of Mexican ancestry is deliberately screwing Trump around.   


And I don't like Trump.

[DiogenesLamp]

Proving what statement to be true?  This is what I wrote:

Is the NCLR leftist leaning?  Of course it is and I do not support this group. But neither do I support purposeful misrepresentation of this group and even worse the character assassination of a federal judge just because of his heritage who is not even a member of NCLR but rather has a membership in a local La Raza Lawyers of San Diego not affiliated with NCLR.


The MECha comments about the judge, trying to link him to radicals who seek to overthrow the government...Even a fool would call that purposeful misrepresentation and character assassination.

It is in question.   It has yet to be determined in my own mind.   In order to reasonably determine the disposition of an organization,  one would have to go to quite a lot of trouble to look at what they do and what they don't do.   


But using the name "The RACE"  in their title,   does not fill one with confidence that they are non-discriminatory. 

Again,   I wonder how many of their scholarships have gone to non Chicanos?   

[DiogenesLamp]

You don't have google?  Here are your "reconquistadoras.

La Raza bakery in NJ...no white donuts.
https://start.cortera.com/company/research/l7q8kts8q/la-raza-bakery/

Bakery La Raza Mexican in GA  trece cupcakes to the dozen
https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/winder-ga/35038199-bakery-la-raza-mexican

or Veterinaria La Raza - separatist fish and kittens
https://foursquare.com/v/veterinaria-la-raza/53973596498e94dc38a8275c

or Plaza de la Raza School of Performing and Visual Arts - bigoted folk dancing
http://www.plazadelaraza.org/school/class-schedule/

or La Raza Flower Shop prejudiced petunias
https://www.facebook.com/La-Raza-Flower-Shop-244690085862932/photos_stream?tab=photos

https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/los-angeles-ca/4607556-la-raza-barber-shop  barber shop
http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-raza-tattoo-and-permanent-makeup-by-jlo-tulare  tattoo parlor
http://www.manta.com/c/mmzv2rl/billar-la-raza  pool hall

La Raza Taxi service https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/norcross-ga/45766660-la-raza-taxi-service

You're correct.  I have not given you the list innocuous "La Raza" businesses and groups.  I had you mixed up with somebody else.  Thank you for correcting me.

Of all the "bait and switch"  sort of crap... Other people can play this stupid game too.   


http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/trucking/aryan-transport-in-allen-tx-90411518


http://www.topseos.com/profile/aryan-business-solutions/


http://aryanimmigrationservices.com/


http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Aryan-Engineering.And.Manufacturing-Services-Inc.-408-980-9119


https://www.myqbd.com/index.php?/qatar-companies-profile-rev/5958/ARYAN_TRANSPORT_&_TRDG_CO_WLL


And no,   I didn't bother investigating each and every one to see if they were racist or not.   


Following *YOUR*  logic,   the mundane usage of the word "ARYAN"  proves that it cannot possibly have a RACIST context.   That's your argument in a nutshell. 

No. It. Doesn't.   It proves no such thing.   



The point is,   pulling a bunch of names off the internet gives no scope regarding how these words are normally understood in the context of "La Raza"  the organization.   

That Chicano-Americans might use the term to distinguish themselves as "hablo espanol"  and knowledgeable about Hispanic culture,   does not mean the words are not intended to be racist in another context. 

That these businesses are direct appeals to "the RACE"  is also not in doubt.   Of course they are trying to attract Hispanic business.   That is probably their dominant clientele anyways. 


To recap,   innocuous usage of a word does not preclude racist  usages of a word.