NOW: #Trump supporter attacked and left bleeding in San Jose (video)

[txradioguy]

Projection. This one sees the truth I posted and doesn't like facing it. Thats what I mean about online oneupmanship. Theyhave nothing but silence at the inaction of their fellows in a for real mauling. Because thats the courage of their convictions on display for all to see. They stood by idly and watched it happen waiting for a white/orange knight to save them. And he too left them alone. All alone.

And even with all of that they will find a way to blame us.

[Norm Lenhart]

And even with all of that they will find a way to blame us.

There is a meme out there I can't post due to it's language. But it says "Behold thee, mine field of XXXX and see that it is barren"

They should spend their time better than speaking to people not remotely interested in anything they have to say. Burning all those bridges left them with a big problem.

[kevindavis007]

Yes American citizens have the right to peacefully assemble; that wasn't my point.  The point is Trump himself created this atmosphere with his attacks on various groups and individuals and his comments about wanting to punch people and his supporters would still support him even if he were to shoot someone on 5th Avenue in NY. His comments against different ethnic groups doesn't help nor the KKK endorsement.  It is his bombastic and narcissistic approach to issues and his violent tone that has drawn citizens against each other; certainly he's not uniting the country.  The country is further divided than ever before. When a presidential candidate lies about others with vicious attacks and makes outlandish comments referencing violence it creates ugliness.  The ugliness has spilled over into violence.  This type of ugliness and violence hasn't been seen in previous election cycles.Trump has brought this about.

Karma

[mountaineer]

Does anyone not believe these violent protesters are funded and organized by leftists like Soros, La Raza, or even the Hillary campaign? Blaming conservatives who are "never Trump" or saying they approve of bloody attacks on Trump supporters is ridiculous. Acting like the protesters were just exercising their First Amendment rights is just silly, too.

Photos (of protesters with "We need Socialism" signs, wearing Che Guevara shirts) and story at ABC News

[Norm Lenhart]

Does anyone not believe these violent protesters are funded and organized by leftists like Soros, La Raza, or even the Hillary campaign? Blaming conservatives who are "never Trump" or saying they approve of bloody attacks on Trump supporters is ridiculous. Acting like the protesters were just exercising their First Amendment rights is just silly, too.

Photos (of protesters with "We need Socialism" signs, wearing Che Guevara shirts) and story at ABC News

For sure they were.

As to the fanatical devotees hurling their venom at conservatives, it's like I said on another thread. They should spend their time preparing for the feral mobs. Alone. Because we were specifically told we are not needed and Hillary Supporting Fascists.

Well, those words and insults mean things. And if more sane Trump supporters were smart, they'd be policing and purging these dangerous idiots in their ranks. Because when the SHTF, we see what happens. Trump supporters won't protect their own from the mob now. And they should not expect conservatives to endanger ourselves on their behalf.

[Texas Yellow Rose]

No I do not remember that because its not true. The Protesters were the violent ones and Trump said he would pay legal bills of supporters who defended themselves. We are not the violent ones. That's a fictional Meme is all. Twisting it to fit the narrative.

QUOTE: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5s9kpPZBbg&feature=youtu.be

[kevindavis007]

For sure they were.

As to the fanatical devotees hurling their venom at conservatives, it's like I said on another thread. They should spend their time preparing for the feral mobs. Alone. Because we were specifically told we are not needed and Hillary Supporting Fascists.

Well, those words and insults mean things. And if more sane Trump supporters were smart, they'd be policing and purging these dangerous idiots in their ranks. Because when the SHTF, we see what happens. Trump supporters won't protect their own from the mob now. And they should not expect conservatives to endanger ourselves on their behalf.

Karma 

[Norm Lenhart]

Karma

Yes sir. Bought and paid for.

[txradioguy]

At the end of the day....like Trump or hate him...these protestors are not really anti Trump...they are anti America.  They'd be doing the same thing the same way if it was Cruz up there or Jeb or Kasich.

It's not the specific person they despise as much as the ideals of the person representing the political party.

Now Trump has done his fair share to stoke their rage and making this about him helps fuel his mob of supporters...but these protestors with their Mexican flags and "We need more Socialism" posters are hating on America...not just one man.

[Norm Lenhart]

At the end of the day....like Trump or hate him...these protestors are not really anti Trump...they are anti America.  They'd be doing the same thing the same way if it was Cruz up there or Jeb or Kasich.

It's not the specific person they despise as much as the ideals of the person representing the political party.

Now Trump has done his fair share to stoke their rage and making this about him helps fuel his mob of supporters...but these protestors with their Mexican flags and "We need more Socialism" posters are hating on America...not just one man.

Yup, thats the whole of it.

[ConstitutionRose]

No I do not remember that because its not true. The Protesters were the violent ones and Trump said he would pay legal bills of supporters who defended themselves. We are not the violent ones. That's a fictional Meme is all. Twisting it to fit the narrative.

Nope.  I watched the video.  Trump made that statement in reference to a protester that was being removed from the rally.  The protester hadn't been violent.  He had held up a sign or shouted something.  Trump acknowledged that he sometimes wanted to punch them himself and then went into his pay the legal fees jive. 

I arrived at my opinion about Trump through research and evaluating his words and actions, past and present and the indicators of his character.  I did not take anyone's word for it.  I went and watched the video for myself.

[txradioguy]

No I do not remember that because its not true. The Protesters were the violent ones and Trump said he would pay legal bills of supporters who defended themselves. We are not the violent ones. That's a fictional Meme is all. Twisting it to fit the narrative.

At a campaign rally in Kansas City on Saturday, the day after the unrest in Chicago, Trump addressed an earlier event in Dayton, Ohio, when a protester tried to storm the stage.

The candidate said he would have fought the person had he reached the lectern and mimed punching him a few times.

"I'll beat the crap out of you," he then mouthed.



Demonstrators interrupted a Trump rally in St. Louis, Missouri, Friday. As they were being escorted out of the venue, the candidate bemoaned the fact that there were no longer "consequences" to protesting and insisted the "country has to toughen up."

“You know, part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right?" he explained.




At a press conference in Florida earlier on Friday, Trump was asked about his rhetoric in the wake of an incident in which a supporter at a rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina, sucker-punched a black man in the face.

While he wasn't asked about that specific altercation, Trump said of violent behavior in general at his events: "The audience hit back and that's what we need a little bit more of."

He also praised people using physical force at his rallies as "appropriate."

On NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday, Trump said he would have his team look into paying the legal fees of 78-year-old John McGraw, who was charged with assault and disorderly conduct after attacking the protester.




As protesters were being escorted out of the rally in Fayetteville on Wednesday, Trump told the crowd that the protesters were not being treated poorly enough.

“They used to treat them very, very rough, and when they protested once, they would not do it again so easily,” he said, before lamenting "we've become weak."



At a rally in Michigan in early March, Trump again seemed to give the green light to violent behavior. As a protester was being escorted out of the building, Trump marveled at what a "fun time" everyone was having.

"Get him out," he then said. "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."

He then told an anecdote about a brawl at a prior rally that was "amazing to watch."



At a Las Vegas rally in late February, as a protester was again being removed from the premises, Trump lamented that "we're not allowed to punch back anymore" and reminisced about the halcyon "old days," when a protester would "be carried out on a stretcher."

The crowd is delighted, cheering, clapping and laughing.

He then said he'd like to punch the man in the face, again to cheers.




After a protester threw a tomato at Trump at a previous event, he encouraged fighting at a later campaign stop in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, in early February.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously." He again promised to pay for any legal fees associated with an assault.




After a Black Lives Matter activist was kicked, punched and, he said, called the N-word at a campaign event in Birmingham, Alabama, in November, Trump expressed his approval.

"Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing," the now frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination told Fox & Friends the next day.

Trump said the man deserved the treatment because he had been "very obnoxious" and "so loud."

http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#HE2W6D4N3iqn


The ONLY "fictional meme" being pushed around here is that Trump hasn't done anything to incite promote or outright call for violence at his rallies.

[Mechanicos]

QUOTE: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5s9kpPZBbg&feature=youtu.be

Thank you for blowing up the #neverTrump narrative. Even your own evidence is a case of "if something occurs then..."
Throwing things at others including tomatoes out of anger etc is ASSAULT. Stopping the throwers is justified self defense.

[Mechanicos]

http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#HE2W6D4N3iqn


The ONLY "fictional meme" being pushed around here is that Trump hasn't done anything to incite promote or outright call for violence at his rallies.

So show me where Trump or any of his supporters initiated any of that violence. There are people who are against the right of self defense - are you one of them? Real Men and Americans do not back off when thugs threaten them and their families.

[ArneFufkin]

I see the jackass San Jose mayor justified this fascistic thuggery.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002680

My first reaction is ....  Go Penguins!!!

[Maj. Bill Martin]

If more sane Trump supporters were smart, they'd be policing and purging these dangerous idiots in their ranks.

But exactly how are they supposed to accomplish that, in a practical sense?  People - including idiots, illiterates, and morons of all stripes, are free to support whomever they wish.  A reasonable guy like @Mesaclone can't prevent folks like WENDLE or Harleylady from supporting Trump, just as none of us can stop people who support our preferred candidates from saying dumb things.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#HE2W6D4N3iqn


The ONLY "fictional meme" being pushed around here is that Trump hasn't done anything to incite promote or outright call for violence at his rallies.

Do you really believe that the reason those leftist thugs were assaulting Trump supporters in San Jose was because Trump encouraged people to punch those who tried to disrupt his rallies months ago?

I don't generally condone violence, but i also think that everyone should have the right to speak and be heard in a hall they rented, and the people who are attending peaceably have the right to hear the speaker, whether it is Trump, Cruz, Hillary or Bernie. People who go there deliberately to disrupt that are fully deserving of a bit roughing up, in my opinion.  If you don't see a difference between wanting to ensure that you can speak in peace at your own rallies, and using villence to disrupt the rallies of others, the. I guess our perspectives are too far apart to agree on this.

But I don't think that has a damn thing to do with this anyway.  This is from hard left socialists and hispanic activists trying to silence, through violence, political speech they don't like. 

Frankly, i think it's rather impressive that pissed-off Trump supporters haven't yet retaliated in kind by doing the same at Bernie rallies.

[txradioguy]

Do you really believe that the reason those leftist thugs were assaulting Trump supporters in San Jose was because Trump encouraged people to punch those who tried to disrupt his rallies months ago?

I think it gives them the excuse.  But like iI said elsewhere.  The thugs that showed up at the Trump rally would have done that no matter the GOP candidate.  They aren't necessarily anti-Trump...they are anti-American...period.

But that being said...Trump plays up the me against them BS to whip his cult into a frenzy.

[SuperSyn]

I am as #NeverTrump as can be, but this type of violent protest is something brought on by Obama, BLM and La Raza, hence the lack of decisive action from police, just like we see at all BLM protests in liberal states and cities. They will find a reason to engage in mob violence, trying to intimidate us as one part of a concerted leftist effort to undermine our constitutional rights. I don't care how insulting or provocative Trump is from the stage, or what he says, it is not justification for this type of nonsense, just like punching a peaceful protester inside a Trump rally is also out of line.

We have to collectively hold ourselves to a higher standard, but Obama and the left wants to, and has, destroyed that, making this type of violent protest acceptable. Not only do they refuse to police it properly, but they also refuse to investigate and prosecute it. If the authorities don't protect our constitutional rights, then we will have no choice but to do it ourselves. Prepare to do so. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I am as #NeverTrump as can be, but this type of violent protest is something brought on by Obama, BLM and La Raza, hence the lack of decisive action from police, just like we see at all BLM protests in liberal states and cities. They will find a reason to engage in mob violence, trying to intimidate us as one part of a concerted leftist effort to undermine our constitutional rights. I don't care how insulting or provocative Trump is from the stage, or what he says, it is not justification for this type of nonsense, just like punching a peaceful protester inside a Trump rally is also out of line.

We have to collectively hold ourselves to a higher standard, but Obama and the left wants to, and has, destroyed that, making this type of violent protest acceptable. Not only do they refuse to police it properly, but they also refuse to investigate and prosecute it. If the authorities don't protect our constitutional rights, then we will have no choice but to do it ourselves. Prepare to do so.

Amen.  Those who think that not speaking out against this is just giving Trump supporters "what they deserve" overlooks that we are all victims when free speech/free assembly is suppressed.  I'd also point out that as much as someTrump supporters may be annoying and fascistic themselves, that does not warrant the violent intimidation of even one other Trump supporter.  That's the kind of collective guilt that we conservatives have supposedly always stood against.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I think it gives them the excuse.  But like iI said elsewhere.  The thugs that showed up at the Trump rally would have done that no matter the GOP candidate.  They aren't necessarily anti-Trump...they are anti-American...period.

But that being said...Trump plays up the me against them BS to whip his cult into a frenzy.

You'll get no argument from me on Trump's buffoonery, or how some of his supporters seem....less than erudite.  Nor how some of his rhetoric is inflammatory.  But I think a great many of us here already agree on that.  Perhaps more importantly, there are plenty of other substantive issues on which to attack him that don't come across as excusing, at least in part, the violence committed by leftist mobs.

This is one issue on which all of us conservatives should be able to agree.  And it's not a question of defending Trump, but rather a question of challenging/attacking those leftist mobs.  It's an absolute outrage that leading Democrat politicians are almost completely silent on this.  If this was happening in the other direction, Obama already would have sent the Justice Department to investigate the conspiracy to suppress civil rights by organized conservative groups.  But we're seeing not a peep from Washington -- they are just letting this happen.  And the mayor of San Jose seems virtually complicit in this.  That should outrage any conservative, and that's where we should be focusing our energies. 

Instead, too many are viewing this as just another rhetorical opportunity to justify their opposition to Trump.  It's about proving themselves "right", or justifying "nevertrump" status, which as a practical matter really doesn't matter at all except in arguments on message boards.  Does it really matter whether others believe you to be justified or not?  And in the meantime, actual leftist mobs are being emboldened by the relative lack of opposition, abetted by those conservatives who can't see the forest for the trees.

Trump is a one-off buffoon.  He'll be gone in four years, max.  But MECHa, the militant socialists, etc., are going to be with us, and a real threat, for a lot longer than that.

[kidd]

At the end of the day....like Trump or hate him...these protestors are not really anti Trump...they are anti America.  They'd be doing the same thing the same way if it was Cruz up there or Jeb or Kasich.

It's not the specific person they despise as much as the ideals of the person representing the political party.

Now Trump has done his fair share to stoke their rage and making this about him helps fuel his mob of supporters...but these protestors with their Mexican flags and "We need more Socialism" posters are hating on America...not just one man.

The most reasoned post of this thread.

[TomSea]

No way does anyone have a right to do this and such comments that it was asked for sounds more like DU; if DT sues people and is famous for it, I hope the city of SJ gets sued big big time. 

[Jazzhead]

Yes American citizens have the right to peacefully assemble; that wasn't my point.  The point is Trump himself created this atmosphere with his attacks on various groups and individuals and his comments about wanting to punch people and his supporters would still support him even if he were to shoot someone on 5th Avenue in NY. His comments against different ethnic groups doesn't help nor the KKK endorsement.  It is his bombastic and narcissistic approach to issues and his violent tone that has drawn citizens against each other; certainly he's not uniting the country.  The country is further divided than ever before. When a presidential candidate lies about others with vicious attacks and makes outlandish comments referencing violence it creates ugliness.  The ugliness has spilled over into violence.  This type of ugliness and violence hasn't been seen in previous election cycles.Trump has brought this about.

I don't condone violence but agree with the above statement - Trump has consciously created the conditions that spawn such violence.   He relishes his reputation as a bully.   Some folks -  especially those specifically targeted by his insults - may choose to fight back.   Simply put, he is reaping what he has sown.   

[bolobaby]

What's always missing from this videos is the context. What happened right before? Did the Trump supporter spit in their face? Maybe the Trump supporter kicked one of them. We don't know because they only show the isolated assault.

I'm not justifying the assault, but context is key. Take the Rodney King beating for example. Taken alone, the video looks really, really bad for the cops. When you put it in context, you start to think, "Well, hell - that high-on-angel-dust, high-speed-chase, threatening the cops jackass sort of asked for it."

So, none of these vids make much sense because they almost always don't show the thing that led up to the assault. For all I know, the guy getting punched could have been stupid enough to spit at the guy and say, "I dare you to punch me you giant Mexican pu$$y!" That right there is going to get you hit, especially when encountering an angry mob of protestors.

Best bet with these feral protestors is to stay away. It's called situational awareness. If you walk up and taunt them, well... it would be like sending swimsuit models in their bikinis into a muslim refugee camp. What do you think will happen? It doesn't excuse the feral muslims, but it's a pretty dumb thing to do.