Author Topic: Is It Getting To Be About the Time When the #NeverTrumpers Should Go Radio Silent?  (Read 12182 times)

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Offline Relic

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Resorting to personal attacks, so like a Trumpfart

Well, I guess I will try the blocking feature after all. Personally attacking me, that will be my litmus test.

You've cut me to the quick.

Your wellspring of content-less Trump attacks tells me you have nothing to add, nothing to debate, your mind is made up. That makes you unimportant. See, there's a basis for my assessment of you.

And you resort to a playground insult. Oh my, I'm not sure I can take it, you're such a wit.

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Personally,  I agree with that.   I don't believe in sitting this one out.  I won't spit the bit.   I've got to make a choice between two horrible candidates,  each poised to impose their own vision of insanity and destruction on this nation.   I've got to decide which one is less dangerous.     

Fascist vs. Socialist.  Damn each and every one of you who have forced me to eat this crapwich.   

#NeverTrump.   

I used your name at some point in this mosh.

I disagree with you, but I respect your ability to choose.  :beer:

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The rest of us - the #NeverTrumps - will continue to put pressure on to attempt to force some change.

Ditto.

I am reminded of an Atlanta mayoral race many years ago.  Former mayor Maynard Jackson decided to run for mayor again back in the early 1990s.  Because of the approaching Olympics, the general consensus was that Jackson would be the best person for the job.  So thorough was his support that no one stood up to run against him.  No one but one man - Hosea Williams. 

Hosea stated right up front that he had zero chance of becoming mayor.  But he also said that it was important to have Jackson commit to certain positions before becoming mayor, and that unless challenged to do so, he would come in to office without having to state a position on anything.  And that was simply unacceptable.

Maynard Jackson won that election, but he did so AFTER stating his position on Pershing Point rezoning, the SR-400 extension, the ongoing water department crisis, and the accessibility of olympic venues in the years following the games, among others.  And he would not have revealed any of this without Hosea Williams challenging his desire to lead.

Hosea Williams earned my respect for that.  He refused to roll over, and instead forced the future mayor to commit.
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Nothing? Do you think his emphasis on better border control, halting sanctuary cities, and better screening of muslim immigrants is justification?

WHAT "emphasis"????? He is now saying those were only "suggestions open to negotiations."

In other words,he is very flexible. He will promote the viewpoints of whoever pays him the most money,because in HIS mind anything that is good for Trump is good for America and the entire world.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2016, 06:15:41 pm by sneakypete »
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How is he going to stop sanctuary cities?  The feds can't command local police departments to enforce the law, and any attempt to link money to those policies will just result in those policies becoming "understood" rather than "explicit".

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That's the best you can do? Construct some kind of false choice? Geez, you weren't even bright enough to assign which bad actor gets which historic villain tag.

Brilliant.

I understand your fear of the truth because it highlights your own lack of character.
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Re: Is It Getting To Be About the Time When the #NeverTrumpers Should Go Radio Silent?
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You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.

So that's how that works. But I do have an imagination, so I can imagine what was posted.

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Re: Is It Getting To Be About the Time When the #NeverTrumpers Should Go Radio Silent?
« Reply #76 on: Today at 02:11:37 PM »

    Quote: You big meanies need to shut up and fall in line and get on those boxcars! Those Trump trains will take America back to the factories where "Work will make us free!".  We'll even help you pack, just ask us, we're the ones wearing the spiffy uniforms! We won't even charge for the train ticket. The bars and locks are for your protection!





 

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How is he going to stop sanctuary cities?  The feds can't command local police departments to enforce the law, and any attempt to link money to those policies will just result in those policies becoming "understood" rather than "explicit".

I wonder how often Rick Scott has been attacked by Trumpers for his support of sanctuary cities since he joined the Trump train....


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You are absolutely unimportant.

So you Trump Believers have repeatedly told us.  Your King Presumptive also said that he does not need Conservatives to win.

So why then, if we are so unimportant and unnecessary does your mob insist that we shut up, sit down and be quiet?

Oh that's right - you're all afraid we're electing Hillary, or that our comments will elect Hillary.

I guess we're not so unimportant, irrelevant and unneeded as your mob of Trumpsters would insist everyone believe.

But ask us if we care what you people in Trump's Republican Workers Party think anymore.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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I oppose both of them. It is possible and legitimate to oppose both.

I think we are wasting our breath. I'm starting to suspect that Trumpettes lack the cognitive abilities to understand that very simple point.

Based on posting history, anyway. They keep coming back with the same crap over and over again, like a talkie doll with a pull cord that only utters a few inane phrases. We provide logical responses - such as yours - and their conclusion is, "Well - you must be supporting Hillary, then!"

They are either dense or purposefully trying to be aggravating.
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http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363703.php

Interesting article. I understand and respect the will and reserve of the nevertrumpers. Just think this article might warrant their input. If it doesn't change your mind that's fine too.

I still think it brings up good points.
There's nothing that anyone can put out there, that will change my mind about Trump.  :smokin: I see him for exactly who he is and everything within my soul screams, he is the wrong man to lead the nation, let alone be in control of all that a President has control of.

The more I read the Bible and get in Gods word, the more I am secure in my belief that Trump is exactly who God warned us about following. ****sheep**** :media:

It's not about being #NeverTrump, for me.  It's about being #AlwaysConstitution.   :patriot: And none of the candidates currently running, ever mention the Constitution, or talk about Constitutional values.  In fact, it's quite the opposite.

To those wanting to quiet or silence opposing views and opinions to Trump as the nominee,  :nometalk: I say, how fascistic of you. **nononono*

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LOL!  There's steam coming off that post.  Good job!

Glad you smelled it too!


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I was initially glad Trump set torch to the Ruling Class Establishment when he first began.  That ended when Trump put torch to anyone who would not kiss his ring and listened to his rhetoric and watched his foam-at-the-mouth faithful go into full beserker mode on various fora.

As to burning it all down - I think the demands that we neverTrump types shut up, coupled with the threats of arrest, hanging and execution for treason out there on social media and the net coming from rabid TRUMP supporters speaks plainly to the whole reason we want nothing to do with your political savior or your mob of the "American Workers Party".

I frankly don't care if I am the only person in the entire country who doesn't seig-heil your King Presumptive.  I won't be supporting him, and will continue to sound the alarm about him and Hillary both.
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You won't be alone @INVAR .

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Isn't it enough to be a loser without being a sore loser?  :silly:

Unlike most of you who see this contest as just another sporting event, Conservatives are indeed sore that the majority of the country wants nothing to do with a Conservative, rejects Conservatism and our founding principles to demand either full-throated Marxist Communism, or vulgar Populist Fascism to be a monarch they want to rule them and punish their enemies.

Yeah… that makes us pretty sore. 

But hey - the country gets what the people demand.   And history teaches that a people unmoored from their religious and foundational heritage are always a people who will demand a tyrant who promises to grant them their grand desires and vow to punish their enemies.

I just won't be taking part in choosing a populist Fascist or a Marxist Communist for Dear Leader.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Trump: Those factory jobs are just a boxcar ride away! Trust me!


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But hey - the country gets what the people demand.   And history teaches that a people unmoored from their religious and foundational heritage are always a people who will demand a tyrant who promises to grant them their grand desires and vow to punish their enemies.


Companies and politicians and voters who don't like Trump are these "enemies". Iran, Russia, North Korea are not Trump's enemies, they can be negotiated with.

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No, based specifically on the names he's floated, and expressed respect for the Heritage Foundation.  Ed Meese -- who was the guy most responsible for Scalia being nominated by Reagan, is still a bigwig there.  It's the one area where I'd bet a large sum he is will better than Hillary.
You do know the names Trump has floated for SCOTUS were given to him by the GOP-E....because he needed something and they wanted him to compromise with them, so he threw them out there to appease the public.  But the very next day, he walked it back.  The man has no convictions.  He has no morals.  He has no principles.  And he has no idea who he's appoint, because "he's never thought about it"....except for when he did suggest his sister.  How anyone, in their right mind, can take Trump seriously, with anything he puts out there, is beyond me.  Not only does he get his ideas, absolutely, from others (like using the entire NRA script from their website, as his 2nd amendment platform, because he has none), but that he walks it back the very next day, every time.  He's unstable, and inconsistent.  And people trust that?

I don't.

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The 2017 film about a New York billionaire's affair with his 15-year old immigrant pool-boy Enrique will win an Oscar.

"Four golden stars!" - New York Observer

"Best pedophile movie ever!" - Bill Clinton

"Loved every second of the love scenes. All 8 seconds." - Jeff Epstein

"The part where the wife puts her foot down and finds herself divorced, deported and penniless in an east bloc nation was awesome." - Marla Maples

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The 2017 film about a New York billionaire's affair with his 15-year old immigrant pool-boy Enrique will win an Oscar.

"Four golden stars!" - New York Observer

"Best pedophile movie ever!" - Bill Clinton

"Loved every second of the love scenes. All 8 seconds." - Jeff Epstein

"The part where the wife puts her foot down and finds herself divorced, deported and penniless in an east bloc nation was awesome." - Marla Maples

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That should be the rallying cry of every political forum. 

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That should be the rallying cry of every political forum.

I agree... that hand has some stubby fingers, BTW

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That should be the rallying cry of every political forum.

The thought that comes to mind is the liberal "protected classes". They must rule over me?

I have criticized Trump on this forum to no end, with no ill effects

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I was initially glad Trump set torch to the Ruling Class Establishment when he first began.  That ended when Trump put torch to anyone who would not kiss his ring and listened to his rhetoric and watched his foam-at-the-mouth faithful go into full beserker mode on various fora.

As to burning it all down - I think the demands that we neverTrump types shut up, coupled with the threats of arrest, hanging and execution for treason out there on social media and the net coming from rabid TRUMP supporters speaks plainly to the whole reason we want nothing to do with your political savior or your mob of the "American Workers Party".

I frankly don't care if I am the only person in the entire country who doesn't seig-heil your King Presumptive.  I won't be supporting him, and will continue to sound the alarm about him and Hillary both.

You won't be alone. 

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Nothing? Do you think his emphasis on better border control, halting sanctuary cities, and better screening of muslim immigrants is justification?

He has since qualified these "promises" by saying they are all opening offers on a 'negotiation'.

That leaves me wishing in one hand and pooping in the other to see which fills up the fastest.

Sorry, I want something a little more concrete.