Is It Getting To Be About the Time When the #NeverTrumpers Should Go Radio Silent?

[Oceander]

I don't accept that. No choosing is a choice. Hammering at Trump endlessly is doing what you can to assist Hillary.

You can remain a coward. You can refuse to choose. But you can't construct your own reality and expect me to accept it.

Voting third party is not refusing to choose.  And standing up for your principles in the face of excoriating slander from Trumpists is moral. 

[Relic]

First, I'm exercising my Freewill to blow my nose in your (I think it was you, anyway) general direction for your prior slanders on a great Canadian band.  And no, I'm not talking about Max Webster.  (If you've never heard of them, you're lucky.)

Second, I'm really torn at this point because I think Hillary may do more damage in the short term, but Trump will do more long-term lasting damage.  That makes the decision tougher than it would be than if I just looked at this election in isolation.

Hey, so I lifted a line. The boys got my money, they are on my ipod.

It's not an easy decision. While I think Hillary is evil personified, I can see where someone would prefer voting Clinton. Jazzhead has said many times he/she would vote Clinton. I disagree with the decision, but I respect the honesty.

The Supreme court is a concern, and I honestly believe that Trump would make better nominations.

[sneakypete]

#NeverTrump doesn't want Trump in the White House. That the Republican voters saddled us with this Cheeto-faced bastard is not our fault.

If you get Hillary, it's YOUR fault.  I will never vote for Donald Trump; he proves daily (i.e, his outburst against Susanna Martinez yesterday) that he is unfit for the presidency.

  Well said,Sir!

[sneakypete]

It's not about fault. It's about what is best. Given the choice of Hillary vs. Trump, you think Hillary is best?

Oh, and by the way, it's not MY fault, I didn't choose Trump. And I don't get Hillary, WE get Hillary.

Who would be the best leader for America,Hitler or Stalin?

For all practical purposes,that IS what you are asking.

[geronl]

If your goal is to damage one candidate, then it follows you necessarily want to help his opponent.

I oppose both of them. It is possible and legitimate to oppose both.

[truth_seeker]

This makes sense.

Honestly, I am capable of acknowledging that he would be the better choice. But so far I haven't heard or seen anything from him that would lead me to believe he would be.

Nothing? Do you think his emphasis on better border control, halting sanctuary cities, and better screening of muslim immigrants is justification?

[Relic]

There was a  time that such would get one called to the dueling ground.

There was a time when there weren't keyboard warriors. Which is worse, one who offends behind the mask of the internet, or one who gets offended and blusters about bold action?

Either way, if it's any consolation, I'd say it to your face.

[geronl]

The Supreme court is a concern, and I honestly believe that Trump would make better nominations.

based on his sister and his disses of Scalia....

[geronl]

Nothing? Do you think his emphasis on better border control, halting sanctuary cities, and better screening of muslim immigrants is justification?

not emphasis, those are negotiating suggestions

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Hey, so I lifted a line. The boys got my money, they are on my ipod.

Nothing wrong with lifting a line, but you also said they were a crappy band, as if they were just .38 Special or something.  Though you did respect the musicianship, so I guess that's some mitigation.

It's not an easy decision. While I think Hillary is evil personified, I can see where someone would prefer voting Clinton. Jazzhead has said many times he/she would vote Clinton. I disagree with the decision, but I respect the honesty.

The Supreme court is a concern, and I honestly believe that Trump would make better nominations.

I agree on all counts.  The Supreme Court is truly a big deal.  I'm just really worried that Trump would otherwise be such a trainwreck in office that after 4 years, the Dems would run the table on his so badly we might never recover.  So, I've honestly got an open mind at this point.  If you track my posts, I've both stuck up for him, and attacked him, depending on how I see the merits of the particular argument.  But it's not easy either way.

I'll say this -- I really, really hope that by the time November rolls around, I can vote for him.

[sneakypete]

Blah blah blah.

Supporting Trump *is* supporting liberalism, genius.

  BTW,neither are liberals. Washington,Jefferson,and Franklin were liberals. Bubbette! is a Marxist and Trump is a fascist. Both are creatures of the radical left.

[Relic]

Not ever.  All that it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to stay silent. 


#NeverTrump

Great. Not voting or voting 3rd party is such a bold statement. I felt like such a rebel voting Perot. In reality, I helped elect Bill Clinton.

If both candidates are so bad, why not add #NeverHillary and attack both?

I suspect I know the answer.

[Jazzhead]

Because this is reality. You can either choose which one, try to figure out to the best of your ability which of them would do the least amount of damage.

Personally,  I agree with that.   I don't believe in sitting this one out.  I won't spit the bit.   I've got to make a choice between two horrible candidates,  each poised to impose their own vision of insanity and destruction on this nation.   I've got to decide which one is less dangerous.     

Fascist vs. Socialist.  Damn each and every one of you who have forced me to eat this crapwich.   

#NeverTrump.   

[sneakypete]

Let's cut to the quick:

WE DON'T CARE!

The choice between a Marxist Communist and a Populist Fascist who just talked about turning the GOP into the "Workers Party" is not a choice we are going to make.

We choose: OTHER.

If this people want their Marxist Communist or their Vulgar Fascist - they will have them as their Dear Leader.

We aren't contributing to either of them.

And there you have it.

[Relic]

Trumpstiks keep finding new and unimaginary ways to say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over....


They tell us we aren't important, they don't need our vote anyway, but they seem obsessed with us at the same time. Then they tell us to shut up, fall in line before they go back to insults.

We are not going to support Trump or Hillary and we aren't going to shut up.

Neither Trump's or Hillary's Worker Parties interest us.

You are absolutely unimportant.

Others, not so much.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

based on his sister and his disses of Scalia....

No, based specifically on the names he's floated, and expressed respect for the Heritage Foundation.  Ed Meese -- who was the guy most responsible for Scalia being nominated by Reagan, is still a bigwig there.  It's the one area where I'd bet a large sum he is will better than Hillary.

[Relic]

Who would be the best leader for America,Hitler or Stalin?

For all practical purposes,that IS what you are asking.

That's the best you can do? Construct some kind of false choice? Geez, you weren't even bright enough to assign which bad actor gets which historic villain tag.

Brilliant.

[geronl]

No, based specifically on the names he's floated, and expressed respect for the Heritage Foundation.  Ed Meese -- who was the guy most responsible for Scalia being nominated by Reagan, is still a bigwig there.  It's the one area where I'd bet a large sum he is will better than Hillary.

Campaign gimmicks.

He was and is a leftist.

[geronl]

You are absolutely unimportant.

Others, not so much.

Resorting to personal attacks, so like a Trumpfart

Well, I guess I will try the blocking feature after all. Personally attacking me, that will be my litmus test.

[sneakypete]

YOU don't care. You are quite full of yourself if you presume to speak for anyone but you.

I bet you complained about the Trump supporters wanting to burn it all down?

What do you get when you mix anger and irony? INVAR

WRONG! Invar also speaks for me when it comes to which bitch to vote for,and judging by the polls that have them both as the most unpopular Presidential candidates in history,for a lot of other people,also.

I'm betting the number of voters will be very low this presidential election because it seems a lot of people want neither.

Not that the RNC or their brothers and sisters in the DNC give a damn. They have rigged the system to where the only "choice" of who to vote for is one Party Insider or another. They ARE the American Politboro that now approves all our presidential candidates.

[Relic]

Nothing wrong with lifting a line, but you also said they were a crappy band.  Though you did respect the musicianship, so I guess that's something.

I said they were a crappy band? Really? Where? I'm slipping. No, I like Rush.

I agree on all counts.  The Supreme Court is truly a big deal.  I'm just really worried that Trump would otherwise be such a trainwreck in office that after 4 years, the Dems would run the table on his so badly we might never recover.  So, I've honestly got an open mind at this point.  If you track my posts, I've both stuck up for him, and attacked him, depending on how I see the merits of the particular argument.  But it's not easy either way.

I'll say this -- I really, really hope that by the time November rolls around, I can vote for him.

There are so many questions about Trump.

There are no questions about Hillary. If she's elected, there will be no going back. America will be the leading socialist state on Earth.

[r9etb]

That's the best you can do? Construct some kind of false choice? Geez, you weren't even bright enough to assign which bad actor gets which historic villain tag.

Brilliant.

Unfortunately, it's not a false choice -- it's a choice between cancers.

Your schtick is tiresome, and really quite ineffective.

[mystery-ak]

Enough of the personal attacks or I will start issuing timeouts...

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Campaign gimmicks.

He was and is a leftist.

I'd say it's probably more accurate to say he's been apolitical.  I don't think he believes in much except Donald Trump.  But I also think that's one reason why he'll go along with the party and nominate one of the folks he's suggested, or someone similar.  I don't think he cares enough to risk cratering his support within the party by doing otherwise.

[sneakypete]

This makes sense.

And in spite of the fact that I utterly despise him I'm willing to vote for him if he gives me a good reason to believe he won't stab me in the back.

Would you settle for just a "good suggestion that is subject to change"?