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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-terror-declaration-war-223497Trump: I may ask Congress to formally declare war to fight terrorBy Nolan D. McCaskill05/23/16 06:36 PM EDTPresident Donald Trump would have no problem asking Congress for a declaration of war to fight terrorism, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly in an interview that will air Monday evening.“It wouldn’t bother me at all doing that,” Trump said, according to a transcript of the interview. “We probably should have done that in the first place.”The real estate mogul said fighting terrorism isn’t the same as traditional war, noting that terrorists don’t wear uniforms and battling extremists isn’t the same as going against a country like Germany or Japan.continued
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL31133.pdfInteresting read about declaration of war vs authorization of use of force
Thank you that was very interesting reading.
WoW a president who wants to follow the Constitution. Amazing.
Saying he wouldn't have a problem asking Congress is not the same as him saying he was obligated to do so. What Trump says has to be parsed as carefully as what Obama says to make sure you're not putting into his statements things that aren't there. Trump most certainly didn't say he was constrained to follow the Constitution, just that he doesn't have a problem doing so if it's consistent with what he's going to do anyway.
Show me the authority to have a Standing army in peace time as well as the use of force language in the US Constitution.
If O'Riley and fox weren't in the tank for King Trumpy a logical question may have been "what is the difference oh mighty Trumpy between a declaration and an authorization, and how would the declaration further help you destroy ISIS? The specific reasons oh mighty Trumpy."
Considering he said this after meeting with Corker it may not go the way you think.
Stop playing with red herrings. Show me proof Trump knows that he is constrained by the Constitution and that he will obey the Consitution. That is the issue.
So Counselor, you remembered from your Constitutional law classes that he is required to ask for a declaration here... There is No authority for the police actions aka limited use of force; there is no authority to have a Standing Army during peace time indefinitely.... It is breath of fresh air to see a president actually wanting to follow the Constitution on this.
Those are established through statute. Do you believe the statutes violate specific language or intent in the constitution?
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;To provide and maintain a Navy;To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
You just love playing with red herrings, don't you. Tell me "counselor" where Trump said he knows he's constrained by the Constitution and that he will abide by those constraints. Or do you believe that it's not possible by definition for the president to violate the Constitution?
Yes Statute is inferior law to the Constitution. U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 Paragraphs 10-15. [/quotEQuote from: Mechanicos on May 24, 2016, 01:46:51 pmYes Statute is inferior law to the Constitution. U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 Paragraphs 10-15. You do realize the appropriation happens annually? Further, are you really suggesting we disban the entire military when things seem peaceful?
Yes Statute is inferior law to the Constitution. U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 Paragraphs 10-15.
Words are just words, Conduct matters more.
Simple question, the same one king Trumpy can't answer.... What will a declaration of war accomplish in the fight against ISIS that authorization won't???? king Trumpy is just trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about. For the record I don't think either of you have an answer
... [A] declaration of war in itself creates a state of war under international law and legitimates the killing of enemy combatants, the seizure of enemy property, and the apprehension of enemy aliens.... With respect to domestic law, a declaration of war automatically triggers many standby statutory authorities conferring special powers on the President with respect to the military, foreign trade, transportation, communications, manufacturing, alien enemies, etc. In contrast, no standby authorities appear to be triggered automatically by an authorization for the use of force,...
