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GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« on: May 17, 2016, 09:49:23 am »
From the Federalist:

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It sure didn’t take long for Republicans in Washington to capitulate to Donald Trump. With the exception of House Speaker Paul Ryan, who is still not ready to endorse the presumptive nominee, the GOP establishment got on board the Trump train with little hesitation.

“He was terrific. I’ll tell you, I was really quite impressed,” said Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, who promptly endorsed Trump. “Voters are always right,” said Texas Sen. John Cornyn on Friday, adding he was “impressed” by Trump and that Republicans should fully support him. After the meeting, the senators all “took turns taking a photo with Trump, with the presumptive nominee giving a thumbs-up in all the pictures.”

The GOP establishment has decided, in other words, to make a deal with the dealmaker. Maybe they’ve concluded they have no choice now but to rent the party to Trump. Or, what’s more likely, they see how Trump is pulling in Democrats and Independents, and they believe a realignment is underway that could lead to victory in November and a stronger Republican Party than before. If the new GOP has to shed some of its scruples about spending and entitlements and foreign policy, fine. They will follow Chris Christie into the night.

In that case, all that’s left to do is to get those stubborn conservatives and Tea Party types to drop their #NeverTrump nonsense and fall in line.


Those darned Tea Party types. How dare they want government constrained by the Constitution?

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 10:48:26 am »
From the Federalist:


Those darned Tea Party types. How dare they want government constrained by the Constitution?
I am Tea Party, Christian, Constitutionalist, Conservative. It is my learned opinion that #neverTrump, an operation created by funded by and manged by Democrats and Establishment types, lies to people in order to maintain their power and wealth. Exit polls showed that more conservatives, Evangelicals etc voted for Trump than Cruz. It is also my learned opinion Cruz was a dishonest phoney. Apparently the majority of Primary voters agree with me. 
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 10:54:27 am »
I am Tea Party, Christian, Constitutionalist, Conservative. It is my learned opinion that #neverTrump, an operation created by funded by and manged by Democrats and Establishment types, lies to people in order to maintain their power and wealth. Exit polls showed that more conservatives, Evangelicals etc voted for Trump than Cruz. It is also my learned opinion Cruz was a dishonest phoney. Apparently the majority of Primary voters agree with me.

Wrong on all counts.
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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 10:56:28 am »
Wrong on all counts.
You just keep telling yourself that.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 11:00:11 am »
I am Tea Party, Christian, Constitutionalist, Conservative. It is my learned opinion that #neverTrump, an operation created by funded by and manged by Democrats and Establishment types, lies to people in order to maintain their power and wealth. Exit polls showed that more conservatives, Evangelicals etc voted for Trump than Cruz. It is also my learned opinion Cruz was a dishonest phoney. Apparently the majority of Primary voters agree with me.
Why this fixation on Cruz? He is not in the race.

As for Constitutionalist, where does Trump's health care plan line up (Article and Section please)? [I list that as an example]

I certainly don't see "taking care of everybody" as  being listed in the Constitution (except for the Dems really twisted interpretation of the preamble)

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 11:13:11 am »
Obama's not even out of office and they've already found someone else they can surrender to.
nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!!!

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 11:17:03 am »
Why this fixation on Cruz? He is not in the race.

As for Constitutionalist, where does Trump's health care plan line up (Article and Section please)? [I list that as an example]

I certainly don't see "taking care of everybody" as  being listed in the Constitution (except for the Dems really twisted interpretation of the preamble)
Trump is constitutional in such areas as the 2nd Amendment, BLM (feds), EPA, Education, Religion, National security, etc. On health care we do not agree 100 percent but I can see where hes coming from. His plan has 2 parts: 1 it calls for freeing up the market and creating competition to expand the market and drive down costs for the vast majority of Americans.

2 is the part I do not like but can see why he looks at it that way. The homeless, Illegals, very poor etc already get and have been getting free medical care - such as by  abusing emergency rooms etc for everything. We already pay for that and because its chaotic ad hoc its much more costly to us then normal routine health care costs. From what I understand he is talking about expanding medicare to that group, which we pay for now anyway, as a cost containment strategy. 

Is that Constitutional? No. Obviously not. Its a reasoned cost containment strategy. Hopefully, with the eviction of the foreign parasite class, deregulation and local education it may be a temporary thing.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 11:18:39 am »
Trump is constitutional in such areas as the 2nd Amendment, BLM (feds), EPA, Education, Religion, National security, etc. On health care we do not agree 100 percent but I can see where hes coming from. His plan has 2 parts: 1 it calls for freeing up the market and creating competition to expand the market and drive down costs for the vast majority of Americans.

2 is the part I do not like but can see why he looks at it that way. The homeless, Illegals, very poor etc already get and have been getting free medical care - such as by  abusing emergency rooms etc for everything. We already pay for that and because its chaotic ad hoc its much more costly to us then normal routine health care costs. From what I understand he is talking about expanding medicare to that group, which we pay for now anyway, as a cost containment strategy. 

Is that Constitutional? No. Obviously not. Its a reasoned cost containment strategy. Hopefully, with the eviction of the foreign parasite class, deregulation and local education it may be a temporary thing.
I'm glad to see you looking at this rationally.

My point is that as long as the federal government is usurping power that hasn't been delegated to it, we have a problem.

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 11:20:42 am »
I'm glad to see you looking at this rationally.

My point is that as long as the federal government is usurping power that hasn't been delegated to it, we have a problem.
I agree. it took them generations to get us to this point. We have to start somewhere.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 11:58:08 am »
The GOP leadership is interested in winning. Winning at all costs.

Principles and support for the Constitution aren't even secondary goals anymore ... they are just window dressing to attract those voters who still care about such things.

Under Donald Trump, the defacto head of the GOP, the Republican party will now support:
- the murder of babies whose fathers are guilty of rape or incest
- the Kelo decision and the grabbing of private property to increase the size of government
- gay "marriage"
- increasing the tax burden on the wealthy, a step that is clearly in support of socialism


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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2016, 12:01:45 pm »
Not very "learned" in my view. Show me where you find #neverorangeman funded by Democrats? This stance is by those who will not be duped by the pied piper degenerate. Personally I have never been a fan of Cruz, but he would have been a thousand times better than trump. Now, tell me, is it your "learned" opinion that trump is a con man? Because if you answer "no", it is just more proof of your opinion not being "learned" but rather "shilling" for a con man, willfully saying the most outlandish things to justify trump's degenerate actions, spiteful words, juvenile behavior, blatant lying, shortcoming of anything requiring intellectual ability, and extreme narcissistic, if not mentally unstable, personality.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=liberals+secretly+meat+with+rnc+to+stop+trump&ei=UTF-8

many urls to choose from.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2016, 12:06:27 pm »
I agree. it took them generations to get us to this point. We have to start somewhere.

And with someone who actually recognizes and acknowledges the problem.

Unfortunately there's now no one by that description in this race.

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2016, 12:10:51 pm »
I said show Show me where you find #neverorangeman funded by Democrats? and you post a search from yahoo as  using the above key words as your "learned" response.  :shrug:
Because I know liberals love to play attack the messenger so I gave you a chance to act like an adult and you failed. That search listed pages of articles on the what was supposed to be secrete meeting between super rich liberals and RNC leadership to create their "stop Trump" strategy. But then you do not want truth, it makes you uncomfortable to know you were used like this.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2016, 12:19:02 pm »
Because I know liberals love to play attack the messenger so I gave you a chance to act like an adult and you failed. That search listed pages of articles on the what was supposed to be secrete meeting between super rich liberals and RNC leadership to create their "stop Trump" strategy. But then you do not want truth, it makes you uncomfortable to know you were used like this.

I went back and read the first sentence of your post and realized that your answer is right in front of you, yet you refuse to see it.  You wrote " Because I know liberals love to play attack the messenger so I gave you a chance to act like an adult and you failed."  Trump (who is a liberal) loves to play attack the messenger.  He has been given a chance to act like and adult and has FAILED!

You yourself recognize that Trump is a liberal who attacks others like a fifth grade bully.  That his reputation.  He also has a reputation that he has absolutely no clue about government or the Constitution. 

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2016, 12:21:31 pm »
Because I know liberals love to play attack the messenger so I gave you a chance to act like an adult and you failed. That search listed pages of articles on the what was supposed to be secrete meeting between super rich liberals and RNC leadership to create their "stop Trump" strategy. But then you do not want truth, it makes you uncomfortable to know you were used like this.

Whats funny is that despite all the opposition, Trump appears more and more electable every day.

From what I heard this morning, a majority of Republicans have lined up as his supporters.

The rest need to get on board to assure a defeat for Hillary R. Clinton.
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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2016, 12:25:05 pm »
Obama's not even out of office and they've already found someone else they can surrender to.

EXACTLY!  republicans are easily recognizable - they are the dithering idiots with their hands in the air searching frantically for somebody, ANYBODY to whom they can surrender - no matter the circumstance nor issue!

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2016, 12:27:12 pm »
I agree. it took them generations to get us to this point. We have to start somewhere.

BY doubling down on a demagogue who treats the Constitution like he does Holy Communion ("I eat my little cracker")?   



 
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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2016, 12:32:27 pm »
The rest need to get on board to assure a defeat for Hillary R. Clinton.

No.
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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2016, 12:40:48 pm »
I went back and read the first sentence of your post and realized that your answer is right in front of you, yet you refuse to see it.  You wrote " Because I know liberals love to play attack the messenger so I gave you a chance to act like an adult and you failed."  Trump (who is a liberal) loves to play attack the messenger.  He has been given a chance to act like and adult and has FAILED!

You yourself recognize that Trump is a liberal who attacks others like a fifth grade bully.  That his reputation.  He also has a reputation that he has absolutely no clue about government or the Constitution. 

#NeverTrump

Noted you ignored evidence that #neverTrump is a phoney conservative operation created by, funded by and managed by Liberals and Rinos to keep their power.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2016, 12:42:33 pm »
"Meat"?
You were the only one to catch that.

 :beer:
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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2016, 12:50:44 pm »
Noted you ignored evidence that #neverTrump is a phoney conservative operation created by, funded by and managed by Liberals and Rinos to keep their power.

You forgot to mention it's for suckers.  :laugh:

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2016, 12:55:51 pm »
I'd rather lose an election than lose my soul. 

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Re: GOP Leaders Surrender To Trump
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2016, 12:57:37 pm »
You forgot to mention it's for suckers.  :laugh:

Well, I'll concede that Trumpsters are THE authorities on falling for cons.   
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