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Offline Mechanicos

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Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« on: May 16, 2016, 03:03:29 am »
Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'

From the article: Donald Trump is the Republican presumptive nominee, but ... you'll read articles urging voters never to support him. Ignore them.

Many of these Trump opponents are principled people. Some fear Trump, ... they believe ... that America and its institutions, ... cannot endure a Trump presidency....

... Trump's most vocal opponents -- prefer a president they can control... Trump is a wild card, and in a race between the devil they know and the one they don't, they'll take Hillary Clinton every time. Another four years of a Democratic president is, after all, good for business. And they aren't hiding it. Some ... have already declared themselves "Ready for Hillary."

... These anti-Trump factions ask Americans to withhold their vote or call on the GOP to commit mass political suicide and pursue a ... more "mainstream" candidate.... even though Trump has swept to victory in states as diverse as Alabama and Massachusetts, and even though mass defections ... will hand the election to Clinton and the Democrats.

Those who argue that another Clinton White House is somehow preferable to ... Trump are blind to the consequences -- for the nation, for the party and for the conservative movement.

A Clinton presidency means a Supreme Court with ... maybe three new liberal justices.

It means a doubling down on the Obama foreign policy that fostered the resurgence of a belligerent Russia, the rise of ISIS and chaos across the Middle East.

It means government agencies from the EPA, IRS, DHS, ... staffed by Clinton appointees, enshrining the executive overreach of the Obama administration into law.

... it means liberalism in ascendancy. We cannot allow GOP elites to hand the future to an increasingly leftist Democratic Party. The country simply has too much to lose. Trump's voters understand that.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/07/opinions/never-trump-risks-electing-hillary-clinton-opinion-talley/index.html

Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2016, 03:04:26 am »
Never Trump = Ready for Hillary.
Goodbye Second Amendment. Hello Socialist state. It’s as simple as that.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2016, 03:06:10 am »
Never Trump = Ready for Hillary.
Goodbye Second Amendment. Hello Socialist state. It’s as simple as that.

:bigsilly:


Donald Trump is a New York City liberal, just like Clinton.  Trump is Clinton.  So the only people who have given us "ready for hillary" are the benighted fools who gave us Donald Trump.


Run around like a little girl, shrieking "Oh, but Donnie said he was going to make America great again," "oh but Donnie promised me I'd get a nice big wall to keep out all the meanies," ......
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2016, 03:35:43 am »
We will not be cowed by the false dichotomy of those who keep squealing, “But if you don’t vote for Trump, Hillary will win!” Nonsense. If, God forbid, Hillary becomes our next president, that’s the fault of the people who voted for her. Likewise, if, God forbid, Trump becomes the next president, that won’t be on the consciences of those who didn’t vote for Hillary; that eventuality will be the responsibility of those who voted for Trump. We’re only responsible for what we do, not what others do.
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 03:51:08 am »
Never Trump = Ready for Hillary.
Goodbye Second Amendment. Hello Socialist state. It’s as simple as that.

This must be an example of that 'quality' you were telling me about 'Doctor".

Fail.

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 04:13:48 am »
Trump, The Mao Pantsuit - Nationalist Populist Fascism vs Marxist Communism

No difference in terms of how either one of those puppets of the Oligarchy gets the throne in terms of what is left of your liberty.

Both of them talk punishment for those citizens and institutions they hate.  Both of them rile up the masses into foaming frenzies.  Both camps are declaring their desire for their king/queen to be dictator.

Yet so many stuff their ears with fingers and false hopes and refuse to even digest what their own demagogues for Dear Leader are saying.

We had a coup.  You pretended it didn't happen.  You are going to continue to lie to yourselves that your votes count even when it is self-evident your vote is irrelevant.

And you'll continue to berate and attempt to shame those who refuse to bend the knee to your King Presumptive.

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 11:27:26 am »
Fail.
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2016, 12:40:17 pm »
Bleah.

Yet another 'lesser evil' argument.
Knock yourself out.

I vote for Conservatives. End of story.

Now, if you want to argue between Constitution Party and AIP candidates, well then we have something to talk about.

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2016, 12:43:44 pm »
Bleah.

Yet another 'lesser evil' argument.
Knock yourself out.

I vote for Conservatives. End of story.

Now, if you want to argue between Constitution Party and AIP candidates, well then we have something to talk about.

#neverTrump is not about conservatives. Its about protecting the Globalist ruling class. Look at who leads it, funds it and writes its talking points.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2016, 04:23:13 pm »
How to lose credibility while posting:
1. Trump is never wrong.
2. Default to the most puerile emoticon you can find. This is especially useful when you can't win an argument on merits.
3. Be falsely ingratiating, completely but politely dismissive without talking to the points, and bring up Hillary whenever the conversation is really about conservatism.
4. When all else fails, remember rule #1 and #2. Emoticons are like the poor man's tweet!

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2016, 04:36:37 pm »
#neverTrump is not about conservatives. Its about protecting the Globalist ruling class. Look at who leads it, funds it and writes its talking points.

Trump is as likely to protect the "globalist ruling class" as Clinton -  the evidence is that's he's been a part of the establishment for as long as the Clintons have.

Your mania has rendered your posts meaningless, Mechanicos.   You've gone straight off the deep end into the fever swamps.   

Conservatives of principle, of whom there are many on this site,  will continue to oppose Trumpism.   
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2016, 04:43:07 pm »
#neverTrump is not about conservatives. Its about protecting the Globalist ruling class. Look at who leads it, funds it and writes its talking points.

Meh. Not my concern. I vote for Conservatives. To compromise my standards and vote for Trump -Perhaps the single most unfit candidate of my lifetime - would make me part of the problem.

To be part of the solution is simple - Every ill that befalls this country finds it's solution in a return to Conservatism. Hence, voting Conservative is the answer every time.

So unless you support a Conservative, It's really no truck of mine. Nor will it ever be, regardless of any tortured logic, like you 'lesser evil' article presents.

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2016, 04:45:07 pm »

From the article: Donald Trump is the Republican presumptive nominee, but ...


Hopefully that will change.  There's still time.
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2016, 04:50:23 pm »
Hopefully that will change.  There's still time.
The convention will be interesting. Trump may self-destruct by then. He was stupefied when Cruz and Kasich dropped out- when reality hit him in the face. I don't think he ever thought his publicity stunt would get this far.
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2016, 04:53:56 pm »
#neverTrump is not about conservatives. Its about protecting the Globalist ruling class. Look at who leads it, funds it and writes its talking points.

Another Trumpkin created bogey man to prop up and knock down. Trump is the ruling class, and he'll negotiate everything away to make a deal.
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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2016, 05:01:39 pm »
Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'


Trump's backers should've thought of that before nominating him.  His candidacy is the most potent weapon the "Ready for Hillary" crowd could've ever wished for.

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2016, 05:04:18 pm »
#neverTrump is not about conservatives.

And nominating Trump never was about conservatism, nor was it about winning in November.  The goal of the "Trump uber alles" crowd was, is, and always will be the destruction of the GOP. 

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2016, 05:06:51 pm »
The convention will be interesting. Trump may self-destruct by then.

Nah... the self-destruction will begin the day after the RNC. 

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2016, 05:12:58 pm »
Trump is as likely to protect the "globalist ruling class" as Clinton -  the evidence is that's he's been a part of the establishment for as long as the Clintons have.

Your mania has rendered your posts meaningless, Mechanicos.   You've gone straight off the deep end into the fever swamps.   

Conservatives of principle, of whom there are many on this site,  will continue to oppose Trumpism.
People who voted for the Democrat Kaisch have shown a substantial cognitive impairment on what Conservative and Establishment are.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: Don't let 'Never Trump' become 'Ready for Hillary'
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2016, 05:17:57 pm »
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A Clinton presidency means a Supreme Court with ... maybe three new liberal justices.

A Trump presidency means a Supreme Court with ...  maybe someone else who supports the Kelo decision and others with big government sympathies