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IF he loses....it means the Republican Party is indeed, in the dustbin of history.  For no other Republican named Cruz, or otherwise would be able to 'combat' the leftward media complex against Hillary Clinton.

Trump is Obiwan Kanobe....he's our ONLY hope.   (To slow the advance toward a dissolution of our Constitutional Republic)
This is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read and at the same time the most untrue. Trump is P.T. Barnum.
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This is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read and at the same time the most untrue. Trump is P.T. Barnum.

While I may not agree with you DC; I definitely don't find your comments stupid - far from it. 
Romans 12:16-21

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Can anyone picture Cruz doing any of these things?

Trump's last 24 hours:
-Attacked dead soldier's family
-Trashed 4-star general
-Lied about NFL & Koch Bros.
-Accused fire marshal of bias

Cruz has intelligence.  Trump is just a plain, bombastic, narcissistic, clueless low life.
Romans 12:16-21

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Can anyone picture Cruz doing any of these things?

Trump's last 24 hours:
-Attacked dead soldier's family
-Trashed 4-star general
-Lied about NFL & Koch Bros.
-Accused fire marshal of bias

He's back to work in the Senate; too bad we don't have more Senators doing what we elected them to do.

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_releases

Meanwhile ... Trump continues to make a complete AZZ out of himself.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Can anyone picture Cruz doing any of these things?

Trump's last 24 hours:
-Attacked dead soldier's family
-Trashed 4-star general
-Lied about NFL & Koch Bros.
-Accused fire marshal of bias

No, I could not imagine Cruz making these gaffes.

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IF he loses....it means the Republican Party is indeed, in the dustbin of history.  For no other Republican named Cruz, or otherwise would be able to 'combat' the leftward media complex against Hillary Clinton.

Trump is Obiwan Kanobe....he's our ONLY hope.   (To slow the advance toward a dissolution of our Constitutional Republic)

No, he's full of Sith.
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Trump is Obiwan Kanobe....he's our ONLY hope.   (To slow the advance toward a dissolution of our Constitutional Republic)
If you wish to place a real Republic in the hands of a fictional character, you have done well.

Impressive, most impressive...
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I find his lack of taste disturbing.
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I find his lack of taste disturbing.

Agreed. Trump is a disturbing person and lacks any sense of decorum. In addition, he can't even form complete sentences and continually repeats himself when trying to make a point. It also seems he cannot speak on any issue in depth because he just flat out lacks the knowledge. 

He is definitely unfit to be our Commander in Chief; yet there are still those avid Trump supporters who refuse to see him for what he is; a bombastic, narcissistic, psychopath.

Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Can anyone picture Cruz doing any of these things?

Trump's last 24 hours:
-Attacked dead soldier's family
-Trashed 4-star general
-Lied about NFL & Koch Bros.
-Accused fire marshal of bias

Posting cheesecake photos of his opponent's wife  (oh, wait!)

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I disagree with your choice of terms!  I would have said "pathetically UNWILLING to distinguish themselves from the jackasses."

Welcome aboard!

I agree wholeheartedly with your change in wording.

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IF he loses....it means the Republican Party is indeed, in the dustbin of history.  For no other Republican named Cruz, or otherwise would be able to 'combat' the leftward media complex against Hillary Clinton.

Trump is Obiwan Kanobe....he's our ONLY hope.   (To slow the advance toward a dissolution of our Constitutional Republic)

You make the best argument (GOP in the dustbin of history) for voting for Hillary I have seen yet.

The Republican Party represents a greater danger to our republic than either Hillary or Trump.  As shown in this thread, the GOP seduces patriots into believing they are the antidote to liberal poison... To his dismay, the patriot finds himself poisoned by the false cure after it's too late.

Destroy the GOP.  make room for a true conservative party to rise.

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You make the best argument (GOP in the dustbin of history) for voting for Hillary I have seen yet.

The Republican Party represents a greater danger to our republic than either Hillary or Trump.  As shown in this thread, the GOP seduces patriots into believing they are the antidote to liberal poison... To his dismay, the patriot finds himself poisoned by the false cure after it's too late.

Destroy the GOP.  make room for a true conservative party to rise.
Check out the Constitution Party, if you haven't.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,214526.msg0.html#new
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The Republican Party represents a greater danger to our republic than either Hillary or Trump. 
Destroy the GOP.  make room for a true conservative party to rise.

Liberal Trump has already shown himself to be on the McConnell, Boehner RINO GOPE wing of the Gone Old Party. I can hardly wait for the real conservative party to show up, because someone like Trump wouldn't have a seat at the table.

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Check out the Constitution Party, if you haven't.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,214526.msg0.html#new

I have - they have the right positions, but they have no chance at the moment.  They will benefit greatly from the lying, oxygen sucking GOP's eventual crash.

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I have - they have the right positions, but they have no chance at the moment.  They will benefit greatly from the lying, oxygen sucking GOP's eventual crash.
I don't expect any sweeping victories, not this time. But as for building a party, if not now, when? The GOP isn't getting any more conservative, the Dems won't provide any satisfaction, so I'm going to do what I can to get the Constitution Party out there. If not all the States, as many as possible, and to let people know there is an alternative to the Libertarian Party which is a tad libertine for me.
Besides, getting people to realize things are NOT working as intended could help push the pendulum back.

I am a firm believer that the people at the top have to be intelligent, functional 24/7 on a moment's notice, and at least someone who answers the phone has to be sober enough to make coffee.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

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My main political focus now is destroying the GOP before they and the dims destroy the country - and they are well on the way.  The Constitution Party will have room to grow with the GOP dead - and as long as the GOP lives, the CP will exist only in the shadow and the sidelines.  Remember, the GOP grew out of the fertilizer of the dead Whig Party.

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You make the best argument (GOP in the dustbin of history) for voting for Hillary I have seen yet.

The Republican Party represents a greater danger to our republic than either Hillary or Trump.  As shown in this thread, the GOP seduces patriots into believing they are the antidote to liberal poison... To his dismay, the patriot finds himself poisoned by the false cure after it's too late.

Destroy the GOP.  make room for a true conservative party to rise.

The only fly in that "vote for Hillary" ointment is that the destruction of the GOP will be irrelevant in a post-Hillary US.

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The only fly in that "vote for Hillary" ointment is that the destruction of the GOP will be irrelevant in a post-Hillary US.

As it will in a post Trump USA!
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Liberal Trump has already shown himself to be on the McConnell, Boehner RINO GOPE wing of the Gone Old Party. I can hardly wait for the real conservative party to show up, because someone like Trump wouldn't have a seat at the table.

Keep in mind that with a Hillary win we will see the Supreme Court heavily tilted toward the left. Amnesty will be granted to millions and  those that are granted amnesty will be voting for the left giving the DEMS a very prominent advantage in future elections (if we make it that far).  So even IF a very strong conservative party emerges from the ashes of the GOP party ... their chances of winning because of the sheer numbers of new DEM voters are slim to none.  After many years and several election cycles we almost took our country back and our party back with Cruz leading the way.  Trump's objective was to keep that from happening.  So in reality, many years of hard work towards conservatism was destroyed.  It's going to take many many years of hard work to get to that point again, if ever. 

Cruz was absolutely 100% correct; those who bolstered Trump ARE responsible for what happens going party.  He stopped a conservative from being nominated, he further splintered the party, he made a mockery out of the debates, he made a mockery out of the primary process and he has made fools out of millions of his supporters.

Also keep in mind that with a Trump victory the outcome will be the same.
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As it will in a post Trump USA!


Yeah, we disagree a bit on that, Bigun.  I think that Hillary will be worse than Trump.  She's organized and has the press, academia and the "globalists" behind her.  Trump isn't and doesn't to the extent that she does.


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Today in the MI primary I will be voting against any fool who thinks its wise to try to run on Trump's coattails.

Basically that means voting against Doug North in the 7th district primary. The guy is a democrat running as a republican and pushing Dennis Kucinich's failed NEED Act and making America great again as central issues of his campaign.

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Why?  Do you think any congress is going to stop President Clinton?

If anyone seriously wants to stop her, the last chance is on November 8.

The most cognizant comment in 50+ pages of echoed-chamber, deluded, self-perpetuating, drivel from self-righteous #NeverTrumpers.

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Yeah, we disagree a bit on that, Bigun.  I think that Hillary will be worse than Trump.  She's organized and has the press, academia and the "globalists" behind her.  Trump isn't and doesn't to the extent that she does.

I understand where your coming from Sanguine, but Trump is also marching to Clinton's drum.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.