Cruz: Those who bolstered Trump 'will bear that responsibility going forward'

[MajorClay]

No he is NOT in favor of banning assault weapons. You're either misinformed or intentionally misleading. Yes, the truth is the truth. You sure don't have a corner on it.

Prove It!  Document his position exactly.

[INVAR]

Quote from: Mechanicos on Today at 08:50:12 AM
Yet #neverTrumps leadership and funding is far from Conservative. Its far left Billionaires and Establishment Rinos. In other words, its a mile wide but has no conservative depth fed and supported by the left.

Huh?   

The True Believers for Trump insist that you and I are being paid by far Left billionaires and Establishment politicians, because they assume everyone must be bought because principles do not exist.  Of course the statement is laughable coming from an acolyte of the cult of personality that has FUNDED the Clintons and myriad far Left agenda items even as recently as a couple years ago.

[mountaineer]

Yet #neverTrumps leadership and funding is far from Conservative. Its far left Billionaires and Establishment Rinos. In other words, its a mile wide but has no conservative depth fed and supported by the left.

What funding? To whom, exactly?

[INVAR]

What funding? To whom, exactly?

The meme is that anyone who does not vote for Trump and vocalizes their problems and issues with the King Presumptive, is an obviously paid shill of Hildabeast's campaign and the Left.

Because conformity is demanded, and if you refuse to conform behind Trump, you must be receiving bribes from Hillary and work for the enemy…  so they tell us ad nauseum.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The meme is that anyone who does not vote for Trump and vocalizes their problems and issues with the King Presumptive, is an obviously paid shill of Hildabeast's campaign and the Left.

I don't think  you're a paid shill.  I think you're promoting Hillary's victory for free .... because you want her in the WH.  This is most likely why you were thrown off FR.   

[sinkspur]

I don't think  you're a paid shill.  I think you're promoting Hillary's victory for free .... because you want her in the WH.  This is mostly likely why you were thrown off FR.   

This is what passes for healing rifts.  Trump supporters who come right out and say that anyone who doesn't vote for their boy wants Hillary in the White House. 

Your continued ass-hattery is driving me further into the #NeverTrump camp.    You're not playing to Trump's audience, RIV, so insults don't work here.  In fact, you're vastly outnumbered on this forum and look to be flailing.

[Mechanicos]

Huh?   

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/gop-tech-leaders-hold-secret-meeting-stop-trump-171532249.html?ref=gs
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/08/gop-establishment-money-funding-mark-levin-glenn-beck-erick-erickson-to-attack-trump/

#neverTrump Cruz people being lead around by the nose by these people. Not a one of which is Conservative or is acting in your best interests.

[DCPatriot]

This is what passes for healing rifts.  Trump supporters who come right out and say that anyone who doesn't vote for their boy wants Hillary in the White House. 

Your continued ass-hattery is driving me further into the #NeverTrump camp.    You're not playing to Trump's audience, RIV, so insults don't work here.  In fact, you're vastly outnumbered on this forum and look to be flailing.

She's not "flailing", Sink. 

She handles 'pompous' just like you and I.   Not very well.

[don-o]

#neverTrump Cruz people being lead around by the nose by these people. Not a one of which is Conservative or is acting in your best interests.

That tired old, worn out, brain dead insult is not getting any traction, regardless of how many times you regurgitate it. 

[Mechanicos]

That tired old, worn out, brain dead insult is not getting any traction, regardless of how many times you regurgitate it. 

Yet looking at the line ups: On the Trump side until he won the Nomination we had Patriots, Conservatives and Evangelicals in very large numbers. On the #neverTrump side  is Liberals, Hillary, Muslims, Illegals, Soros. Establishment RINOS, China, etc.  and a small spattering of Cruz supporters.

The fact is #neverTrump began as a joint Liberal/Establishment operation that had nothing to do with morals or conservatism. And, to this day its propaganda sources are left wing MSM, Far left publications and bought and paid for shills like Red State, Beck and Levin. One need only look at the #neverTrump leadership such as Romney to see its not about conserving anything but the ruling class. So yes, Led around by the nose fits.

[INVAR]

I don't think  you're a paid shill.  I think you're promoting Hillary's victory for free .... because you want her in the WH.  This is most likely why you were thrown off FR. 

So wrong on so many counts.

I don't want either the Nationalist Populist Fascist OR the Marxist Communist Mao Pantsuit in the WH.

And I was not thrown off FR.  I left of my own accord.  So again - dead wrong on all counts.

[INVAR]

The fact is #neverTrump began as a joint Liberal/Establishment operation that had nothing to do with morals or conservatism. And, to this day its propaganda sources are left wing MSM, Far left publications and bought and paid for shills like Red State, Beck and Levin.

Right, because Mark Levin is a bought and paid for shill by the Establishment and the Far Left.

Discounts anything you have to say in the name of Conservatism - because you not only do not recognize what Conservatism actually is - you hate and have gone war and make it your every effort to smear, insult and castigate every single Conservative who doesn't bend the knee to your King Presumptive.

In short - I believe you are simply projecting what you actually are, onto everyone who will not fall in line behind Trump.

Clever Political tactic that doesn't work on the Principled.

[txradioguy]

Yet #neverTrumps leadership and funding is far from Conservative. Its far left Billionaires and Establishment Rinos. In other words, its a mile wide but has no conservative depth fed and supported by the left.

I'm sure you have credible proof of this right?

[Mechanicos]

I'm sure you have credible proof of this right?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,206352.msg892568.html#msg892568

[RetBobbyMI]

Yet looking at the line ups: On the Trump side until he won the Nomination we had Patriots, Conservatives and Evangelicals in very large numbers. On the #neverTrump side  is Liberals, Hillary, Muslims, Illegals, Soros. Establishment RINOS, China, etc.  and a small spattering of Cruz supporters.

The fact is #neverTrump began as a joint Liberal/Establishment operation that had nothing to do with morals or conservatism. And, to this day its propaganda sources are left wing MSM, Far left publications and bought and paid for shills like Red State, Beck and Levin. One need only look at the #neverTrump leadership such as Romney to see its not about conserving anything but the ruling class. So yes, Led around by the nose fits.

Your argument makes no sense what so ever. What Patriots and conservatives did Trump have before? I wouldn't mix Cruz supporters with all those other supporters. That is apples and oranges different.
And as I pointed out before you keep associating #NeverTrump with liberals. That is asinine. Of course the left doesn't want Trump, because they have their own idiots to follow. The conservative right isn't buying Trump as one of ours and thus never that idiot.

[libertybele]

If we get back to the original premise of the article; Cruz was treated unfairly in the GOP primary and  everyone who was responsible for the rise of Donald Trump, will bear that responsibility going forward.  There is no going back, we should focus on moving forward...  Ensuring that we vote in as many conservatives as we can on the ballot.  There are 34 Senate seats up for election and the DEMS only need 5 seats to take back the majority.  All 435 House seats will be up for election.  Reality is we have 535 members of Congress.  Let's make them work for us!

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2016
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_elections,_2016

Cruz.  Reigniting the Promise of America!

[Sanguine]

If we get back to the original premise of the article; Cruz was treated unfairly in the GOP primary and  everyone who was responsible for the rise of Donald Trump, will bear that responsibility going forward.  There is no going back, we should focus on moving forward...  Ensuring that we vote in as many conservatives as we can on the ballot.  There are 34 Senate seats up for election and the DEMS only need 5 seats to take back the majority.  All 435 House seats will be up for election.  Reality is we have 535 members of Congress.  Let's make them work for us!

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2016
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_elections,_2016

Cruz.  Reigniting the Promise of America!

Exactly right, @libertybele !  And, work within the states to take power away from the feds.

[Right_in_Virginia]

This is what passes for healing rifts. 

When you want to heal the rift, Sink, you'll meet me half way.  Ping me when you're ready. 

[sinkspur]

When you want to heal the rift, Sink, you'll meet me half way.  Ping me when you're ready.

YOU come my way, missy. I'm not voting for, supporting, or advocating for Donald Trump.  Ever.

If we can heal the rift with that clear understanding, I'm ready to listen.

[RetBobbyMI]

The rift with Trump is more than just him.  He has hijacked an already broke GOP.  Trump along with his GOP partners of McConnell, Boehner, Ryan, Preibus and the like can have their party.  Again. It is not JUST Trump. 

[DCPatriot]

The rift with Trump is more than just him.  He has hijacked an already broke GOP.  Trump along with his GOP partners of McConnell, Boehner, Ryan, Preibus and the like can have their party.  Again. It is not JUST Trump.

That's nonsense.

The GOP pushed Bush...then Rubio...then accepted Cruz.   The same "Cruz" who was openly disdained by the Party Leadership of both Chambers.

More than once.

You should light a candle in front of the Baby Jesus tonight that there IS a Donald Trump grabbing the reins of this runaway stage called the Republican Party.

And while all you Trotskyites are willing to push European Socialism on us...just because you can't accept that "your boy" (as Sink is inclined to say), lost.

I would have liked a candidate with Cruz' commitment to the Constitution, and a strong Conservative judiciary.   

I'll accept a man who will, ...economically return us to 1985.  When Reagan's Boom...the greatest in American History, was just entering 2nd gear.

Won't you?   

[sinkspur]

That's nonsense.

The GOP pushed Bush...then Rubio...then accepted Cruz.   The same "Cruz" who was openly disdained by the Party Leadership of both Chambers.

More than once.

You should light a candle in front of the Baby Jesus tonight that there IS a Donald Trump grabbing the reins of this runaway stage called the Republican Party.

And while all you Trotskyites are willing to push European Socialism on us...just because you can't accept that "your boy" (as Sink is inclined to say), lost.

I would have liked a candidate with Cruz' commitment to the Constitution, and a strong Conservative judiciary.   

I'll accept a man who will, ...economically return us to 1985.  When Reagan's Boom...the greatest in American History, was just entering 2nd gear.

Won't you?   

Trade wars will cripple the economy.  Surely you know that.

Trump doesn't know the first thing about the economy, except as a means to drag you saps into supporting him.  His tariffs won't pass muster with Congress, and his tax plan, with it's $10 trillion added to the debt, is DOA.

When those Sanders voters go back to Hillary, Trump will never be ahead in another poll from now until November.

[DCPatriot]

Trade wars will cripple the economy.  Surely you know that.

Trump doesn't know the first thing about the economy, except as a means to drag you saps into supporting him.  His tariffs won't pass muster with Congress, and his tax plan, with it's $10 trillion added to the debt, is DOA.

When those Sanders voters go back to Hillary, Trump will never be ahead in another poll from now until November.

With the deepest respect, I was thinking more along the lines of simply repealing all Obama regulations put into effect during his tenure...thereby freeing American small business to thrive...translating into jobs.

[alicewonders]

That's nonsense.

The GOP pushed Bush...then Rubio...then accepted Cruz.   The same "Cruz" who was openly disdained by the Party Leadership of both Chambers.

More than once.

You should light a candle in front of the Baby Jesus tonight that there IS a Donald Trump grabbing the reins of this runaway stage called the Republican Party.

And while all you Trotskyites are willing to push European Socialism on us...just because you can't accept that "your boy" (as Sink is inclined to say), lost.

I would have liked a candidate with Cruz' commitment to the Constitution, and a strong Conservative judiciary.   

I'll accept a man who will, ...economically return us to 1985.  When Reagan's Boom...the greatest in American History, was just entering 2nd gear.

Won't you?   

They probably won't DC.  These people's minds are set in concrete and nothing we can say will be accepted.  They have said "Never" and I take them at their word - all we are doing is stirring up their hurt and anger.  Let them gnash their teeth and tear at their clothes - they're not going to change.   

But I'd bet that if Ted Cruz was in Trump's place now - and he was working with the establishment in trying to help the down-ticket candidates in raising money for the party's fight against Hillary and the Democrats - there would be no cries of "He's working with the establishment now - after pretending to be an outsider!"

 

[RetBobbyMI]

They probably won't DC.  These people's minds are set in concrete and nothing we can say will be accepted.  They have said "Never" and I take them at their word - all we are doing is stirring up their hurt and anger.  Let them gnash their teeth and tear at their clothes - they're not going to change.   

But I'd bet that if Ted Cruz was in Trump's place now - and he was working with the establishment in trying to help the down-ticket candidates in raising money for the party's fight against Hillary and the Democrats - there would be no cries of "He's working with the establishment now - after pretending to be an outsider!"

I don't think Cruz is a fit within the GOP. He is a true conservative patriot and you can see by the rancor within the GOP that they no longer appreciate the values embodied by the party of Lincoln. Cruz is only in the GOP because of the artificial restriction maintained by the two party elitests.