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What Democratic Landslide?
« on: May 11, 2016, 03:26:43 pm »
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/what-landslide/482088/


What Democratic Landslide?

A group of new polls released Tuesday shows a surprisingly close race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

     Russell Berman May 10, 2016 Politics

Warning: Candidates in this election may be closer than they appear.

To listen to the handwringing from despondent Republicans and the self-assurance from exultant Democrats over the last week, a Hillary Clinton landslide defeat of Donald Trump in November seemed a fait accompli. On Tuesday morning, however, the release of a group of polls put a damper on that forecast—at least for a few hours until the next ones come out.

The swing-state surveys from Quinnipiac University and a national snapshot from Public Policy Polling, a left-leaning firm, show a surprisingly close general-election race. The PPP survey found Clinton leading Trump by just four points nationally, 42 percent to 38 percent, while Quinnipiac found the two essentially tied in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Trump edged Clinton by four points in the Buckeye State, and Clinton led him by a point in Florida and Pennsylvania. As with any poll taken six months before the election, these require a couple grains of salt, and in the case of Quinnipiac, perhaps a few more. Other political forecasters pointed out that its sample of voters in the three states was more white than in 2012 exit polls, while the electorate is expected to be similar in 2016 if not more diverse than four years ago. A sample with more white voters would favor Republicans.

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Re: What Democratic Landslide?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 03:54:12 pm »
The horses are not even in the starting gate. Polls I am interested in show me who is leading for  238 electoral votes.


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Re: What Democratic Landslide?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 03:57:11 pm »
The horses are not even in the starting gate. Polls I am interested in show me who is leading for  238 electoral votes.
Ironically because of the combination of what $neverTrump people complain about Trump and the real dislike of Clinton several blue states and all swing states will be in play. 
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Re: What Democratic Landslide?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2016, 02:29:50 am »
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Warning: Candidates in this election may be closer than they appear.

Clever.   :laugh:

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Re: What Democratic Landslide?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2016, 02:43:32 am »
Ironically because of the combination of what $neverTrump people complain about Trump and the real dislike of Clinton several blue states and all swing states will be in play.
Just remember something: there are a number of blue states where it always looks more competitive than it actually turns out to be. Pennsylvania's infamous for it: the candidates get bogged down there, only to end up having it fall to the Dems every time.

There were polls in 2012 near the election that were showing Romney dead-even, even slightly ahead with Obama in PA, Michigan and Wisconsin—the states the GOP is going to have to win back if it's going to stay viable as a national party. I think Obama won WI by 10.

The ONLY thing holding Trump in this race is that Hillary Clinton is so hated by her own party, especially when Bernie represents the heart and soul of their party (pie-in-the-sky "democratic" socialism).
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