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The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« on: May 10, 2016, 04:16:27 pm »
SOURCE: http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2016/05/10/the-scariest-reason-trump-won-n2160658

BY DENNIS PRAGER

There are many reasons why Donald Trump is the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. The four most-often cited reasons are the frustrations of white working-class Americans, a widespread revulsion against political correctness, disenchantment with the Republican establishment, and the unprecedented and unrivaled amount of time the media afforded Trump.

They are all valid.

But the single biggest reason is this: The majority of Republicans are not conservative.

Conservatives who opposed Trump kept arguing -- indeed, provided unassailable proof -- that Trump is not a conservative and has never been one. But the argument meant little or nothing to two types of Republicans: the majority of Trump voters who don't care whether he is a conservative, and the smaller number of Trump voters who are conservative, but care about illegal immigration more than all other issues, including his many and obvious failings.

So, then, what happened to the majority of Republicans? Why aren't they conservative?

The answer lies in America's biggest -- and scariest -- problem: Most Americans no longer know what America stands for. For them, America has become just another country, a place located between Canada and Mexico.

But America was founded to be an idea, not another country. As former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher put it: "Europe was created by history. America was created by philosophy."

Why haven't the past three generations of Americans known what America stands for?
The biggest reason is probably the influence of left-wing ideas.

Since its inception, the left has opposed the American idea, and for good reason. Everything the American idea represents undermines leftist ideas. And the left, unlike most Americans, has always understood that either the left is right, or America is right.

America stands for small government, a free economy (and therefore, capitalism), liberty (which therefore allows for its inevitable consequence: inequality), the melting pot ideal and a God-centered population rooted in Judeo-Christian values (so that a moral society is created by citizens exercising self-control rather than relying on the state to impose control).

Only America was founded on the idea of small government. But the left is based on big government.

America was founded on the principle that human rights come from the creator. For the left, rights come from the state.

America was founded on the belief that in order to maintain a small government, only a God-fearing people can ensure a decent country. The left opposes God-based religions, particularly Judeo-Christian religions. Secularism, as much as egalitarianism, is as at the core of leftism.

The American Revolution, unlike the French Revolution, placed liberty above equality. For the left, equality is more important than all else. That's why so many American and European leftists have celebrated left-wing regimes, from Stalin to Mao to Guevara to Castro to Chavez, no matter how much the regimes squelched individual liberty. They all preached equality.

It took generations, but the left has succeeded (primarily through the schools, but also through the media) in substituting its values for America's.

While the left has been the primary cause, there have been others.

The most significant is success.

American values inspired so much success that Americans came to take that success for granted. They forgot what made America uniquely free and affluent. And now, it's not even accurate to say they forgot because the current generation never knew. While schools (starting with the universities) were being transformed into institutions for left-wing indoctrination, American parents ceased teaching their children
SOURCE: http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2016/05/10/the-scariest-reason-trump-won-n2160658

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American values (starting with not reading them the most popular book in American history: the Bible).

Schools even stopped teaching American history. When American history is taught today, it is taught as a history of oppression, imperialism and racism. Likewise, there is essentially no education on civics, once a staple of the public school system. Young Americans are not taught the Constitution or how American government works. I doubt many college students even know what "separation of powers" means, let alone why it is so significant.

So, then, thanks to leftism and America's taken-for-granted success, most Americans no longer understand what it means to be American. Those who do are called conservatives because they wish to conserve the unique American idea. But conservatives now constitute not only a minority of Americans, but a minority of Republicans. That is the primary reason Donald Trump -- a nationalist, but not a conservative -- is the presumptive of Republican nominee.

As I noted from the outset, I will vote for him if he wins the nomination -- because there is no choice. But the biggest reason he won is scary.
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 08:11:03 pm »
But the single biggest reason is this: The majority of Republicans are not conservative.

BANG!
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 08:16:59 pm »
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Why haven't the past three generations of Americans known what America stands for?
The biggest reason is probably the influence of left-wing ideas.
A dumbed-down public school system that aims to indoctrinate rather than educate.
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 08:53:09 pm »
BINGO! 

Not only are Prager's points documented and correct, the other truth that was an ugly revelation is that we Reagan Conservatives are a tiny minority.  More than half the population see nothing wrong with Socialism or Communism and ALMOST half say that Conservatives are "morally evil".

Liberty cannot exist long in the environment this country has become.

It doesn't matter if it's The Mao Pantsuit or Il Duce Trump, the vast majority of the population sees the presidency as a monarchy/dictatorship and they care not a whit about the Constitution or the Declaration.

They will happily burn them both upon the mere promises of gifts and sustenance and punishment for those they have been taught to hate.

There is no difference between either party, or either 'candidate' the Ruling Class Oligarchy will crown next January.
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2016, 12:42:58 am »
So, then, what happened to the majority of Republicans? Why aren't they conservative?

The answer lies in America's biggest -- and scariest -- problem: Most Americans no longer know what America stands for. For them, America has become just another country, a place located between Canada and Mexico.

But America was founded to be an idea, not another country. As former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher put it: "Europe was created by history. America was created by philosophy."

There's the core of the piece.
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2016, 12:47:30 am »
Again, the Wall was a huge reason for Trump jumping out to his early lead. In many primaries he only got about 35-40% of the vote, and I think it was all the people for whom The Wall was THE!!  issue.  Cruz has also talked about the need for stronger border enforcement, but Trump was the loudest. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that.
I don't think many of the Trump people are stupid or evil or something like that. Many of them are good conservatives who think  building the wall overwhelms all other issues. And I can't blame them, because unrestricted immigration will destroy this country.
But they've chosen the worst person to represent their cause. Trump fails on virtually every other issue. He sure knows how to demagogue, I'll give him that.

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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2016, 01:02:12 am »
Well, they claim to be conservative but the evidence is turning up something different.  Look at FreeRepublic for an example.  They are NOT the conservatives they have claimed to be.  Look at Phyllis Schlafly.  Ann Coulter (that one has been revealed to be a fraud for a while now). 

Well, let me put it this way... there are people who will only focus on ONE or TWO issues and the rest can be ignored.

Ann Coulter (together with man of the FReepers ) consider illegal immigration and jobs lost to China and Mexico to be the two paramount issues that top their concern. They will support anyone who pledges to tackle these two issues and will  overlook any other liberal tendencies they have.

Ann Coulter in fact said this in her Twitter post :
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2016, 01:22:21 am »
goatprairie wrote above:
"I don't think many of the Trump people are stupid or evil or something like that. Many of them are good conservatives who think building the wall overwhelms all other issues. And I can't blame them, because unrestricted immigration will destroy this country..."

I'm one of those folks of whom you speak above.

Immigration and the muslim putsch to rule the world ARE the most important issues for me.

You yourself write (of folks like myself), "they are good conservatives who think building the wall overwhelms the other issues".

And in the next sentence, you forcefully assert "unrestricted immigration will destroy this country".

If you believe this to be true, how can you NOT side with "the Trump people", who believe (in your very own words) that "unrestricted immigration will destroy this country" ...?

Do you wish for the wall NOT to be built, and FOR unrestricted immigration which WILL eventually "destroy" the country?

Do tell.
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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2016, 02:18:34 am »

Do you wish for the wall NOT to be built, and FOR unrestricted immigration which WILL eventually "destroy" the country?

Do tell.

Are you going to be willing to empower and enable a dictatorship to occur so that fear of yours can be addressed the way you want it to be addressed?

Is discarding the Constitution and Conservative foundational principles for Progressive Fascist Populism acceptable if it promises to stop unrestricted immigration by mere words?

Do tell.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2016, 03:57:53 am »
Invar wrote:
"Are you going to be willing to empower and enable a dictatorship to occur so that fear of yours can be addressed the way you want it to be addressed?
Is discarding the Constitution and Conservative foundational principles for Progressive Fascist Populism acceptable if it promises to stop unrestricted immigration by mere words?"


What does any of this blather have to do with establishing a border and enforcing it?

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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2016, 04:04:32 am »


Do you wish for the wall NOT to be built, and FOR unrestricted immigration which WILL eventually "destroy" the country?

Do tell.

You are aware that your Diety Donny is putting a "Big, beautiful door" in the wall because he is for Touch-back Amnesty? That means that all the illegals here stealing American jobs just have to head home and come right back again.

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Re: The Scariest Reason Trump Won
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2016, 04:37:23 am »
But the single biggest reason is this: The majority of Republicans are not conservative.

BANG!
If dominant aspects  of said conservatism include "no exceptions" opposition to abortions, and opposition to same sex unions, then yes.

If you mean law & order, sound borders, strong national defense, prosperous free economy, my guess is those goals will sell.
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