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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2016, 01:25:42 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 01:05:13 am
Drama queen central here tonight.

My guy lost...so the world is over, the party has gone immoral and demons are runnin' wild in the streets. Oh my!

Good gravy, Chicken Little.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2016, 01:26:05 am »
Quote from: musiclady on May 04, 2016, 01:02:58 am
We had a chance to turn the tide on Progressivism with Cruz, and instead we embraced a true Progressive in Donald Trump.

The left has won.

The country is over.

Yep. I won't take part in it. I'll go politically Galt before I back that buffoon.

I'm a conservative which means I *can't* vote for Trump.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2016, 01:26:33 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 01:21:21 am
The next President will be Hillary Clinton or Not Hillary Clinton. Your vote will be part of what decides that.



The truth is my vote will have no effect.   I live in the Reddest state in the US.   Oklahoma.  The state that voted every county against Obama last time.   My vote will only effect me.  I can lower myself, my standards.... abandon my values and beliefs and vote for Hillary or King Trumpy..... or I can sit it out.  Me sitting it out will have no impact on the election.   But, I'm not going to abandon my beliefs and values just because the crazies nominated King Trumpy to run against Hitlery.    Not ever going to happen.  I'm not voting for either of them.....
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2016, 01:26:53 am »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on May 04, 2016, 01:23:25 am
No, #NeverTrump.  You think we will change our minds.  Think again.  Why would a vote for a loony tune like Trump?  The guy is nuts.  I still plan on writing in Cruz.

I'm going with the 'Bert candidate if he is on my state ballot. If not then I will write in Ted.

However as gracious as the trumpansies are in victory... I may vote for Hillary as the lessor of two weasels.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2016, 01:27:31 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 01:05:13 am
Drama queen central here tonight.

My guy lost...so the world is over, the party has gone immoral and demons are runnin' wild in the streets. Oh my!

Good gravy, Chicken Little.

Good luck with your election thingy. And, God forbid, administration thingy.

We'll see who is squawking later. We'll also see who will be able to say, "Don't blame me."
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2016, 01:28:29 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 12:59:45 am
No. What you had was a candidate who could win the 20% of Americans who are Evangelical conservatives...with no chance whatsoever of winning a general election. Now, there's a chance...it'll be a very tough fight with the AlwaysHillaryRepubs (who call themselves NeverTrumps) taking their ball and going home. But the chances are still vastly better than a Cruz ticket would have had.

What we had was a principled conservative. The rightful inheritor of the Tea party movement which secured the House and the Senate for the Republican party. Trump supporters fell for the shiny thing lying in the gutter and abandoned all semblance of principle in their effort to grab it. Win or lose conservatives could've held their head up in a Cruz v. Clinton match up. Some people are not willing to sell their soul for a cult of personality and a potential win in 2016. To think that so-called conservatives could be taken in by a fraud who says, "through the sheer force of my personality I can take the reigns of the federal government and make it do by bidding," is pathological. And they will suffer for it, either in a Clinton or a Trump victory. Problem is, we all will pay for it as well.

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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2016, 01:29:01 am »
Quote from: kjam22 on May 04, 2016, 01:26:33 am
The truth is my vote will have no effect.   I live in the Reddest state in the US.   Oklahoma.  The state that voted every county against Obama last time.   My vote will only effect me.  I can lower myself, my standards.... abandon my values and beliefs and vote for Hillary or King Trumpy..... or I can sit it out.  Me sitting it out will have no impact on the election.   But, I'm not going to abandon my beliefs and values just because the crazies nominated King Trumpy to run against Hitlery.    Not ever going to happen.  I'm not voting for either of them.....

Same situation here.

Oklahoma. I guess we both have an easy path on this one.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2016, 01:29:10 am »
Quote from: Fantom on May 04, 2016, 01:23:11 am
For small government conservatives...Hillary may just be the lessor of two weasels.

That's your call of course.

But there's a reason the Left intensely hates Trump, and it ain't 'cause he's just like Hillary on the issues.

I'll walk away from this discussion, as its pointless to try and talk down someone who thinks Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are not vastly separated by their stances on nearly every major issue. Its just not a reasonable position you're asserting, its an emotional one...and nobody can talk you out of your emotions. Nor should they try.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2016, 01:29:57 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 01:05:13 am
Drama queen central here tonight.

My guy lost...so the world is over, the party has gone immoral and demons are runnin' wild in the streets. Oh my!

Good gravy, Chicken Little.

My guy lost the primary and I will have to look for a new candidate. It won't be the degenerate twins of Trump and Hillary, that is for certain.

I am also hoping to help the Constitution Party get a foothold in this state.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2016, 01:30:42 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 04, 2016, 01:13:45 am
Cut your nose to spite that already-hidden face. 

And possibly hand the nation to the Commies in the process.

Nice....

Run along, sport.

Bzzt - team Trump is wholly to blame for the hole they dug for themselves. The #NeverTrump crowd was quite clear for the get-go. Sorry you couldn't figure that out.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2016, 01:30:44 am »
The line forming outside Trump's door extends down the hallway...it's the GOPe waiting to speak to The Godfather.   

Don't forget to kiss his ring.  :laugh:
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2016, 01:32:34 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 01:29:10 am


Trumps own behavior on the campaign trail, his own flip-flops, his own statements, his own vulgar nastiness tells me everything I need to know about him, plus his own sordid, corrupt, perverted history just adds on top of that.

I wouldn't spit on him if he were on fire.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2016, 01:33:26 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 04, 2016, 01:30:44 am
The line forming outside Trump's door extends down the hallway...it's the GOPe waiting to speak to The Godfather.   


Trump was never an outsider, that was just one of a million lies he has told.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2016, 01:34:09 am »
Quote from: geronl on May 04, 2016, 01:32:34 am
Trumps own behavior on the campaign trail, his own flip-flops, his own statements, his own vulgar nastiness tells me everything I need to know about him, plus his own sordid, corrupt, perverted history just adds on top of that.

I wouldn't spit on him if he were on fire.

That pretty well sums it up.....
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2016, 01:34:33 am »
Quote from: kjam22 on May 04, 2016, 01:22:34 am
I think the only real difference between Hillary and King Trumpy..... is she wears larger jackets......

Trump did it.  He bought the Presidency.

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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2016, 01:35:41 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 04, 2016, 01:30:44 am
The line forming outside Trump's door extends down the hallway...it's the GOPe waiting to speak to The Godfather.   

Don't forget to kiss his ring.  :laugh:

How apropos. And just a reminder why I will not vote for Scam Wow. 

I wonder, is it too early to speak of impeachment should trump somehow win? Beware Ceasar.. the Ides of March as this may well be something the GOPE and democrats can agree on.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2016, 01:35:49 am »
Quote from: bolobaby on May 04, 2016, 01:30:42 am
Bzzt - team Trump is wholly to blame for the hole they dug for themselves. The #NeverTrump crowd was quite clear for the get-go. Sorry you couldn't figure that out.

So childish, just plain rank immaturity.

Think, man. If every supporter of every candidate takes a Never_____ approach to the candidate who wins the primaries...than our party will be divided and lose every election. Its not a matter of ethics, its a matter of common sense and intellect. As was said, you cut off your face to spite your nose...and you're reply about "being quite clear" just confirms that your doing so. Look in the mirror when Hillary appoints the next 3 SCJ...because THAT will be "quite clear" as well, and have clear consequences for Evangelicals and Conservatives alike for a very long time.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2016, 01:36:49 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 04, 2016, 01:11:34 am
I have both...and three daughters to boot. Two who are now grown and very successful young ladies, and another who's in a Gifted program here in Arizona. So you see, I'm not the boogey-man you seem to think I am...and neither is Mr. Trump. Not everyone who is ethical and moral is an Evangelical Christian. And our party cannot limit itself to leaders who only come from that background. Its disturbing that you see anyone not fitting your own profile as a degenerate. As for degradation of women, that's just plain ridiculous. The man has daughters who adore him and who are strong, successful women in their own right...how is that degrading?

I never saw you as a "bogey man" Mesaclone.  Only deluded and deceived.

But I do love how you bring in that I-hate-Evangelical-Christian rot into the discussion.

Are you going to ask me again how old I think the earth is so you can tell me how stupid Christians are?

Donald Trump IS a degenerate.  That may not bother you (obviously, it doesn't), but it bothers a lot of people, Christian and non-Christian alike.

It seems that the only one who imagines 'bogeymen' in the world is you.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2016, 01:37:16 am »
What does this say about the people who believe that DT is the answer to America's concerns.
Who among us speaks to their friends, co workers, neighbors in the manner that DT did to all those with whom he disagreed.

Do you speak to your parents, your children, your in laws in such a disrespectful manner.

Does being rich mean that society's norms don't apply to you?

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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2016, 01:39:03 am »
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2016, 01:39:53 am »
Quote from: geronl on May 04, 2016, 01:33:26 am
Trump was never an outsider, that was just one of a million lies he has told.

But that was probably the biggest lie.

Mr Establishment, Donor class pretending to be an 'outsider.'

It's unbelievable that so many fell for it.  Some of them intelligent people too....    **nononono*
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2016, 01:40:08 am »
Quote from: musiclady on May 04, 2016, 01:36:49 am
I never saw you as a "bogey man" Mesaclone.  Only deluded and deceived.

But I do love how you bring in that I-hate-Evangelical-Christian rot into the discussion. Nowhere did I express any hatred to Evangelicals

Are you going to ask me again how old I think the earth is so you can tell me how stupid Christians are? That would depend upon your answer.

Donald Trump IS a degenerate.  That may not bother you (obviously, it doesn't), but it bothers a lot of people, Christian and non-Christian alike. Sounds a lot like casting the first stone to me. And I'm not "OK" with it, I simply disagree with your subjective assertion that he is a "degenerate".

It seems that the only one who imagines 'bogeymen' in the world is you. You all but accused me of supporting the degradation of women. I can assure nobody you'll meet loves and respects women more than this father of three.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2016, 01:40:21 am »
 
Quote from: musiclady on May 04, 2016, 01:36:49 am
I never saw you as a "bogey man" Mesaclone.  Only deluded and deceived.

But I do love how you bring in that I-hate-Evangelical-Christian rot into the discussion.

Are you going to ask me again how old I think the earth is so you can tell me how stupid Christians are?

Donald Trump IS a degenerate.  That may not bother you (obviously, it doesn't), but it bothers a lot of people, Christian and non-Christian alike.

It seems that the only one who imagines 'bogeymen' in the world is you.


Yep, they just do not see it.  :beer:
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2016, 01:40:25 am »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on May 04, 2016, 01:26:00 am
Yes it is.  Those who supported the LJ/Howard Sternish candidate own this.  I want nothing to do with it.

Same.
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Re: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race
« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2016, 01:40:32 am »
Mescalone.........did your daughter's father ever suggest that she has a great figure and if she wasn't my daughter I would date her?

Do I have to be an evangelical Christian to find that comment troubling. 
I have daughters too, nice to know yours are brilliant and gifted, but I cannot imagine their father thinking about dating them.  Does yours?
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