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Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic

“A Cruz loss in Indiana means lights out.”
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The endgame of the 2016 primary campaign looms out west in California, the final big state on which the remaining presidential candidates are pinning their hopes. But to get there, they'll first have to make it through Indiana, where things aren’t looking so good for Ted Cruz. The Texas senator is pretty nearly finished if he cannot beat Donald Trump in the winner-take-all Hoosier state, whose delegates could easily set the Republican front-runner on a glide path to clinch the nomination. Cruz has been talking confidently about winning Indiana and ultimately denying Trump the delegates he needs to win a majority, triggering a contested convention. “At this point, no one is getting to 1,237. I’m not getting to 1,237 before the convention, but neither is Donald Trump,” Cruz said this weekend in California. But internally, his team is reportedly beginning to worry that its candidate is just one loss away from defeat.

According to several staffers who spoke to Politico, Cruz is nervous about the outcome of Indiana, where Trump has a significant lead. (The latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll, released Sunday, has Trump a whole 15 points ahead of Cruz.) One senior aide said that while the campaign hadn't discussed dropping out before the final round of primaries, which includes California, on June 7, Cruz wouldn't be likely to stay in if there was no longer any chance for him to win. “A Cruz loss in Indiana means lights out,” Scott Reed, the chief political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, told Politico. “Game, set, match.”

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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 12:43:59 am »
Well, anyway you cut it..a Cruz loss means we lose our country and he knows it. I pray for him and for this country.  He is under tremendous pressure.  Let's face it.  He is taking on the Washington establishment, anti-Christians, anti-Constitutionalists, and multi-billionaires. Personally, I can't think of anyone I have admired more in recent years than Cruz.  Even IF he loses, he has won in so many ways; he has never wavered on his core beliefs, he can still look himself in the mirror, he has his family, his integrity and above all else, his faith. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 12:45:54 am »
It's over IMO. We're all in with Trump. Now the Trumpites need to close their big mouths and put up or SHUT UP!!!

Win us the election in November or bleep off.

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 12:49:13 am »
It's over IMO. We're all in with Trump. Now the Trumpites need to close their big mouths and put up or SHUT UP!!!

Win us the election in November or bleep off.

"Win us the election"?  WTF, you're going to need to leave you basement and vote.  Or you get to "close your big mouth".

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 12:53:35 am »
"Win us the election"?  WTF, you're going to need to leave you basement and vote.  Or you get to "close your big mouth".

Peace.

I will vote for whomever is best suited to beat Hillary, most likely this means Trump. At least as far as the Primary is concerned, Trump is unbeatable and his fans were simply not persuaded by anything we said. Maybe we failed, maybe Trump fans failed, maybe Trump was the right choice and we were wrong all along. But now we are all in with Trump.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 12:55:58 am »
I will vote for whomever is best suited to beat Hillary, most likely this means Trump. At least as far as the Primary is concerned, Trump is unbeatable and his fans were simply not persuaded by anything we said. Maybe we failed, maybe Trump fans failed, maybe Trump was the right choice and we were wrong all along. But now we are all in with Trump.

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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 01:01:05 am »
At least as far as the Primary is concerned, Trump is unbeatable and his fans were simply not persuaded by anything we said.
This is the third straight primary where the wrong guy won. Admittedly this is the closest we've come to actually having a chance to correct this at the convention, but the GOP primary process is broken. The things we look for are broken. Our priorities are broken. Our expectations are wrong.

The state is increasingly becoming oppressive and we have both sides wanting to wield the oppression of the state in their own way. Why can't the American people just leave each other alone? We have businessmen being threatened with fines and indoctrination because they don't want to serve people against their beliefs. We have a government that now thinks they can compel people to buy a private product and take away the money anyway when they refuse. Both candidates support those things, both unprecedented before Obama. The power of the state is expanding at an alarming pace.

Heck, I feel so strongly about it that if I were eligible (I'm too young this time around), I'd be throwing my hat into the ring right now. I don't care how little money I have. We need a change in direction and neither candidate is providing it.
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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 01:16:29 am »
??? Cruz hasn't lost yet.  As for being all in for Trump...there is no way.  When a presidential candidate demeans and demoralizes women and makes bombastic statements, such as he could punch someone in the face, or shoot someone and still have supporters and doesn't want to let Muslims refugees into the country and then states letting in rich Muslims would be ok, says he's rethinking building the wall and needs to be more establishment, NO, my opinion of Trump is NOT wrong.  Trump is a hollow drum.  He says what he needs to say in order to win; he lacks substance and most importantly he lacks integrity and dignity.

Trump represents the exact opposite of Cruz.  Cruz represents honor, respect, intelligence and above all else integrity...all characteristics needed to be a great president.  Trump represents vulgarity, deception, corruption, and above all else narcissism...all characteristics of a president who will collapse not only our party but the country.

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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2016, 01:20:06 am »
"Win us the election"?  WTF, you're going to need to leave you basement and vote.  Or you get to "close your big mouth".

Peace.

Like hell. You are the folks telling us he can bridge the gap between all these groups and pick up million of disaffected Rat voters. He doesn't need my Conservative vote or my money (he is self funding don'tcha know). That being the case, if Donny Cheetos Face gets the GOP nomination not only will I get out of my basement and vote, I will vote for the strongest candidate that can beat Trump and supply that candidate with dirty money Donny doesn't want.

Your candidates wants the spend the last 4 months trashing Cruz with lies and by association his supporters, he can fend for his wrinkle old ass himself.

Remember: WALL!!!!

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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2016, 02:39:05 am »
Weird wrote:
"I will vote for whomever is best suited to beat Hillary, most likely this means Trump. At least as far as the Primary is concerned, Trump is unbeatable and his fans were simply not persuaded by anything we said. Maybe we failed, maybe Trump fans failed, maybe Trump was the right choice and we were wrong all along. But now we are all in with Trump."

An interesting and thoughtful comment.

You, sir, are both a realist and a pragmatist.

And that's a good thing!

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2016, 02:44:36 am »
j myrle wrote above:
"The things we look for are broken. Our priorities are broken. Our expectations are wrong."

Perhaps it's your "expectations" that are wrong.

But when the voters who vote in the primaries are electin' someone you think "is the wrong guy", maybe it's time to re-examine why you believe their choice is wrong.

"The state is increasingly becoming oppressive and we have both sides wanting to wield the oppression of the state in their own way. Why can't the American people just leave each other alone? We have businessmen being threatened with fines and indoctrination because they don't want to serve people against their beliefs. We have a government that now thinks they can compel people to buy a private product and take away the money anyway when they refuse. Both candidates support those things, both unprecedented before Obama. The power of the state is expanding at an alarming pace."

There's only one way to stop that.
And it ain't via the ballot box.

Actually, there -might- remain one peaceful way to stop it -- through an Article V Convention of the States. Would you support such a move? What say you?

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2016, 11:31:11 am »
Like hell. You are the folks telling us he can bridge the gap between all these groups and pick up million of disaffected Rat voters. He doesn't need my Conservative vote or my money (he is self funding don'tcha know). That being the case, if Donny Cheetos Face gets the GOP nomination not only will I get out of my basement and vote, I will vote for the strongest candidate that can beat Trump and supply that candidate with dirty money Donny doesn't want.

Your candidates wants the spend the last 4 months trashing Cruz with lies and by association his supporters, he can fend for his wrinkle old ass himself.

Remember: WALL!!!!

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I just watched Trump on ABC,his dyed brass-yellow mullet casting a glare under the lights,  ranting about "Lying Ted", and making his usual curiously effete gestures with those undersized hands.  It made me think about his appearance on Sunday with Chris Wallace, when he called Cruz the biggest liar in the world.

There is no damned way on this earth I will ever support that bag of sleaze.  I'll watch the attack ads the Democrats unveil, and I'll laugh my rear off.


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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2016, 01:03:09 pm »
... but the GOP primary process is broken.

I couldn't agree with you more.  In a primary election, where the purpose is to determine who that party's candidate will be, it makes no sense at all to allow someone who is not a member of that party to have a say in the matter.  Joe Schmoe can't walk in off the street and vote his conscience at a corporation's Executive Board meeting where they set the road map for their company for the upcoming fiscal year.  Joe Democrat should not be able to do so in the Republican presidential primary, either.

Open primaries and/or primaries where you can change your party affiliation at the polling place need to go.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2016, 01:05:52 pm »
Like hell. You are the folks telling us he can bridge the gap between all these groups and pick up million of disaffected Rat voters. He doesn't need my Conservative vote or my money (he is self funding don'tcha know). That being the case, if Donny Cheetos Face gets the GOP nomination not only will I get out of my basement and vote, I will vote for the strongest candidate that can beat Trump and supply that candidate with dirty money Donny doesn't want.

Your candidates wants the spend the last 4 months trashing Cruz with lies and by association his supporters, he can fend for his wrinkle old ass himself.

Remember: WALL!!!!

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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2016, 01:13:30 pm »
"Win us the election"?  WTF, you're going to need to leave you basement and vote.  Or you get to "close your big mouth".

Peace.

Us?   There's no "us" anymore.   If Trump is the nominee of the Republican party, then it has left me, just as the Democratic party left Reagan.   I won't reconcile with Trumpism,  I will fight it.   
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2016, 01:14:04 pm »
Like hell. You are the folks telling us he can bridge the gap between all these groups and pick up million of disaffected Rat voters. He doesn't need my Conservative vote or my money (he is self funding don'tcha know). That being the case, if Donny Cheetos Face gets the GOP nomination not only will I get out of my basement and vote, I will vote for the strongest candidate that can beat Trump and supply that candidate with dirty money Donny doesn't want.

Your candidates wants the spend the last 4 months trashing Cruz with lies and by association his supporters, he can fend for his wrinkle old ass himself.

Remember: WALL!!!!


Exactly.  I'll vote third party or I'll write someone in.  I won't vote for a lying liberal, said I won't vote for either Trump or Clinton. 


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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2016, 01:22:30 pm »
Us?   There's no "us" anymore.   If Trump is the nominee of the Republican party, then it has left me, just as the Democratic party left Reagan.   I won't reconcile with Trumpism,  I will fight it.

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Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
 
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
 
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
 
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
 
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1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
 
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
 
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
 
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
 
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
 
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
 
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
 
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
 
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
 
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
 
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
 
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
 
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
 
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
 
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
 
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
 
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
 
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
 
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
 
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
 
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
 
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
 
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
 
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
 
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
 
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
 
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
 
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
 
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
 
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
 
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
 
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
 
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
 
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
 
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
 
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
 
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
 
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
 
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
 
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
 
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
 
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
 
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
 
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
 
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2016, 01:26:37 pm »
Bigun,  you may well be right.  Trump's bromance with Putin is truly disturbing. 
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2016, 01:28:46 pm »
Us?   There's no "us" anymore.   If Trump is the nominee of the Republican party, then it has left me, just as the Democratic party left Reagan.   I won't reconcile with Trumpism,  I will fight it.   

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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2016, 01:29:44 pm »
It's over IMO. We're all in with Trump. Now the Trumpites need to close their big mouths and put up or SHUT UP!!!

Win us the election in November or bleep off.

Um... it ain't "we're all in," it's "THEY'RE all in," 'cause I ain't with 'em.
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2016, 01:30:25 pm »
Bigun,  you may well be right.  Trump's bromance with Putin is truly disturbing.

I will also tell you that I have never been among those who believe that the fall of the Soviet Union meant the end of Communism! Far from it!
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2016, 01:54:54 pm »
Boy, y'all going to have a rough night tonight. 

As many misgivings as I have about Ted Cruz - if he would have ended up as our nominee - I would have voted for him or anyone else - if nothing else - just to add another vote that Hillary has to counter. 

Makes me want to weep - seeing so many who strut around with the word "conservative" tatooed on their foreheads - saying they will abet Hillary by not voting for her opponent......because their candidate lost. 

 **nononono* **nononono* **nononono* **nononono* **nononono*
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2016, 01:58:45 pm »
Boy, y'all going to have a rough night tonight. 

As many misgivings as I have about Ted Cruz - if he would have ended up as our nominee - I would have voted for him or anyone else - if nothing else - just to add another vote that Hillary has to counter. 

Makes me want to weep - seeing so many who strut around with the word "conservative" tatooed on their foreheads - saying they will abet Hillary by not voting for her opponent......because their candidate lost. 

 **nononono* **nononono* **nononono* **nononono* **nononono*

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2016, 04:49:42 pm »
Boy, y'all going to have a rough night tonight. 


  No, I'm at peace.  I've done what I could.  I recognized the danger represented by Hillary Clinton, and supported the one Republican the polls consistently have said could defeat her.  It's not my fault the crazies are in charge,  and insist on nominating someone dangerous and an existential threat to my party and my nation.   

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As many misgivings as I have about Ted Cruz - if he would have ended up as our nominee - I would have voted for him or anyone else - if nothing else - just to add another vote that Hillary has to counter. 

This will be a contest forcing us to choose between the lesser of two evils.  Many will stay home.   I will not.  I know which one is the worse evil.   

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Makes me want to weep - seeing so many who strut around with the word "conservative" tatooed on their foreheads - saying they will abet Hillary by not voting for her opponent......because their candidate lost. 


Not because "my candidate lost".   But because my conscience compels me to not spit the bit, and work to defeat Trumpism even at the expense of everything I believe.   Men have died to oppose what they knew in their hearts was wrong.  All I'm doing is casting a vote. 
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Re: Ted Cruz Campaign Staffers Are Reportedly Beginning to Panic
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2016, 05:03:26 pm »
It is my hope that Cruz still has an outside chance. If not, the I'm guessing Trump doesn't care if he wins or loses because in either case, Shillary is a looser or she wins and Trump still wins because he will have his money in her pocket and control her for his benefit. If Cruz does loose out, I hope he will get a SCOTUS nomination, because only he can be a true conservative on the bench, a la Scalia. The only roadblock to that, other than he lacks judicial experience, is the Senate, both GOPe and Dems. They will play their elitest cards and block him.
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