Ted Cruz confronts Trump supporter in Indiana

[alicewonders]

So do you think that votes should be automatic? Like how the black vote defaults to the Democrats time and again?

Should Trump have to do anything to earn these people's trust?

Trump has worked hard during this campaign - he is winning the old-fashioned way - with the PEOPLE. 

He has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust - as any of these professional politicians that lie every election cycle - and rarely do what they promise to do.  In fact - it appears to me that they've rolled over for Obama almost everytime they've had an opportunity. 

How have these taxpayer parasites earned anyone's trust? 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Trump has worked hard during this campaign - he is winning the old-fashioned way - with the PEOPLE. 

He has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust - as any of these professional politicians that lie every election cycle - and rarely do what they promise to do.  In fact - it appears to me that they've rolled over for Obama almost everytime they've had an opportunity. 

How have these taxpayer parasites earned anyone's trust?

Red herring right here ^^^^. I know Trump has earned your vote, my question was for MacV. I don't even disagree with you, necessarily, although equating all politicians as exactly the same is some damn lazy thinking as far as I'm concerned.

[sinkspur]

Amazingly enough, many of us thought Donald Trump was as bad as Ted Cruz says he is now when Cruz said he was "terrific."

[MACVSOG68]

So do you think that votes should be automatic? Like how the black vote defaults to the Democrats time and again?

Should Trump have to do anything to earn these people's trust?

Sure, but he has apparently done that for those who've given him the nomination.  It's never going to make me like him.  For me, keeping the Democrats from the White House is the most important short-term goal.  For others it's sending a message.  We go through the primaries, and just because we don't like the last man (generic) standing isn't for me a reason to abandon reason.  We know what Hillary would do; we don't know what Trump would do.  No contest for me as a conservative and a Republican.  The Obama transition to his view of America isn't over, and I would like to see it at least significantly hindered if not stopped entirely. 

It's much more to me than Noonan's recent declaration that November will come down to voting for a crook or a crazy man.  It's just not that simple.  I will vote to stop Hillary, but after eight more years of socialist transition, I won't have any qualms about what I did or didn't do to stop the madness.  Others might.

[rodamala]

I think the people of this Nation are disgusted by the debates and would be happy to never see another one until Fall anyway.  Besides what would Trump have  to gain by a debate now?

It's not about what Trump has to gain... this is about what we have to lose by not demanding a debate format that fast tracks the debate format from 17 viable candidates to 2, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

[catfish1957]

"He (Trump) has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust "

That was satire right?

[bolobaby]

He has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust...

Name three things he has done to earn our trust.

[alicewonders]

Red herring right here ^^^^. I know Trump has earned your vote, my question was for MacV. I don't even disagree with you, necessarily, although equating all politicians as exactly the same is some damn lazy thinking as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe so, but I know after being very active in politics for the Republican party for forty years - putting in a lot of time, money and effort - I have become aware of only a few exceptions to that rule.  Not enough exceptions to even establish a trend.  Once, I thought Cruz was one - but he has disappointed me as well. 

What I was trying to say - Trump has earned as much trust with me as any of these other guys.  I'm willing to suspend a false sense of security (voting for a professional politician) - WHO else would be qualified to do their job - it's so hard - I KNOW a self-employed successful businessman that has done business all over the world could never be qualified to do what a slimy lawyer (in all probability) can do - spend, waste, steal, misuse, bribe, etc - the poor taxpayer's hard-earned money all day long.

It's a no-brainer - Trump earning my trust - or some politician.  After watching my country go down the skids and teetering off the cliff - due to the mismanagement of these people running Washington DC right now - it's a NO-BRAINER. 

Stay in the trap?  Or chew my leg off and maybe survive?

[Jewbacca]

Every time I see an uneducated Trump supporter like this I was to gag.  These are the type of brainwashed people that have no clue, but sway the vote for one of the most important offices in the country.  This is the inbred mentality our liberals have instilled in our education system to perpetuate stupidity and elect the likes of Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.  Make me sick.

Hear, hear!

Trump has made a good living scamming the stupid, either investors he conned, students at his "university," or shills as his casinos.

He may well pull off the biggest con in the history of the world shortly.

Sad.

[MACVSOG68]

It's not about what Trump has to gain... this is about what we have to lose by not demanding a debate format that fast tracks the debate format from 17 viable candidates to 2, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

That wasn't what you said earlier prompting my response.  If you think the debate format should change in the future, fine.  Problem is during the early part of the debates, many of them changed places quite often as they did in 2012.  IIRC, Bush started out as number one.  At this point, Trump would be stupid to debate Cruz one on one.

[sinkspur]

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Maybe so, but I know after being very active in politics for the Republican party for forty years - putting in a lot of time, money and effort - I have become aware of only a few exceptions to that rule.  Not enough exceptions to even establish a trend.  Once, I thought Cruz was one - but he has disappointed me as well. 

This is the sort of just complete idiocy which leads me to think that even Reagan would be called a "RINO" in today's hyper-idiotic conservative world, where 100% purity is demanded. It pushes us toward idiotic extremism, and idiotically pushes the GOP to reject good candidates who may not be 100% conservative, but only 99%.

In other words, it's a prime example of why we are called the "stupid party". This all or nothing black or white thinking.

[flowers]

Sure, but he has apparently done that for those who've given him the nomination.  It's never going to make me like him.  For me, keeping the Democrats from the White House is the most important short-term goal.  For others it's sending a message.  We go through the primaries, and just because we don't like the last man (generic) standing isn't for me a reason to abandon reason.  We know what Hillary would do; we don't know what Trump would do.  No contest for me as a conservative and a Republican.  The Obama transition to his view of America isn't over, and I would like to see it at least significantly hindered if not stopped entirely. 

It's much more to me than Noonan's recent declaration that November will come down to voting for a crook or a crazy man.  It's just not that simple.  I will vote to stop Hillary, but after eight more years of socialist transition, I won't have any qualms about what I did or didn't do to stop the madness.  Others might.

Great post!!!

[MACVSOG68]

Great post!!!

 

[alicewonders]

This is the sort of just complete idiocy which leads me to think that even Reagan would be called a "RINO" in today's hyper-idiotic conservative world, where 100% purity is demanded. It pushes us toward idiotic extremism, and idiotically pushes the GOP to reject good candidates who may not be 100% conservative, but only 99%.

In other words, it's a prime example of why we are called the "stupid party". This all or nothing black or white thinking.

I totally agree with that.

[RetBobbyMI]

I think the people of this Nation are disgusted by the debates and would be happy to never see another one until Fall anyway.  Besides what would Trump have  to gain by a debate now?

The issue is not what Trump has to gain, but what we the people might hear that we don't like. Trump avoided a Cruz Mano e Mano debate for fear that he (Trump) would be shown as a fraud, which he is. If not for the open primaries, he wouldn't have had a chance. The primaries are supposed to be party nominations, not an open popularity contest. The GOP is as much fault in this aspect as they are for his popularity due to GOP inaction in the Congress. Time to abandon both Trump and the GOP losers.

[MACVSOG68]

The issue is not what Trump has to gain, but what we the people might hear that we don't like. Trump avoided a Cruz Mano e Mano debate for fear that he (Trump) would be shown as a fraud, which he is. If not for the open primaries, he wouldn't have had a chance. The primaries are supposed to be party nominations, not an open popularity contest. The GOP is as much fault in this aspect as they are for his popularity due to GOP inaction in the Congress. Time to abandon both Trump and the GOP losers.

Point was Trump had nothing to gain and as you point out a lot to lose.  That has nothing to do with the various state rules, which will no doubt be severly looked at after tbe election.  I'll stick with the GOP and it's nominee as I know what Hillary will do once elected.  But that's me and everyone else has to decide that very important issue for themselves.

[bolobaby]

...Trump has earned as much trust with me as any of these other guys...

...It's a no-brainer - Trump earning my trust - or some politician...

I see you are still ignoring my earlier call to name three things Trump has done to earn your trust.

Telling.

[Jewbacca]

I often wonder what this mouth-breathing idiot's screen name is on unfreerepublic