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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #2225 on: November 20, 2019, 04:44:03 am »
Rational posts deserve rational replies. You're a smart guy, so why not talk about things other than politics?

There is always common ground among intelligent people, sometimes broad, sometimes narrow, but there, nonetheless.
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There are many forums to talk about comic books and jokes.  Unsurprisingly I come here for the politics, and I come here because my NT opinions would not be tolerated at TOS, and my center right opinion would not be tolerated on a liberal forum.  I also come here because of thoughtful posters like yourself, it's lightly moderated, and even more participant moderated.  This allows me to explore my opinions in the relative safety of people who will understand my experiences as a Republican for almost 30 years.

I saw your post on the Ben Carson thread, and I agree intelligent people can find common ground.  Thank you for the compliment and of course I return it to you.  You're an asset to this forum. 
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« Reply #2226 on: November 20, 2019, 07:14:22 am »
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There are many forums to talk about comic books and jokes.  Unsurprisingly I come here for the politics, and I come here because my NT opinions would not be tolerated at TOS, and my center right opinion would not be tolerated on a liberal forum.  I also come here because of thoughtful posters like yourself, it's lightly moderated, and even more participant moderated.  This allows me to explore my opinions in the relative safety of people who will understand my experiences as a Republican for almost 30 years.

I saw your post on the Ben Carson thread, and I agree intelligent people can find common ground.  Thank you for the compliment and of course I return it to you.  You're an asset to this forum.
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« Reply #2227 on: November 20, 2019, 07:34:41 am »
Wonder Woman - Bloodlines...

Boring and same old storyline... crude animation compared to previous offerings. Don't bother... watched it with my brother (who likes the Superhero line)...
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« Reply #2228 on: November 24, 2019, 05:34:11 am »
'Mars' on Netflix is pretty darn interesting. Unique format, toggling between 2016 and 2033. Very intriguing to watch.
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« Reply #2229 on: November 24, 2019, 05:03:22 pm »
Wonder Woman - Bloodlines...

Boring and same old storyline... crude animation compared to previous offerings. Don't bother... watched it with my brother (who likes the Superhero line)...

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I didn't even like the comics when I was a kid,but I was a HUGE fan of Linda Evans. She was indeed a "Wonder Woman". I would get a little dizzy every time I saw her in that costume.
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« Reply #2230 on: November 24, 2019, 05:04:45 pm »
'Mars' on Netflix is pretty darn interesting. Unique format, toggling between 2016 and 2033. Very intriguing to watch.

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Thanks for the tip. I have been eyeing it and been tempted to give it a click,but passed on to other things. Now I will give it a try.
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« Reply #2231 on: November 24, 2019, 05:37:26 pm »
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I already saw Mars that is on Netflix.  Just be warned the 2nd season is nothing more than Green Propganda bulls**t.
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« Reply #2232 on: November 24, 2019, 05:40:18 pm »
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I didn't even like the comics when I was a kid,but I was a HUGE fan of Linda Evans. She was indeed a "Wonder Woman". I would get a little dizzy every time I saw her in that costume.
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« Reply #2233 on: November 24, 2019, 05:42:33 pm »
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I already saw Mars that is on Netflix.  Just be warned the 2nd season is nothing more than Green Propganda bulls**t.

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Yeah I swerved into that last night, not long after I posted. Sad. First season was great. Now I just want to choke out the Marta character. What a haughty, pompous asshat.
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« Reply #2234 on: November 24, 2019, 07:01:13 pm »
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You mean Lynda Carter, no?  wink777

 

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Yes,I still get a little dizzy when I hear her name,or think about her getting out of that swimming pool during the first tv "battle of the somebodies or something". In fact,I watched it several times before someone told me who it was. For some reason I was having trouble seeing her face.
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« Reply #2235 on: November 24, 2019, 07:06:55 pm »
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Yeah I swerved into that last night, not long after I posted. Sad. First season was great. Now I just want to choke out the Marta character. What a haughty, pompous asshat.

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That does seem to be the way this evil old world is turning,doesn't it?

Noticed how there are a lot of commercials now with black male and white female couples? I saw one a couple of days ago that had 3 different "happy couples and their kids" coming out of a store after shopping,and in every case the father was black,the mother was white,and they were all mixed race kids.

Then I started to notice how common that scenario was in other commercials,too. NEVER a white husband and black wife,and it now seems to be getting rare to see a black husband and black wife,or a white husband and white wife.

To ME,this seems to go beyond marketing a product,and into the "marketing an image and lifestyle" territory.

BTW,if some of you want to call me a racist because I see what is happening and comment on it,go ahead. I flat don't care what you think.
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« Reply #2236 on: November 24, 2019, 07:18:24 pm »
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Yes,I still get a little dizzy when I hear her name,or think about her getting out of that swimming pool during the first tv "battle of the somebodies or something". In fact,I watched it several times before someone told me who it was. For some reason I was having trouble seeing her face.
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« Reply #2237 on: November 24, 2019, 07:23:48 pm »
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« Reply #2238 on: November 24, 2019, 08:29:36 pm »
Dr. Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff, in their book "The Coddling of the Americann Mind," state their belief that current 18-19 year old colllege freshman, are only as mature as 13-15 yr. old just a short time ago.

I will posit that interest in cartoons, and fantasy make believe inform me that many never grow the Ef up.

And that lack of growing up is at the root of drug/alcohol addiction,, school shooting violence, online hostile and profanity laced  misbehavior, etc.

 
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« Reply #2239 on: November 24, 2019, 08:33:07 pm »
Dr. Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff, in their book "The Coddling of the Americann Mind," state their belief that current 18-19 year old colllege freshman, are only as mature as 13-15 yr. old just a short time ago.

I will posit that interest in cartoons, and fantasy make believe inform me that many never grow the Ef up.

And that lack of growing up is at the root of drug/alcohol addiction,, school shooting violence, online hostile and profanity laced  misbehavior, etc.

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It is my OPINION the core cause of that is both parents working,and nobody bothering to take the time to teach the children right from wrong,or to monitor what they are doing and correct them.

What can you really expect from children that raise themselves other than anarchy and rebellion?
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« Reply #2240 on: November 24, 2019, 09:13:19 pm »
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It is my OPINION the core cause of that is both parents working,and nobody bothering to take the time to teach the children right from wrong,or to monitor what they are doing and correct them.

What can you really expect from children that raise themselves other than anarchy and rebellion?

Don't forget, the parents teachers and school admin, can't strike the child.

And another factor is that a juvenile parent will want to be friends, not an authority figure.  IOW parent wants to be liked, instead of respected.
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« Reply #2241 on: November 24, 2019, 11:11:04 pm »

 IOW parent wants to be liked, instead of respected.

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You are much more optimistic than I am. From what I have seen,most parents want to be left alone to live their lives without being bothered by the rug rats.
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« Reply #2242 on: November 24, 2019, 11:38:31 pm »
@Free Vulcan   @kevindavis

That does seem to be the way this evil old world is turning,doesn't it?

Noticed how there are a lot of commercials now with black male and white female couples? I saw one a couple of days ago that had 3 different "happy couples and their kids" coming out of a store after shopping,and in every case the father was black,the mother was white,and they were all mixed race kids.

Then I started to notice how common that scenario was in other commercials,too. NEVER a white husband and black wife,and it now seems to be getting rare to see a black husband and black wife,or a white husband and white wife.

To ME,this seems to go beyond marketing a product,and into the "marketing an image and lifestyle" territory.

BTW,if some of you want to call me a racist because I see what is happening and comment on it,go ahead. I flat don't care what you think.
I'm not gonna call you a racist. I noticed the same thing a couple years ago, and it has only become more common.
The other thing I see missing, and they've been AWOL for a long time, are intelligent straight white male characters who aren't patently evil.
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« Reply #2243 on: November 24, 2019, 11:42:18 pm »
@truth_seeker

It is my OPINION the core cause of that is both parents working,and nobody bothering to take the time to teach the children right from wrong,or to monitor what they are doing and correct them.

What can you really expect from children that raise themselves other than anarchy and rebellion?
That's part of the picture. Let them get a job at an earlier age, working alongside people who are supporting their families and dealing with adult life, and they just might mature some and develop a little common sense.
But instead, they aren't even allowed to run the french fry machine until they are old enough to think they know everything, and that everything is the mush they had stuffed in their heads in school by SJWs and assorted nitwit liberals, more often than not.
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« Reply #2244 on: November 24, 2019, 11:49:15 pm »
I'm not gonna call you a racist. I noticed the same thing a couple years ago, and it has only become more common.
The other thing I see missing, and they've been AWOL for a long time, are intelligent straight white male characters who aren't patently evil.

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Seems like all the "loveable sidekicks" or years past are all homosexuals now,too.
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« Reply #2245 on: November 24, 2019, 11:53:14 pm »
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Seems like all the "loveable sidekicks" or years past are all homosexuals now,too.
Yeah, and suddenly, there are no 'Green Lanterns, etc. in my house.
If the producers want to market to the 1-2% alphabet people, let them have that market, they don't need mine.
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« Reply #2246 on: November 24, 2019, 11:56:34 pm »
Yeah, and suddenly, there are no 'Green Lanterns, etc. in my house.
If the producers want to market to the 1-2% alphabet people, let them have that market, they don't need mine.

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Well,"those people" ARE the producers and the writers.
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« Reply #2247 on: November 25, 2019, 12:02:40 am »
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Well,"those people" ARE the producers and the writers.
Well, they don't need my money. They aren't marketing to me.  **nononono*
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« Reply #2248 on: November 25, 2019, 01:02:21 am »
@Free Vulcan   @kevindavis

That does seem to be the way this evil old world is turning,doesn't it?

Noticed how there are a lot of commercials now with black male and white female couples? I saw one a couple of days ago that had 3 different "happy couples and their kids" coming out of a store after shopping,and in every case the father was black,the mother was white,and they were all mixed race kids.

Then I started to notice how common that scenario was in other commercials,too. NEVER a white husband and black wife,and it now seems to be getting rare to see a black husband and black wife,or a white husband and white wife.

To ME,this seems to go beyond marketing a product,and into the "marketing an image and lifestyle" territory.

BTW,if some of you want to call me a racist because I see what is happening and comment on it,go ahead. I flat don't care what you think.

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It's what I call 'the breakdown'. Cloward-Piven is the more formal term. Basically keep blending and blending till society is on big indistinguishable, dysfuntional mess. Breakdown family, race, ethnicity, sex, patriotism, hetero anything, religion - anything that people ground themselves in.

Create a cultural vacuum, weaken all resistance, and send in the globalist collectivist overlords.
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« Reply #2249 on: November 25, 2019, 01:13:44 am »
@sneakypete

It's what I call 'the breakdown'. Cloward-Piven is the more formal term. Basically keep blending and blending till society is on big indistinguishable, dysfuntional mess. Breakdown family, race, ethnicity, sex, patriotism, hetero anything, religion - anything that people ground themselves in.

Create a cultural vacuum, weaken all resistance, and send in the globalist collectivist overlords.

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Thank you for reminding me of Cloward-Piven. I had forgotten all about it.
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