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[EC]

21 Books That Changed Science Fiction And Fantasy Forever

Good list. Especially agree with The Forever War being included - that is horribly underrated in my opinion.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

21 Books That Changed Science Fiction And Fantasy Forever

Good list. Especially agree with The Forever War being included - that is horribly underrated in my opinion.

One of a very, very, short list of books I gave up on without finishing.

[EC]

I read it during my first tour in NI. It was apropos.

[Smokin Joe]

Well, I have read 1-9 and the last three. I guess I have some catching up to do, but I never really thought of Harry Potter as Sci-Fi.

[kevindavis007]

Another actor from Babylon 5 has died:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,267830.0.html

[Free Vulcan]

RIP Stephen Furst. Another one of the Babylon 5 guys gone by their early-60's if not before.

Richard Biggs - 44
Stephen Furst - 63
Andreas Katsulas - 60
Jerry Doyle - 60
Jeff Conaway - 61
Michael O'Hare - 60

Peter Jurasik is the only main original male character left. Then there's Boxleightner, and two minor character actors, Bill Mumy and Jason Carter. Just Damn.

[kevindavis007]

RIP Stephen Furst. Another one of the Babylon 5 guys gone by their early-60's if not before.

Richard Biggs - 44
Stephen Furst - 63
Andreas Katsulas - 60
Jerry Doyle - 60
Jeff Conaway - 61
Michael O'Hare - 60

Peter Jurasik is the only main original male character left. Then there's Boxleightner, and two minor character actors, Bill Mumy and Jason Carter. Just Damn.

I have never  seen so many actors from one SciFi show die so soon in my lifetime.  Don't forget about Bester ;)  Just Damn is right.

[bigheadfred]

One of a very, very, short list of books I gave up on without finishing.

Didn't read any between 11-17. Don't think I missed much by not reading them, either.

[bigheadfred]

I have never  seen so many actors from one SciFi show die so soon in my lifetime.  Don't forget about Bester ;)  Just Damn is right.

Must have been an undiscovered reactor leak.

[kevindavis007]

Must have been an undiscovered reactor leak.

Must be.. Sad part is this.. There are more actors/actress from the TOS who has lived longer than most people from Babylon 5.

[Cripplecreek]

Must have been an undiscovered reactor leak.

Why couldn't Sulu be an engineer. 

[bigheadfred]

Must be.. Sad part is this.. There are more actors/actress from the TOS who has lived longer than most people from Babylon 5.

Richard Biggs - 44
Stephen Furst - 63
Andreas Katsulas - 60
Jerry Doyle - 60
Jeff Conaway - 61
Michael O'Hare - 60

Tim Choate - 49
Robin Sachs - 61

[bigheadfred]

Why couldn't Sulu be an engineer. 

Oh, but he started out that way. But after an undiscovered reactor leak his dick fell off.

[Cripplecreek]

Oh, but he started out that way. But after an undiscovered reactor leak his dick fell off.

That's what he gets for sticking it in the containment field.

[kevindavis007]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8MjQ5Z7ZNo

[kevindavis007]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DfQcHMYLY

[Free Vulcan]

Tim Choate - 49
Robin Sachs - 61

Krikey, didn't know about those guys. I loved the Zathras character. Was there something in the water on the set that affected only the men?

[bigheadfred]

Krikey, didn't know about those guys. I loved the Zathras character. Was there something in the water on the set that affected only the men?

A quick look at bios tells me maybe certain lifestyle choices. Not gay. Drinking, smoking, etc.

[kevindavis007]

A quick look at bios tells me maybe certain lifestyle choices. Not gay. Drinking, smoking, etc.

Well for Furst, it was complications from Diabetes..
Biggs it was something on his brain


I'm not sure about the rest.

[EC]

Drink did Doyle in.

[bigheadfred]

Well for Furst, it was complications from Diabetes..
Biggs it was something on his brain


I'm not sure about the rest.

I think it was first reported Biggs may have had a stroke/aneurysm...The cause was a tear in his aorta.

Diabetes can also be brought on by certain lifestyle choices. Not saying that is why Furst had diabetes. But alcoholism, lung cancer, motorcycle accident, etc. can be construed as relating to lifestyle choices. That they all worked on the same program is happenstance/coincidence.

While the deaths, for example, of people working in the nuclear field early days, is not (coincidental).

BTW, how do you get a tear in your aorta?

[kevindavis007]

I think it was first reported Biggs may have had a stroke/aneurysm...The cause was a tear in his aorta.

Diabetes can also be brought on by certain lifestyle choices. Not saying that is why Furst had diabetes. But alcoholism, lung cancer, motorcycle accident, etc. can be construed as relating to lifestyle choices. That they all worked on the same program is happenstance/coincidence.

While the deaths, for example, of people working in the nuclear field early days, is not (coincidental).

BTW, how do you get a tear in your aorta?

It could be that somethings s**t happens on the aorta..


As for Furst, check him out on Animal House and you can see why he had problems with Diabetes..

[kevindavis007]

Drink did Doyle in.

Which is kinda ironic that his character on Babylon 5 was a recovering alcoholic...

[Machiavelli]

There are more actors/actress from the TOS who has lived longer than most people from Babylon 5.

Living:

William Shatner, March 22, 1931 (age 86)
Nichelle Nichols, December 28, 1932 (age 84)
Walter Koenig, September 14, 1936 (age 80)
George Takei, April 20, 1937 (age 80)

Deceased:

DeForest Kelley, January 20, 1920 – June 11, 1999 (aged 79)
James Doohan, March 3, 1920 – July 20, 2005 (aged 85)
Majel Barrett, February 23, 1932 – December 18, 2008 (aged 76)
Leonard Nimoy, March 26, 1931 – February 27, 2015 (aged 83)
Grace Lee Whitney, April 1, 1930 – May 1, 2015 (aged 85)

[catfish1957]

Living:

William Shatner, March 22, 1931 (age 86)
Nichelle Nichols, December 28, 1932 (age 84)
Walter Koenig, September 14, 1936 (age 80)
George Takei, April 20, 1937 (age 80)

Deceased:

DeForest Kelley, January 20, 1920 – June 11, 1999 (aged 79)
James Doohan, March 3, 1920 – July 20, 2005 (aged 85)
Majel Barrett, February 23, 1932 – December 18, 2008 (aged 76)
Leonard Nimoy, March 26, 1931 – February 27, 2015 (aged 83)
Grace Lee Whitney, April 1, 1930 – May 1, 2015 (aged 85)

Will be interesting to see how the reboot fares in long term ST lore.  I for one would like to give props to the kid who has reprised Nimoy's character Spock.  He has done a helluva job.  the rest of the crew.......   Ahhhhh.. So So.