The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre

[Quix]

The idea that they would brief the children of those involved extremely unlikely.

I think it's unlikely in any official sense with any trackable evidence.

RELATIONALLY, I think it is more likely--depending on a variety of factors.

I think one factoid affirming of that assertion is the GENERAL policy of the oligarchy to inculcate, initiate, train their offspring into the ruling elite's operations.

I do think that in terms of this genre, sphere of reality--that the PTB would be more selective than usual in terms of the offspring that would be significantly briefed into such black ops programs. I think I know of only a handful of those who seem to have been seriously, deliberately briefed into stuff.

There HAVE BEEN a LOT MORE who shared with offspring/relatives--on their death bed--key elements of such goings on.

= = = =

A question for all on the thread:

What percentage of all SCI-FI MOVIES AND TV shows of the last 50 years would you guesstimate to include significant portions of deliberate and carefully calculated populace manipulating propaganda from the PTB?

I'll withhold my guess until some others have posted theirs.

Start, say, with THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL--which the CIA has been documented to have been very significantly involved with. Or, you could start with THE WAR OF THE WORLDS--which has also been documented to be a psyops of TPTB.

[Smokin Joe]

@Quix I didn't know of the thread, between bantering about politics and a lot of irons in the fire of late--busy, not necessarily economically productive, but nonetheless things which must be done before the snow flies (which isn't usually long, now, here). It may take a day or two, but I will look it over and lwt you know what I think. Thanks for the links!

[Quix]

Here's another book/contribution to such assertions:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015B6XAUY?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

"Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs & Extraterrestrial Alliances Kindle Edition"

[Quix]

THANKS for your kind reply.

Understand about  prepping for winter. I have to get natural gas piped over to Dad's double wide since they shut off the well and free gas we'd enjoyed since 1952. Wheeee. Sigh.

That reminds me, I need to contact the plumber again given he hasn't replied to my text.

Wheeee.

@Quix I didn't know of the thread, between bantering about politics and a lot of irons in the fire of late--busy, not necessarily economically productive, but nonetheless things which must be done before the snow flies (which isn't usually long, now, here). It may take a day or two, but I will look it over and lwt you know what I think. Thanks for the links!

[Taxcontrol]

Have to admit my all-time favorite now is Babylon 5.

I have always thought that a show based on an earlier time that showed the times and issues (perhaps civil war) that led up to the creation of the psy-corps would be an interesting series.

[uglybiker]

 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgRlzFIgm1E

[Machiavelli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgRlzFIgm1E

 

[Smokin Joe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgRlzFIgm1E

  fun stuff!

[Ghost Bear]

I have always thought that a show based on an earlier time that showed the times and issues (perhaps civil war) that led up to the creation of the psy-corps would be an interesting series.

After B5 ended, there were a series of book trilogies that were approved by JMS, which delved into various background aspects of the show. The first trilogy revolved around Psi Corps, and Psi Cop Bester in particular. The first book of that trilogy was called Dark Genesis: The Birth of the Psi Corps, and covered the events which led to the creation of the Psi Corps, and a young Bester becoming a Psi Cop.

If you were a B5 nut (as I was at the time) they were pretty good. If you were a casual fan of the show, then mileage may have varied on how good the books were.

[Smokin Joe]

After B5 ended, there were a series of book trilogies that were approved by JMS, which delved into various background aspects of the show. The first trilogy revolved around Psi Corps, and Psi Cop Bester in particular. The first book of that trilogy was called Dark Genesis: The Birth of the Psi Corps, and covered the events which led to the creation of the Psi Corps, and a young Bester becoming a Psi Cop.

If you were a B5 nut (as I was at the time) they were pretty good. If you were a casual fan of the show, then mileage may have varied on how good the books were.

Well, there is something else to keep an eye out for at rummage sales. At that price, I won't be reading them any time soon.

[Machiavelli]

The Great Boor of the Galaxy

Matthew Continetti
National Review
September 10, 2016

...Roddenberry never stopped rewriting. “The problem,” says his biographer Joel Engel, “was that he basically couldn’t write well enough to carry it off.” For 25 years, a script never left Roddenberry’s hands without becoming worse.

For all of the control Roddenberry exercised over Star Trek, the franchise prospered only when it was under the aegis of others. As early as one month before the show’s premiere, an exhausted and embattled Roddenberry took a vacation. Television veteran Gene L. Coon, a Marine veteran of the Pacific, was hired as producer. “To a large degree,” write Gross and Altman, “it would be Coon who would ultimately define the show creatively in the coming months.”

The Star Trek that has imprinted itself on fans for decades is Gene L. Coon’s. His shows deepened the relationships between Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, and Dr. McCoy. He created the Klingons. There was more humor. Says writer David Gerrold, “Gene L. Coon created the noble image that everyone gives Roddenberry the most credit for.” Shatner puts it this way: “Gene Coon had more to do with the infusion of life into Star Trek than any other single person.”...

Full article

Gene L. Coon

[Quix]

ONE compilation of "12 Best SciFi movies of all time

SUNSHINE  2007

2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 1968

SOLARIS 2002

A.I. ARTIVICIAL INTELLIGENCE 2001

ALIEN 1979

BLADE RUNNER 1982

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE 3RD KIND

CONTACT 1997

THE MATRIX 1999

MOON 2009

BTW, I watched about as much as I could stand of MOON . . . skipping liberally . . . and watched the last however many minutes. I NEVER got the point of it. There seemed to be some philosophical bits along the way but they seemed a bit . . . contrived or forced or something. It just did not seem to be that interesting a movie. Did I miss somethings?

PROMETHEUS 2012

SILENT RUNNING 1972




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQt-Kllt7Uc

Not a fan of the "music."

[kevindavis007]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAT4tjjzOCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTrUejIXYiM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnJGk_UZ6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kN-FI4f0wc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AksT1IgNz0

[Ghost Bear]

ONE compilation of "12 Best SciFi movies of all time

SUNSHINE  2007

2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 1968

SOLARIS 2002

A.I. ARTIVICIAL INTELLIGENCE 2001

ALIEN 1979

BLADE RUNNER 1982

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE 3RD KIND

CONTACT 1997

THE MATRIX 1999

MOON 2009

BTW, I watched about as much as I could stand of MOON . . . skipping liberally . . . and watched the last however many minutes. I NEVER got the point of it. There seemed to be some philosophical bits along the way but they seemed a bit . . . contrived or forced or something. It just did not seem to be that interesting a movie. Did I miss somethings?

PROMETHEUS 2012

SILENT RUNNING 1972


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQt-Kllt7Uc

Not a fan of the "music."

Yeah, I didn't think much of the list. First off, why the arbitrary cut-off year of 1968? That prevents the inclusion of some excellent SF movies of the 50s and early 60s, such as Forbidden Planet and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Second, it seems weighted to "high-brow", "artsy" movies that the general public is unfamiliar with (such as Sunshine, Solaris, and Moon, none of which I've seen.) What about films such as Star Wars (ok, the actual science is minimal, but it's an excellent example of space opera), Terminator and Terminator 2 (good examples of both time travel and killer robots, with unrelenting action to boot), The Final Countdown (time travel to the past), Somewhere in Time (time travel from the past), Soylent Green (eco-disaster), Mad Max (societal breakdown), The Andromeda Strain (a very good "what if?" type of movie, as most Michael Crichton movies are). I could list more, but I think I make my point: many of the movies that I listed have become iconic, as examples of the SF trope that makes up their story, and there's a reason for that. They are very good and entertaining (which don't always go together) whereas many of the movies on that list may be "good" from a technical standpoint, but not always entertaining (I always fall asleep while watching "2001", for instance).

Oh well, I guess I'm just too low-brow and plebian to know what belongs on a "best of" list.   

[Quix]

WELL PUT. AGREED.

Perhaps the list maker wasn't born before 1968. LOL.

Yeah, I didn't think much of the list. First off, why the arbitrary cut-off year of 1968? That prevents the inclusion of some excellent SF movies of the 50s and early 60s, such as Forbidden Planet and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Second, it seems weighted to "high-brow", "artsy" movies that the general public is unfamiliar with (such as Sunshine, Solaris, and Moon, none of which I've seen.) What about films such as Star Wars (ok, the actual science is minimal, but it's an excellent example of space opera), Terminator and Terminator 2 (good examples of both time travel and killer robots, with unrelenting action to boot), The Final Countdown (time travel to the past), Somewhere in Time (time travel from the past), Soylent Green (eco-disaster), Mad Max (societal breakdown), The Andromeda Strain (a very good "what if?" type of movie, as most Michael Crichton movies are). I could list more, but I think I make my point: many of the movies that I listed have become iconic, as examples of the SF trope that makes up their story, and there's a reason for that. They are very good and entertaining (which don't always go together) whereas many of the movies on that list may be "good" from a technical standpoint, but not always entertaining (I always fall asleep while watching "2001", for instance).

Oh well, I guess I'm just too low-brow and plebian to know what belongs on a "best of" list.   

[Machiavelli]

Perhaps the list maker wasn't born before 1968. LOL.

Not a joke. Most of these movie list makers are obviously youngsters, at least by our standards.

[Machiavelli]

The Final Countdown

You mean, The Final Copout? 

[Ghost Bear]

WELL PUT. AGREED.

Thanks!  ^-^

Perhaps the list maker wasn't born before 1968. LOL.

Yes, that thought had occurred to me too. 

[Quix]

Not a joke. Most of these movie list makers are obviously youngsters, at least by our standards.

INDEED.

BTW, Y'ALL

I've made it a good way down the articles at least scanning some . . . at this link:

http://exopolitics.org/tag/william-tompkins/page/1/

. . . and the amount of official documents included as well as supplementary officials affirming his bona fides and some of his story . . . I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH supportive documentation and other officials join such a band wagon of testimony . . . not since I began studying it in 1962. The amount of confirming stuff is at least 8-12 TIMES the usual. Interesting, to me, at least.

Yeah, there's plenty of crap included and no doubt disinformation and lies etc. but there's a LOT more going on than merely that usual pile of stuff. JUST WHAT remains to be seen but it is a very interesting thing to have crop up.

Not that it interests many hereon but that's another topic. Sigh.

[Ghost Bear]

You mean, The Final Copout? 

Well, yeah, that time storm does seem to pop up at the darnedest times.  But on the other hand the movie did explore some of the ethical, moral, and technical questions involved with changing history vs. preserving history, which is a very SF notion. And it was entertaining, which is something a lot of more critically-acclaimed SF movies fail at!

[Smokin Joe]

Yeah, I didn't think much of the list. First off, why the arbitrary cut-off year of 1968? That prevents the inclusion of some excellent SF movies of the 50s and early 60s, such as Forbidden Planet and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Second, it seems weighted to "high-brow", "artsy" movies that the general public is unfamiliar with (such as Sunshine, Solaris, and Moon, none of which I've seen.) What about films such as Star Wars (ok, the actual science is minimal, but it's an excellent example of space opera), Terminator and Terminator 2 (good examples of both time travel and killer robots, with unrelenting action to boot), The Final Countdown (time travel to the past), Somewhere in Time (time travel from the past), Soylent Green (eco-disaster), Mad Max (societal breakdown), The Andromeda Strain (a very good "what if?" type of movie, as most Michael Crichton movies are). I could list more, but I think I make my point: many of the movies that I listed have become iconic, as examples of the SF trope that makes up their story, and there's a reason for that. They are very good and entertaining (which don't always go together) whereas many of the movies on that list may be "good" from a technical standpoint, but not always entertaining (I always fall asleep while watching "2001", for instance).

Oh well, I guess I'm just too low-brow and plebian to know what belongs on a "best of" list.   

The Time Machine http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054387/--which followed the book quite well, War of the Worlds (1953)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046534/?ref_=nv_sr_3 (which did and didn't, but was still good). And just for fun Tremors

[Ghost Bear]

The Time Machine http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054387/--which followed the book quite well, War of the Worlds (1953)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046534/?ref_=nv_sr_3 (which did and didn't, but was still good). And just for fun Tremors

Yes, more good examples.

I forgot to include the first (original) Robocop in my list.

[Cripplecreek]

Critics panned it but I thought Pandorum was a cool flick with a great twist at the end.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v381360625PKsG7dQ

[Smokin Joe]

Critics panned it but I thought Pandorum was a cool flick with a great twist at the end.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v381360625PKsG7dQ

The twist was really good, admittedly. You pretty much had to see the show in its entirety, and the first few times I ran across it, I got bits and pieces of it. Finally, when I got a chance to watch the whole thing it was pretty good.

[uglybiker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIrw_AszBvk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNFo-DQW6PA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXFh5rNaDUk