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Who said this...  "The nation-state remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony."

Karl Marx
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Adolph Hitler
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Chairman Mao
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POLL: Who said this...
« on: April 27, 2016, 09:24:55 pm »
Who says this...

"The nation-state remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony."

Who thinks the nation-state is the font of happiness... seriously.

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Re: POLL: Who said this...
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 10:08:44 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 27, 2016, 09:24:55 pm
Who says this...

"The nation-state remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony."

Who thinks the nation-state is the font of happiness... seriously.


I was pretty sure it wasn't Ronald Reagan....


Paul Pot? 


Pee Wee Herman?


Is there any chance that certain American "voters" might begin....to rethink their  current "positions" after this episode of Undressing In Public???
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Re: POLL: Who said this...
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 10:23:48 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 27, 2016, 09:24:55 pm
Who says this...

"The nation-state remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony."

Who thinks the nation-state is the font of happiness... seriously.

You're against US sovereignty and national pride?

What's the point of this silly thread?
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 10:38:29 pm »
Quote from: AnybodyButaDem on April 27, 2016, 10:23:48 pm
You're against US sovereignty and national pride?

What's the point of this silly thread?


Its a poll! do you have an answer?
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 10:43:21 pm »
Happiness and harmony is not based on the nation-state. There are plenty of nation-states around the world that are not happy nor harmonious but perfectly sovereign. Government, whether local, state, national or international does not make the people happy nor harmonious, it is not something the government has the power to do. It can only take and grab and harm.

That which governs least, governs best. Less government power, less government wealth, less government interference is what will increase happiness and harmony.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 10:55:53 pm »
the responses to this soon to be infamous quote .......across the web...and I have been doing some extensive searching to determine juts how FAR GONE America may BE at this point....are REALLY disappointing!


The Donny got away with uttering words that would lead a reasonable sane mature adult to presume they were in fact spoken by a rigid totalitarian who views liberty as a gift from DAS STATE...to das people!!


pretty shocking!!!  pretty shocking!
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 11:12:35 pm »
Trump's statements smacks of "we all belong to the government" crapola that the leftists were spewing a while back. No surprise.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2016, 11:19:58 pm »
There is a seductive veneer of truth to this, but when you think of it, it boils down to nothing more than "it's better to be friends with your neighbors" because the phrase holds equally well if you substitute "city state" or even "neighborhood" for "nation state".  Ben Franklin got the pith of it when he said along the lines of: we had better hang together for we shall surely hang separately. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 11:37:49 pm »
Quote from: austingirl on April 27, 2016, 11:12:35 pm
Trump's statements smacks of "we all belong to the government" crapola that the leftists were spewing a while back. No surprise.


Totalitarians have been spewing this same nonsense since the first Totalitarians walked on earth.


America the nation this guy claims to want to Make Great Again... has a Constitution to Protect us from such people!!


 he must simply have misspoken....... **nononono*
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 11:39:54 pm »
Quote from: Meshuge Mikey on April 27, 2016, 11:37:49 pm

Totalitarians have been spewing this same nonsense since the first Totalitarians walked on earth.

I read about Ogg and his attempts to organize the cave system ghetto...
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 11:41:11 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 27, 2016, 10:43:21 pm
Happiness and harmony is not based on the nation-state. There are plenty of nation-states around the world that are not happy nor harmonious but perfectly sovereign. Government, whether local, state, national or international does not make the people happy nor harmonious, it is not something the government has the power to do. It can only take and grab and harm.

That which governs least, governs best. Less government power, less government wealth, less government interference is what will increase happiness and harmony.

As a US citizen, a large part of my happiness as an American lies within a national pride and American Exceptionalism.  What does that have to do with government?  Is it too much to ask an American president to actually protect American interests and its citizens, first of foremost? 

Also, please post the full quote, and not this MSM game of pulling one sentence out of a speech to smear a Republican. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 11:53:00 pm »
the PURSUIT of happiness is a Gift of GOD..Guaranteed in the Constitution


the NATION STATE is not a FONT of that Happiness nor could anyone reasonably expect anyone to claim it to be so ...except  in CUBA or IRAN or CHINA...or SOVIET RUSSIA..


The man said what he said...and the context is relatively unimportant as the statement as presented... is a WHOLE thought.     


The Statement CAME from the Donnys Foreign whatever "speech" somewhere !!   TRUMPLAND UBER ALLES!!!
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 11:57:13 pm »
"You didn't build that ...."
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2016, 12:02:49 am »
Quote from: ArneFufkin on April 27, 2016, 11:57:13 pm
"You didn't build that ...."

I know, people like Trump build it and employ the people who work in it.

Great point, Arne!
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2016, 01:02:14 am »
Quote from: geronl on April 27, 2016, 11:39:54 pm
I read about Ogg and his attempts to organize the cave system ghetto...


the worlds FIRST community Organizer ...I'm told!!!   


I give America another generation and then KAFLOP!......sad  to say!
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Quote from: Meshuge Mikey on April 28, 2016, 01:27:20 am

Im certain that you're as aware as I am that  Honey Boo Boo-Americans  do not read material of that nature.


no pitchers!!

A 70 year old guy with hair like his just has to be groovy and should be our next President!
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Quote from: ArneFufkin on April 28, 2016, 01:37:45 am
A 70 year old guy with hair like his just has to be groovy and should be our next President!
'''Trump needs to choose an older running mate so he isn't overshadowed." -LOL
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