(POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

[roamer_1]

To me, the priority is defeating Trump.  Why do you think I keep wanting, against all odds, to see him defeated at the convention?   Because THAT's the only way we're going to defeat Hillary!

That's right. Trump is bound to lose. Without the Conservatives, it is just as guaranteed and predictable as it was for McCain't and Romney. And he *won't* be getting Conservatives. It isn't going to happen.

The best way to beat Hillary is to get behind someone the Conservatives CAN vote for.

[roamer_1]

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer. 

And there's your problem, right there. Are you listening to yourself?

He's OUR Lucifer.

No, he is not.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

It doesn't matter what you want. What matters is what will work. Trump, very predictably, will not work.

[roamer_1]

Look, Jazzhead...you guyz are just pissed that some of us saw a winner when you mocked and mocked and mocked.

And he's going to the next POTUS and you're pissed that you picked a loser...whoever the flavor de jour was at the time.

@Jazzhead

LOL! Back to the 'winner/loser' meme, so very Trumpian. What, is this a football game?

Look, here's a clue: the ONLY way we 'win' is if we get a Conservative elected. The only way to win is being truly represented. What will fix this country is Conservatism, and nothing else will do. EVERYTHING else is loss.

If he is indeed elected, it will be Pyrrhic victory at best. But he will not be elected, because Conservatives aren't going to vote for him. Either way, you're guy is a loser. Big Time.

[Oceander]

Reality: If the "majority" of the GOP voters don't get behind the nominee, it's going to be a tough 4 to 8 years [or much longer] for this country.

Reality: things will be just as bad under Trump as under Clinton, except that it will become clear the GOP tarnished its political bonafides and fell victim to a comprehensive scam based on lies. 

The only way to ensure that the next 4 are better than the last 8 is for the delegates at the convention to vote for Trexit - freedom from Trump. 

[Bigun]

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer.  He's OUR Lucifer.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

You had me fooled for a while David but I'm on to you now!

Have a GREAT day!

"Liberty is a word which, according as it is used, comprehends the most good and the most evil of any in the world. Justly understood it is sacred next to those which we appropriate in divine adoration; but in the mouths of some it means anything, which enervate a necessary government; excite a jealousy of the rulers who are our own choice, and keep society in confusion for want of a power sufficiently concentered to promote good."

Oliver Ellsworth, The Landholder, No. III, November 19, 1787

[Bigun]

Reality: things will be just as bad under Trump as under Clinton, except that it will become clear the GOP tarnished its political bonafides and fell victim to a comprehensive scam based on lies. 

The only way to ensure that the next 4 are better than the last 8 is for the delegates at the convention to vote for Trexit - freedom from Trump.

Reality: Things are going to be bad no matter who gets elected in November!  It's going to take some time to repair the damage done over the last eight years no matter who is at the helm!

[Sanguine]

Reality: Things are going to be bad no matter who gets elected in November!  It's going to take some time to repair the damage done over the last eight years no matter who is at the helm!

And, that's why we need someone competent and committed at the helm.  Someone who has a strong sense of integrity and principles so that they won't be swayed from doing the right thing.

[Bigun]

And, that's why we need someone competent and committed at the helm.  Someone who has a strong sense of integrity and principles so that they won't be swayed from doing the right thing.

 

[Idiot]

Why?

I trusted my life in GWB's hands too!

And Ronald Reagan's.

Look, Jazzhead...you guyz are just pissed that some of us saw a winner when you mocked and mocked and mocked.

And he's going to the next POTUS and you're pissed that you picked a loser...whoever the flavor de jour was at the time.

It makes all your heads explode...to the point the embarrassment of admitting you backed the wrong horse is too much for you to publicly accept.

I understand there's a word for it.......

There is only ONE reason that I would even consider supporting Mr. Trump...the vile, disgusting person that he is.  The supreme court picks.  Possibly it's too late for our country anyway and God is pulling his protective hand away from us, since we've turned our backs on Him.

[Luis Gonzalez]

My point is that no matter what he is, he's represented by millions of Americans and controlled/kept in check by a Republican-led House and Senate.

And an loud minority party with their sympathetic media....

So we should support him in the hopes that if elected he will be kept in check by everything that he symbolizes an opposition to?

What kind of crazy s#it is that!?

[Luis Gonzalez]

My point is that no matter what he is, he's represented by millions of Americans and controlled/kept in check by a Republican-led House and Senate.

And an loud minority party with their sympathetic media....

So...

Scenario #1 - Hillary wins and we hope she's controlled/kept in check by a Republcan-led House and Senate (if we hold both).
 
Scenario #2 - Trump wins and we hope he's controlled/kept in check by a Republican-led House and Senate (if we hold both).

Haven't you you've been busy trying to convince us that your Lucifer is better than their Lucifer while we've been saying that there isn't any difference between the two

I rest my case.

[wolfcreek]

So,even you are saying there will be no change.

 I really wish we had the option to vote for someone that puts America ahead of self,but it looks like those days are gone forever.

Nope, that's not what I said.

Tell me this Pete, if you were a 70 year old billionaire with a beautiful wife and loving children, would you take time out of your life to run for President? If so, what would possess you to do so?

[wolfcreek]

"The problem" are the people thought Obama would make a better President than McCain and voted him into office.

"The problem" are those people who thought Obama would make a better President than Romney, and re-elected him.

"The problem" are the millions of people who think that a Socialist, an unconvicted felon, or a reality TV star make up the very best that this country, the country that gave the world Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan, have to offer as a leader.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

What about the "people" who were too good, too proud, to stuck on principle, etc. to vote for opponents of BHO? Isn't that who we're really talking about?

[wolfcreek]

He's YOUR Lucifer.

I accept no Lucifer.

Except the Luciferian Skull and Bones Bush family.

[Sanguine]

What about the "people" who were too good, too proud, to stuck on principle, etc. to vote for opponents of BHO? Isn't that who we're really talking about?

I don't think so.  I think most of the people here voted against 0bama.

[wolfcreek]

Reality: things will be just as bad under Trump as under Clinton, except that it will become clear the GOP tarnished its political bonafides and fell victim to a comprehensive scam based on lies. 

The only way to ensure that the next 4 are better than the last 8 is for the delegates at the convention to vote for Trexit - freedom from Trump.

The GOP's 'bonafides' sailed long before Trump came on the scene. They've been a laughing stock and basically a non-factor at stopping the Obama agenda or the Progressive movement in general.

It's time to move on. Bring on the Revolution!

[wolfcreek]

You had me fooled for a while David but I'm on to you now!

Have a GREAT day!

"Liberty is a word which, according as it is used, comprehends the most good and the most evil of any in the world. Justly understood it is sacred next to those which we appropriate in divine adoration; but in the mouths of some it means anything, which enervate a necessary government; excite a jealousy of the rulers who are our own choice, and keep society in confusion for want of a power sufficiently concentered to promote good."

Oliver Ellsworth, The Landholder, No. III, November 19, 1787

You can't use people's real names on here.

[wolfcreek]

And, that's why we need someone competent and committed at the helm.  Someone who has a strong sense of integrity and principles so that they won't be swayed from doing the right thing.

Like someone to do something about the rotten trade deals, the rotten bailout to banks etc, the wide open borders, the constant flow of illegals taking jobs and our tax money, the over-regulation and multiple taxes to support ridiculous ideas like ObamaCare?? Any of those ring a bell?

Trump promised to fix these things. If there's no progress after 4 years, he's outta there. If Hillary is elected, all those things get worse.

[wolfcreek]

I don't think so.  I think most of the people here voted against 0bama.

I know I did.

[INVAR]

The GOP's 'bonafides' sailed long before Trump came on the scene. They've been a laughing stock and basically a non-factor at stopping the Obama agenda or the Progressive movement in general.

It's time to move on. Bring on the Revolution!

Right!~  So militantly support a lifelong Liberal Democrat crony Fascist who supported Clinton; endorsed , funded, campaigned and voted for a KNOWN COMMUNIST for NYC mayor less than 3 years ago; and who just several weeks ago endorsed a pro-Amnesty, pro-abortion Liberal for Congress against stalwart Conservatives.

You have no "revolution' to stop the Progressive movement in Trump.   None.

All you got is a Trojan Horse sent to do one thing: wipe out Conservatism from within the Ruling Class Parties.

So you wave palm fronds in front of another Leftist and claim him your king.  "Your Lucifer"  because he decided to run with an 'R' after his name after consulting with Bill and Hillary.

Brilliant "revolution".

[INVAR]

Like someone to do something about the rotten trade deals, the rotten bailout to banks etc, the wide open borders, the constant flow of illegals taking jobs and our tax money, the over-regulation and multiple taxes to support ridiculous ideas like ObamaCare?? Any of those ring a bell?

Trump promised to fix these things.

The only way Trump fixes ANY of those *suggestions* (which are of course negotiable and on the table, along with our 2nd Amendment Rights according to his campaign spokesman yesterday), is if your Lucifer rules with a pen and phone, just like his predecessor.

Which according to the Trump Militant, is exactly what they want.

Another dictator.  As long as he is theirs.

[wolfcreek]

Right!~  So militantly support a lifelong Liberal Democrat crony Fascist who supported Clinton; endorsed , funded, campaigned and voted for a KNOWN COMMUNIST for NYC mayor less than 3 years ago; and who just several weeks ago endorsed a pro-Amnesty, pro-abortion Liberal for Congress against stalwart Conservatives.

You have no "revolution' to stop the Progressive movement in Trump.   None.

All you got is a Trojan Horse sent to do one thing: wipe out Conservatism from within the Ruling Class Parties.

So you wave palm fronds in front of another Leftist and claim him your king.  "Your Lucifer"  because he decided to run with an 'R' after his name after consulting with Bill and Hillary.

Brilliant "revolution".

My only KING is my savior Jesus Christ.

You can now stop with all your silly, uppity sounding insinuations about WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT ME!

 Understand?

[Sanguine]

Like someone to do something about the rotten trade deals, the rotten bailout to banks etc, the wide open borders, the constant flow of illegals taking jobs and our tax money, the over-regulation and multiple taxes to support ridiculous ideas like ObamaCare?? Any of those ring a bell?

Trump promised to fix these things. If there's no progress after 4 years, he's outta there. If Hillary is elected, all those things get worse.

How do you leap from what I said to your response? 

[wolfcreek]

How do you leap from what I said to your response?

Because you think just because you don't believe Trump has honor and integrity that he can't get things done.

Fact is we need a real SOB to get these sort of things accomplished. Someone with grit and determination.

[INVAR]

My only KING is my savior Jesus Christ.

You can now stop with all your silly, uppity sounding insinuations about WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT ME!

 Understand?

And Trump claims he is a practicing Christian too.

Yet the words and the fruits do not add up.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

And so did you. 

Even going so far as to call another poster here a racist and a traitor because of his ethnicity and his refusal to genuflect your prince, and then you doubled down on it - justifying the charges.

You claim Christ, yet seek for a vulgar "real SOB" to rule.  Those two claims do not add up.