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“The notion that Moroccan-Belgians suffer from widespread exclusion, discrimination, and suppression is ridiculous”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/the-notion-that-moroccan-belgians-suffer-from-widespread-exclusion-discrimination-and-suppression-is-ridiculous

March 31, 2016 6:37 pm By Robert Spencer 

This article is an exceptionally well-reasoned antidote to the prevailing notion that Muslims in Europe are committing jihad murder because Europeans are so very, very mean to them.
 

“Europe’s Muslims hate the West,” by Leon de Winter, Politico, March 29, 2016:

    The first reaction to the Brussels massacres among postmodern European intellectuals was predictable: What did we, Europeans, do to them, our Muslims? How could followers of a religion that is proudly called “the religion of peace” commit these kinds of atrocities?

    People like Peter Vandermeersch, the Belgian editor-in-chief of Dutch newspaper NRC-Handelsblad, and Belgian writer David Van Reybrouck, both accomplished intellectuals, argued that Belgium must have done something terrible to deserve this. Their line of reasoning: The terrorists’ fury must be a reaction to their inhumane treatment at the hands of the West.

    So, we blame ourselves in order to remain blameless. Safer to blame our own societies and socioeconomic conditions than to blame the religious and cultural concepts with which terrorists poison their own minds.

    According to reports, the unemployment figure in Brussels’ infamous Molenbeek neighborhood — now referred to as the jihadi hothouse of Europe — is 30 percent. This is a relatively high figure in Western Europe, but not unusual in southern European countries or the Arab world. There is poverty in Molenbeek, but that poverty is relative. There is no starvation, no homelessness, no lack of medical infrastructure, no lack of schools.

    Compared to average living standards in Morocco or Egypt, the average living standard in Molenbeek is comfortably middle-class. Like in any other Western European country, many Belgian institutions and organizations offer support when families need housing, food, education, and health care. Opportunities for success, and to study and become a respected member in society, are countless compared to those that exist in many immigrants’ countries of origin. Still, there is deep resentment among the younger generations of immigrant Moroccan families.

    Immigration into the Netherlands from Morocco and Turkey is an expensive phenomenon for the taxpayer: In the modern welfare state immigrants are more dependent on the welfare state than the average citizen. Because of a lack of higher education and the lack of non-skilled jobs, immigrants absorb a higher part of unemployment and social security payments than the average citizen. As a group, they receive more money than they pay in taxes. They also show up much higher in crime statistics than their numbers would justify. There are many success stories, but there are also disappointing trends. Like radicalization. And the situation in Belgium is even worse.

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    There is no question that unemployment is much higher among Muslim immigrant communities than among the general public. There are two possible explanations.

    The first goes something like this: The Belgian people are terribly xenophobic and anti-Moroccan, and deny their Moroccan neighbors opportunities to succeed in life. But if this were the case, the theory can be applied to every Western European country, as unemployment figures for Moroccan and other Muslim migrants across Europe are remarkably higher than average. This would indicate that European xenophobia has reached unbearable levels. Why would Muslims choose to stay in societies that showed such deep disrespect for their migrant population? Because they realize that an unemployed citizen in a European welfare state run by infidels has a better material life than an employed citizen in pious Morocco?

    The notion that Moroccan-Belgians suffer from widespread exclusion, discrimination, and suppression is ridiculous — and yet completely acceptable among the politically-correct crowd. Life in Belgium is exceptionally good and safe for migrants — if they are willing to integrate into their new cultural environment, if they are willing to act as individuals, study with passion and openness, and accept the secular system of the West….
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Offline Frenchfrye

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Unemployement is very high in Europe, especially for arabs whom have the very bad reputation, to cry and claim being exploited when you re asking them to do what they are paied for.

However it s false to say there is no jobs,  simply social benefits are  higher than minimal wage, so many conplain to be jobless but don't want to have one:
free lunch for kids, lower electricity/water price, free train,free bus, free cultural activity, half prices movie ticket and subzidized home+ Money benefits...to remember education in Europe (Belgium) is free of fees for poors as healthcare.


Welfare State.

Sorry for my english.
A European
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Being a French conservative is not a choice, it's heaven's curse or bless, who knows.
Sorry for the orthograph i am not US citizen nor english native speaker.



“I am a Conservative to preserve all that is good in our constitution, a Radical to remove all that is bad. I seek to preserve property and to respect order, and I equally decry the appeal to the passions of the many or the prejudices of the few.” Benjamin Disraeli

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Hey Frenchie, 

No worries.  It's the thought that counts.  Not the speeling. er spelling. :beer:

Offline Frenchfrye

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Thanks.
 :beer: belgium beer is very good... shame for non-drinker. But Wine is better, not just Chardonnay.

France Have mainly algerians-Tunisian
 Belgians have moroccans, but not only & Netherlands have mainly Moroccans.
Moroccan are the best (or lesser evil) of the Nothern-African. 

European's politicians knew this since long ago : Powell Rivers of Blood Speech. Without Immigrants left and center right would have been swept away.

if i don't exactly know what left & center right imply in america, in French-speaking continental europe :
-left is democratic socialist ( officially marxist, with a Real commie left wing, "gulag wasn't that terrible & so on, forbidding the "private" education. Of course they don't do it, but they would if it was possible.
center right recognize the principle of private enterprise & social free market under state control for the common good, with State monopolies like :
 education, College, electricity, energy, social & healthcare, railroad, post, ..... Even Bernie Sanders is more right-wing than many of the center-right parties of Belgium french speaker/France/Italy/Greece.

Only our far right party (40% at our last election,a  national-socialist ) is for Trump...so i am not sure he is the good guy.


Still Sorry for my spelling.
Being a French conservative is not a choice, it's heaven's curse or bless, who knows.
Sorry for the orthograph i am not US citizen nor english native speaker.



“I am a Conservative to preserve all that is good in our constitution, a Radical to remove all that is bad. I seek to preserve property and to respect order, and I equally decry the appeal to the passions of the many or the prejudices of the few.” Benjamin Disraeli