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British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« on: March 30, 2016, 01:22:10 am »
"Although colonizing the Moon would be simpler, it is only 3 days away, Mars represents a more interesting challenge,"



Mars will be colonized by humans in the next 100 years, famous British scientist Stephen Hawking said in an exclusive interview with TASS on Monday.


"NASA, and other space agencies around the world, are focused on Mars. It is our closest earth-like planet, with soil and an atmosphere. Although colonizing the Moon would be simpler, it is only 3 days away, Mars represents a more interesting challenge, and would require the colony to be truly self-sufficient," Hawking said.


"Within 100 years, I have no doubt, there will be humans living on Mars. To do this we need investment, allowing us to advance our knowledge, on how to survive the dangers of cosmic radiation, body deterioration, and how to deal with the lack of vital supplies beyond Earth," he concluded.


Source: http://www.interstellar-news.net/2016/03/british-scientist-hawking-says-mars.html
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 11:39:16 am »
The meteor belts are more likely given the possibilities of mining valuable ores.
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2016, 11:57:34 am »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 30, 2016, 11:39:16 am
The meteor belts are more likely given the possibilities of mining valuable ores.

Exploited? Hell yes.

Live there? Nope. Or not until someone works out a hack for the law of gravitation. Microgravity does brutal things to beings designed for a defined up and down. Main long term thing, of course, is that conception simply doesn't happen in microgravity conditions.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2016, 01:21:50 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 30, 2016, 11:57:34 am
Exploited? Hell yes.

Live there? Nope. Or not until someone works out a hack for the law of gravitation. Microgravity does brutal things to beings designed for a defined up and down. Main long term thing, of course, is that conception simply doesn't happen in microgravity conditions.

You'll have to have people up there to run the operations, so that will most likely be the test bed for technologies that eventually end up being used to colonize Mars. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2016, 01:30:06 pm »
That ticks me off some times. God gave us a test bed and it's only a quarter million miles away.

Have we used it? Nope.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2016, 01:35:42 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 30, 2016, 01:30:06 pm
That ticks me off some times. God gave us a test bed and it's only a quarter million miles away.

Have we used it? Nope.

Moons a little different.  I agree it would be a good sandbox to test things in though.  However, the Moon shot was for political ends that more or less disappeared when the Soviet Union collapsed so I doubt there will ever be sufficient political will to spend the billions and billions needed.  Private enterprise, on the other hand ....
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2016, 01:40:36 pm »
NASA is saying 10 billion for a viable moonbase now, so not horrendously costly for basically opening up another continent. One that doesn't need genocide to expand on!
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2016, 01:42:20 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 30, 2016, 01:40:36 pm
NASA is saying 10 billion for a viable moonbase now, so not horrendously costly for basically opening up another continent. One that doesn't need genocide to expand on!

Where is the political will to spend that money?
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 02:01:41 am »
Quote from: EC on March 30, 2016, 11:57:34 am
Exploited? Hell yes.

Live there? Nope. Or not until someone works out a hack for the law of gravitation. Microgravity does brutal things to beings designed for a defined up and down. Main long term thing, of course, is that conception simply doesn't happen in microgravity conditions.

I think humans can live on asteroids.. Granted if they ever try to set foot on Earth those born on the asteroids would die cause of the Gravity.
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 02:06:38 am »
They'll probably be Chinese.

Paid for by American debt!

We certainly won't have any money left to fund such an undertaking...
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 02:10:05 am »
Wouldn't be any births.

It was one of the earlier experiments in Skylab. Tried breeding mice who had been shown to be fertile pairings on Earth. No dice in microgravity. Spiders, same. The Russians tried fertilized eggs - they never hatched.  :shrug:

Not saying it's impossible, but a billion years or so has conditioned most living things to having an up and a down.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 02:13:16 am »
I know I won't be around to witness it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2016, 02:18:19 am »
If they could give me 80% odds of getting there and setting down in one piece - I'd be already packed.
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2016, 02:18:32 am »
Quote from: EC on March 31, 2016, 02:10:05 am
Wouldn't be any births.

It was one of the earlier experiments in Skylab. Tried breeding mice who had been shown to be fertile pairings on Earth. No dice in microgravity. Spiders, same. The Russians tried fertilized eggs - they never hatched.  :shrug:

Not saying it's impossible, but a billion years or so has conditioned most living things to having an up and a down.


Well if the main place the belters live it could be Ceres..
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 02:19:13 am »
Quote from: EC on March 31, 2016, 02:18:19 am
If they could give me 80% odds of getting there and setting down in one piece - I'd be already packed.


To be honest I'm ready to move to Alpha Centauri..
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Re: British scientist Hawking says Mars will be colonized by humans in next 100 years
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2016, 02:23:39 am »
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Well if the main place the belters live it could be Ceres..

Larry Niven proposed something like that. Find a decent size asteroid, hollow it out and put some spin on it. Use that as the place women go to get and stay pregnant. Not a terrible idea.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2016, 02:26:19 am »
Quote from: EC on March 31, 2016, 02:23:39 am
Larry Niven proposed something like that. Find a decent size asteroid, hollow it out and put some spin on it. Use that as the place women go to get and stay pregnant. Not a terrible idea.


No it isn't..  The bad part is that Belters who are born in the Belt can't visit Earth..
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2016, 12:11:58 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on March 31, 2016, 02:06:38 am
They'll probably be Chinese.

Paid for by American debt!

We certainly won't have any money left to fund such an undertaking...

Huh?  We've issued the debt to the Chinese, which means we have the money and they have the (useless) paper.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2016, 07:30:03 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 30, 2016, 01:21:50 pm
You'll have to have people up there to run the operations

Don't count on it. Robots are the future of risky space operations.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2016, 07:31:01 pm »
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Don't count on it. Robots are the future of risky space operations.

Not until you have fully functional AI.  Running a mining operation is not like running a punky little rover on Mars.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2016, 07:32:24 pm »
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Not until you have fully functional AI.  Running a mining operation is not like running a punky little rover on Mars.

I think we'll probably have some pretty bad ass AI by the time we're ready to mine the asteroid belt.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 07:35:22 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on March 31, 2016, 07:32:24 pm
I think we'll probably have some pretty bad ass AI by the time we're ready to mine the asteroid belt.

I have serious reservations about that, very serious reservations.  AI is so much more complicated than anyone ever imagined.
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2016, 07:36:03 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on March 31, 2016, 07:30:03 pm
Don't count on it. Robots are the future of risky space operations.


Gotta disagree with you..
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2016, 07:40:29 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 31, 2016, 07:35:22 pm
I have serious reservations about that, very serious reservations.  AI is so much more complicated than anyone ever imagined.

Think about how far down the road all of this probably is. I can't even imagine what goes into creating a fully functional mining facility 400 million kilometers from Earth. I think we're talking a couple centuries at least.
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2016, 07:41:18 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on March 31, 2016, 07:36:03 pm

Gotta disagree with you..

Why would we endanger human lives when we could use robots instead?
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