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Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« on: March 27, 2016, 04:35:10 pm »
Well, the leftist MSN has tried everything else so I guess they figured they would dig up George Wallage...again. And try to smear him ...again.  It is a tired old playbook they have.
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By BILL BARROW, Associated Press
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http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politics/article/Trump-Echoes-of-George-Wallace-7026481.php

ATLANTA — One presidential candidate pledged to "Stand up for America." Two generations later, another promises to "Make America Great Again." Their common denominator: convincing certain Americans that their version of the United States is under threat.

Donald Trump, leader for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, has never said he's following the playbook of Alabama Gov. George Wallace, who achieved national stature on his promise of "segregation now, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever," then made four failed bids for the White House from 1964 to 1976.

Instead, Trump invokes the anger of "the silent majority," a phrase he's resurrected from the era of Wallace and President Richard Nixon, who won in 1968 and 1972 in part by co-opting Wallace's racially charged populism.

Trump detractors hear more than a faint echo of Wallace in Trump's anti-establishment mix of economic protectionism and blunt nativism, and they note that the brash billionaire, like Wallace, has drawn similar results in the campaign: tense rallies that often involve violent clashes among protesters, police and the candidate's supporters.


"Trump is taking his campaign straight to the haters, and he's gotten the roots of that old Wallace crowd," says Joe Reed, a black Democratic Party broker in Alabama who came to know the four-term governor toward the end of his life, when he had abandoned his segregationist positions, long after a would-be assassin left him paralyzed.

The comparison offends Trump backers.

"George Wallace was a racist," said Debbie Dooley, a national tea party leader. "It's totally ridiculous for anybody to think the same about Donald Trump." She argues Trump's independence from "the money that controls Washington, D.C." outweigh his caustic rhetoric on immigration, Muslims and the protesters — many of them young and black — who interrupt his rallies.

"Donald Trump is not preaching hate," Dooley said. "He's standing up for the American workers and the American people."

Trump offers his outsized personality as an all-purpose antidote to a country that is "falling apart" and "never wins anymore."

The overwhelmingly white throngs at Trump rallies roar at his mention of a border wall and heartily approve his call to stop all non-citizen Muslims from entering the United States. Supporters cheer his promises to protect gun rights and share his lament that Christianity is under attack. They applaud his threats of punitive tariffs on imports from countries "killing us on trade."

Wallace, meanwhile, fueled his strongest campaigns in 1968 and 1972 with a wide-ranging critique of a society in decline. He modified the overtly racist language he used in his Alabama campaigns, fashioning himself instead as a "states' rights" conservative. He complained of rising crime and a "sick Supreme Court" that outlawed compulsory school prayer and allowed pornography.

Wallace, political historian Dan T. Carter said, "had all these ways of getting across what he meant" without explicitly mentioning race or class. "He said 'inner-city thugs,' and everybody knew he was talking about young black men in the cities."

Tom Turnipseed, who managed Wallace's 1968 campaign and became a civil rights activist, assigned the same motivation to Trump and Wallace. "Fear," he told The Associated Press.

"You can scare folks with that line that the Mexicans are coming because everyday working people ... see Mexicans in the labor market and it hurts their wages — they think of it that way, at least," Turnipseed said. "Governor Wallace, you know, did the same with African-Americans."

In his book "The Politics of Rage," Carter identifies Wallace and his play for working-class white votes as the model for the "Southern strategy" that Nixon and Ronald Reagan would use to win four landslide elections in 20 years.

Nixon wrote in his memoirs of having to navigate Wallace so he would not "draw a large number of conservative votes from me." Nixon protected his right flank by criticizing court-ordered busing of schoolchildren to accomplish integration, vowing to impose "law and order" and declaring the "War on Drugs," which an aide later described as a targeting of "hippies" and blacks.

Trump is the latest heir of all this, Carter said.

"When you hear Trump supporters say he 'tells like it is' or 'he's not politically correct,'" Carter said, "what they're really saying, many of them, is ... 'I love it, because it's what I believe, too.'"

Protesters, meanwhile, become evidence of the national decay that only the candidate's tough leadership can reverse.

When activists interrupted his rally at Madison Square Garden in 1968, Wallace asked why Democratic and Republican leaders "kowtow to these anarchists." He added, "We don't have riots in Alabama. They start a riot down there, first one of 'em to pick up a brick gets a bullet in the brain, that's all."

Trump has pined for "the old days" when such "animals" would be "carried out on a stretcher, folks." He orders security to "get 'em the hell outta here" and said of one protester, "I'd like to punch him in the face."

Reed acknowledged there are "working white folks who are mad" but says Trump, like Wallace, has them "turning their arrows at the wrong folks."

Trump denies he is playing to racism or xenophobia. His supporters "aren't angry people," he says, just frustrated "about the way the country is being run."

"What are we looking for, OK, all of us?" Trump asked after declaring that families, jobs, homes and health care face existential threats. "We're looking for security. We're looking for safety. We're looking for family, and taking care of our family, right?"

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 04:46:02 pm »
Trump is EXACTLY like George Wallace, using fear to appeal to the less-educated, emotional, us-versus-them voters.  Back then, it was blacks.  Today, Mexicans and Muslims.

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 04:52:28 pm »
Trump is EXACTLY like George Wallace, using fear to appeal to the less-educated, emotional, us-versus-them voters.  Back then, it was blacks.  Today, Mexicans and Muslims.

And we are off. 

Well leaving that aside for a momment this was meant to be more of a commentary on the tired old hacks in the liberal media that us the Racist label at every turn.   There are a lot of other reasons to reject Trump...but they take the easy way out. 

On a side note

Turnipseed?  Lord, that poor bastard must have had it rough growing up.

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 05:03:15 pm »
And we are off. 

Well leaving that aside for a momment this was meant to be more of a commentary on the tired old hacks in the liberal media that us the Racist label at every turn.   There are a lot of other reasons to reject Trump...but they take the easy way out. 

On a side note

Turnipseed?  Lord, that poor bastard must have had it rough growing up.

Stuart Stevens, Mitt Romney's campaign manager, was the first person I heard comparing Trump to Wallace:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0syaF7Dim0
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 07:13:16 pm »
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"George Wallace was a racist," said Debbie Dooley, a national tea party leader. "It's totally ridiculous for anybody to think the same about Donald Trump." She argues Trump's independence from "the money that controls Washington, D.C." outweigh his caustic rhetoric on immigration, Muslims and the protesters — many of them young and black — who interrupt his rallies.

"Donald Trump is not preaching hate," Dooley said. "He's standing up for the American workers and the American people."

Trump offers his outsized personality as an all-purpose antidote to a country that is "falling apart" and "never wins anymore."
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Bill Barrow is not the worst of the AP propagandists but one would think he could have found someone a little more representative of mainstream conservative/Tea Party thought than that spectacular flake/climate alarmist Debbie Dooley:

http://spectator.org/articles/62540/hang-down-your-head-debbie-dooley

And, Debbie, Trump will be "immune from the money that controls Washington D.C."?   Really?   His entire career and fortune were built on being a venal crony to the corrupt politics and money that controls Democrat strongholds like Manhattan, Chicago, Miami, Puerto Rico, Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Panama etc.   Trump supporters operate in a world of delusion.  It's scary.


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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 07:35:54 pm »
I'm confused? I thought that since Obama, racism was back in style. The Blacks are becoming proud racists, with Obama cheering them on. They want to go back to the 1950s.

Isn't it 'racist' to say that Blacks can be racists but Whites cannot be racists?

What could be more racist than that?
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 12:41:15 am »
If George Wallace was running today, I might even vote for him.

So there.

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I would -most certainly- vote for him before I would cast a vote for ¡Jeb!, or for Rubio, or Kasich!

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 12:48:33 am »
If George Wallace was running today, I might even vote for him.

So there.

Addendum:
I would -most certainly- vote for him before I would cast a vote for ¡Jeb!, or for Rubio, or Kasich!

If you would vote for the George Wallace who converted his racist views after he nearly bought the farm in 1973, I admire you.

If you would vote for the George Wallace who stood in the University door blocking black kids from going to college, then I don't.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 02:53:08 am »
If you would vote for the George Wallace who converted his racist views after he nearly bought the farm in 1973, I admire you.

If you would vote for the George Wallace who stood in the University door blocking black kids from going to college, then I don't.

Agreed.

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2016, 11:44:09 am »
Trump is EXACTLY like George Wallace, using fear to appeal to the less-educated, emotional, us-versus-them voters.  Back then, it was blacks.  Today, Mexicans and Muslims.

What's your suggestion for control of illegal immigration and Syrian refugees?

Or, do you simply not see this as a problem?

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 11:46:44 am »
What's your suggestion for control of illegal immigration and Syrian refugees?

Or, do you simply not see this as a problem?

Strawman argument.  Neither Trump nor Wallace (in his old incarnation) is or would be a solution to either. 

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Re: Trump: Echoes of George Wallace
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 11:49:00 am »
Strawman argument. 

Asking how you would control illegal immigration and the flow of Syrian refugees is a "strawman" argument?

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