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...While it’s true Cruz has picked up some endorsements after Marco Rubio dropped out of the race, this doesn’t mean Cruz is now an official part of the Washington Establishment. Remember, it was Trump who attacked Cruz for not having a single fellow senator endorse him because he’s “nasty” and “everybody hates him.” So, which is it? Should he have their endorsements or not?....

....While anyone—Establishment or not—is free to endorse him, it’s Cruz’s actions that determine where he stands as far as Washington politics goes, not who endorses him. And when it comes to his actions—he’s definitely against the status quo....

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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 03:41:06 am »
"....While anyone—Establishment or not—is free to endorse him, it’s Cruz’s actions that determine where he stands as far as Washington politics goes, not who endorses him. And when it comes to his actions—he’s definitely against the status quo...."

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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 03:54:19 am »
The "anti-establishment" candidate with endorsements from Romney, JebBush, Graham, Rove, and Goldman Sachs and a sitting member of the Senate?

These lines just write themselves. Next thing it will be settled law he is a natural born citizen, because he says so himself.

So brilliant he spoke of "New York Values" before their primary.

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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 04:02:00 am »
The "anti-establishment" candidate with endorsements from Romney, JebBush, Graham, Rove, and Goldman Sachs and a sitting member of the Senate?

These lines just write themselves. Next thing it will be settled law he is a natural born citizen, because he says so himself.

So brilliant he spoke of "New York Values" before their primary.

Ah, but Remember, it was Trump who attacked Cruz for not having a single fellow senator endorse him because he’s “nasty” and “everybody hates him.” Consequently, Trump himself has pointed out that Cruz is NOT establishment!  Now, he's being attacked because he's getting endorsements ... and I would hardly consider Mike Lee establishment!!

Cruz is a natural born citizen ... because he IS!

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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 04:23:17 am »

Cruz is a natural born citizen ... because he IS!

You telling me he is a NBC carries no weight. There is no legal precedent that you can cite, and there have been exactly ZERO Presidents born outside the US.

So it is clearly NOT settled, as much as you and his supporters wish it were. And it is not likely to be settled, hence Hillary will have it available to plant doubt, just as Mr. Trump warned.

Should he gain the nomination I predict he will be very soundly defeated, for he is well outside the mainstream of the electorate.

And as for the massive mental lapse, speaking of "New York Values" makes me doubt he is as smart as people claim.

Finally I read that people find him to be not likeable. That is an historic measure for winning Presidential elections, btw. And from 538:

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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2016, 04:25:55 am »
The "anti-establishment" candidate with endorsements from Romney, JebBush, Graham, Rove, and Goldman Sachs and a sitting member of the Senate?

These lines just write themselves. Next thing it will be settled law he is a natural born citizen, because he says so himself.

So brilliant he spoke of "New York Values" before their primary.

And Trump isn't ?  The difference between Ted Cruz and Trump is that the Establishment is getting behind Cruz only because Trump isn't Republican or Conservative.  They don't have another option.  We'll take the support!  All of those people that are establishment are supported also by Republicans.  Too sad for Trump the liberal.
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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 04:39:40 am »
And Trump isn't ?  The difference between Ted Cruz and Trump is that the Establishment is getting behind Cruz only because Trump isn't Republican or Conservative.  They don't have another option.  We'll take the support!  All of those people that are establishment are supported also by Republicans.  Too sad for Trump the liberal.

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Re: Trump or Cruz: Who Is the Real Anti-Establishment Candidate Here?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 06:08:28 am »
The "anti-establishment" candidate with endorsements from Romney, JebBush, Graham, Rove, and Goldman Sachs and a sitting member of the Senate?

These lines just write themselves. Next thing it will be settled law he is a natural born citizen, because he says so himself.

So brilliant he spoke of "New York Values" before their primary.

So if Trump gets the nomination, I take it you don't want their support and the rest of the party to unify behind him?
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