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March 23, 2016
US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
By Rick Moran

US intelligence officials pulled no punches yesterday in their criticism of their Belgium counterparts. They say they had constantly wanred Brussels about the terrorism in their midst and that authorities had no clue how to address the problem.

Daily Beast:

    A senior U.S. intelligence officer likened the Belgian security forces to “children.”

    “It’s really shitty tradecraft,” the agent told The Daily Beast.

    Brussels has become a hotbed of terrorism—concentrated in  the Molenbeek district near the city center—and yet the Belgians have made little progress in disrupting a network of violent extremists linked to last year’s Paris attacks that killed 130 people.

    Even before the arrest last week in Brussels of Salah Abdeslam, a suspected terrorist behind the Paris attack, there were worries among many U.S. counter terrorism officials of an attack in Belgium. The Belgian authorities had long struggled to resource a counter terrorism campaign. At the same time, it ostracized its burgeoning minority communities, creating isolated enclaves like Molenbeek where potential jihadists could easily hide.

    After Abdeslam's arrest, many in Belgium feared a retaliatory attack. But while U.S. officials sought to help as part of a growing push for U.S. and European cooperation, there were limits, given Belgium’s limited security resources and amid a growing migration community from places like Syria.

    News of today’s attack was met in some parts of Washington with resigned frustration.

    “There was only so much we could do to help,” one official explained to the Daily Beast.

    “Belgium has been stepping up the amount of people they’re devoting to intelligence and law enforcement but they’re playing catch-up and we’re seeing the terrible results of that today,” Rep. Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said on MSNBC.

    Indeed, an official said there were warnings as recent as this weekend.

    A frustrated U.S. intelligence official bemoaned the state of the counterterrorism apparatus in Belgium and across Europe.

    “Even with the EU in general, there’s an infiltration of jihadists that’s been happening for two decades. And now they’re just starting to work on this. When we have to contact these people or send our guys over to talk to them, we’re essentially talking with people who are—I’m just going to put it bluntly—children. These are not pro-active, they’re don’t know what’s going on. They’re in such denial. It’s such a frightening thing to admit their country is being taken over.”

Belgium is further handicapped by the fact that it is believed more than 500 jihadists have returned from the fight in Syria and have either been radicalized by Islamic State or given specific tasks by the terror group. Authorities know pretty much who they all are, but as the article notes, they are short of people to keep track of them. It takes about 100 security personnel to keep constant surveillance on one terrorist. Few nations in Europe have the resources to accomplish that goal.

In America, we are in a little better shape because our problem with jihadists numbers in the dozens rather than the hundreds. But as the Boston Marathon bombing showed. even suspected terrorists can fall through the cracks. Of far more concern are American born Muslims who have been radicalized here. They tend not to appear on anyone's radar until they carry out an attack.

Europe is playing catch up in their counterterrorism efforts. It is a virtual certainty until they can devote the resources necessary to protect their citizens, more such attacks will occur.

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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 12:13:56 pm »
I remember Imam Obama comparing ISIS to the minor league which turned out to be quite inaccurate.  It seems to me this "senior intelligence official" just invited an attack by ISIS to prove his theory wrong. 888blackhat
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 01:40:15 pm »
 "A senior U.S. intelligence officer likened the Belgian security forces to “children.”

    “It’s really shitty tradecraft,” the agent told The Daily Beast."

So is dumping on the very people in public that you may need information or cooperation from in the very near future.

A true PROFESSIONAL would have kept  his ego-driven big yap shut in public,and gone there to whisper a few QUIET words of comfort and some suggestions into his Belgian counterparts ear.

This pompous ass,who is almost certainly a self-obsessed political appointee, needs to have his ass fired in a VERY public way. If this doesn't happen,look for our other intelligence allies in Europe as well as elsewhere to shut down any more than the absolute minimum amount of cooperation with us,one by one.
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2016, 01:45:50 pm »

   .... A frustrated U.S. intelligence official bemoaned the state of the counterterrorism apparatus in Belgium and across Europe.

    “Even with the EU in general, there’s an infiltration of jihadists that’s been happening for two decades. And now they’re just starting to work on this. When we have to contact these people or send our guys over to talk to them, we’re essentially talking with people who are—I’m just going to put it bluntly—children. These are not pro-active, they’re don’t know what’s going on. They’re in such denial. It’s such a frightening thing to admit their country is being taken over.”



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EVERY US intelligence official and politician should be required to look at themselves in a mirror at least once a day and repeat those words to him or herself. Especially the politicians,who make excuses for Islam because they want the votes and the campaign contributions.
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 02:13:37 pm »
If US intelligence officials are doing everything right, how do they explain San Bernardino?
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 02:32:04 pm »
If US intelligence officials are doing everything right, how do they explain San Bernardino?

US intelligence officers do MOST things right. There is no such thing as perfect intelligence,not even in this day of instant communications because people are people,and apt to change their minds and their plan at any instant.

It does have to be said that OURtechnical  intelligence capabilities are so far in advance of a tiny country like Belgium that there is no comparison. This does NOT mean that their intelligence professionals are any less profession than ours (look at what the US intel dummy said for proof of this),or any less dedicated to doing their jobs. They just have less to work with.

Plus,they have the same problem we do with egotistical idiot politicians and political appointees stabbing them in the back by releasing intel to the press while it is still active,being forced to treat intel reports in a PC manner,etc,etc,etc. Truth to tell,they probably have more trouble with their politicians than we do because theirs are almost entirely One Worlders.

At any rate,the fault in this incident lies more on the shoulders of the US Intel dummy that dumped on his Belgian colleague. You   just don't do that. You contact them quietly and offer your help,you don't slam them in the press.
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016, 03:10:24 pm »
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At any rate,the fault in this incident lies more on the shoulders of the US Intel dummy that dumped on his Belgian colleague. You   just don't do that. You contact them quietly and offer your help,you don't slam them in the press.
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2016, 05:30:12 pm »
I have no doubt Belgian intelligence officials are heavily constrained by the EU socialists and bureaucrats who squat and plot in Brussels and who run the kangaroo World Court next door in The Hague.

These are the same people who designed the disastrous Schengen Visa scheme and opened the door for the invasion of young male Muslim vagrants in the first place.
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Re: US intelligence officials bash Belgium security forces as 'children'
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2016, 06:13:50 pm »
I have no doubt Belgian intelligence officials are heavily constrained by the EU socialists and bureaucrats who squat and plot in Brussels and who run the kangaroo World Court next door in The Hague.

These are the same people who designed the disastrous Schengen Visa scheme and opened the door for the invasion of young male Muslim vagrants in the first place.

Excellent observations,and no doubt true.
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