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« on: March 23, 2016, 10:08:03 am »

State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’

(CNSNews.com) – Tuesday’s terrorist attack in Brussels was not about religion but a “depraved ideology,” State Department spokesman John Kirby told reporters.

“This isn’t about a religion,” he said. “This is about a warped and brutal, depraved ideology that continues to be attractive to a small number of people in the Muslim faith – radicals and extremists.”

“And we don’t believe that it is indicative in any way of the Muslim faith or the people who practice Islam as a religion,” Kirby continued. “But it is a group that remains deadly, remains lethal. And we are going to remain focused on defeating them.”

Kirby was asked about Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump reaction to the deadly attack in the Belgian capital. In interviews Tuesday, Trump repeated calls for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S.

In an interview [1]with Fox Business, Trump raised concerns about the visa waiver program.

“It’s time to stop that absolutely,” he said. “Frankly, look, we’re having problems with the Muslims, and we’re having problems with Muslims coming into the country …”

“We’ve talked about public comments on the campaign trail and the impact that they are or are not having,” Kirby said when asked during the briefing if Trump’s comments undermine the department’s diplomatic efforts. “I let the candidates speak for themselves about their views.”

Kirby said the attacks in Brussels showed that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) – which he noted had claimed responsibility – “is still capable of this kind of violence.”

“And we have to take that threat seriously, and we are.”

Obama administration officials have actively shied away [2] from using terms like “radical Islam” or “Islamic extremism” when discussing the terror threat, embracing instead the term “violent extremism.”

The White House last year hosted a summit on “countering violent extremism (CVE)” and the State Department recently renamed its counterterrorism bureau [3] the “bureau of counterterrorism and countering violent extremism.”

In his response to Tuesday’s attacks, Trump’s GOP rival Sen. Ted Cruz criticized what he suggested was an unwillingness in the West to identify the source of the problem.

“For years, the West has tried to deny this enemy exists out of a combination of political correctness and fear,” he said [4] in a statement. “We can no longer afford either. Our European allies are now seeing what comes of a toxic mix of migrants who have been infiltrated by terrorists and isolated, radical Muslim neighborhoods. We will do what we can to help them fight this scourge, and redouble our efforts to make sure it does not happen here.”

Cruz also called for U.S. law enforcement agencies to be empowered “to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized.”

Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) national executive director Nihad Awad described Cruz’ call for patrols of Muslim neighborhoods as “unconstitutional” and “unbefitting anyone seeking our nation’s highest office.”

“We urge Ted Cruz to retract his call for fascist-like treatment of American Muslims and to offer an apology to all Americans,” he said.

CAIR also offered condolences to the families and loved ones of those killed and injured in Brussels.

“Such heinous attacks are antithetical to the ideals of civilized society,” added CAIR, which describes itself as “America’s largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization.”

Source URL: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/state-dept-brussels-attack-isnt-about-religion

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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 10:09:29 am »
What, then, is it about?  Baseball?  The Beatles?  Improper toilet training? :whistle:

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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 10:55:50 am »
This is the state department's helpful response to terrorism.
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State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’

(CNSNews.com) – Tuesday’s terrorist attack in Brussels was not about religion but a “depraved ideology,” State Department spokesman John Kirby told reporters.

“This isn’t about a religion,” he said. “This is about a warped and brutal, depraved ideology that continues to be attractive to a small number of people in the Muslim faith – radicals and extremists.”

“And we don’t believe that it is indicative in any way of the Muslim faith or the people who practice Islam as a religion,” Kirby continued. <<


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Useful tools,useful fools. He and others like him are being  highly paid to spout that nonsense,and it doesn't worry them at all because they never go to the areas that get bombed. They ride in limos instead of trains,and they fly in government aircraft instead of commercial jets. When they vacation,they vacation at spots  owned and controlled by the monied elites that are never attacked. Their children even all go to private schools where there is no danger of a child bringing in a backpack bomb.

In other words,not their problem.
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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 09:07:22 pm »
“This isn’t about a religion,” he said. “This is about a warped and brutal, depraved ideology that continues to be attractive to a small number of people in the Muslim faith – radicals and extremists.”

Small number,   1.1 BILLION Muzzies, 1% are bad actors, gosh that is only a drop in the hat, I mean there are only 10,000 bad guys out there...yea you are right, nuttin to worry about or see here.


“And we don’t believe that it is indicative in any way of the Muslim faith or the people who practice Islam as a religion,” Kirby continued. “But it is a group that remains deadly, remains lethal. And we are going to remain focused on defeating them.

F O C U S E D?  ON WHAT, you are FRIGGIN losing the battles and the war you dummy and when you say "WE" who you talkin about you and the turd in your back pocket.  Estimates are that Obama has let in 1.5 MILLION Muzzies, YOU got a list of their names, address and fone #, how about just their last name, skip the Mohammed I already know that.

Hell you Richard Weeds are focused, you were not even able to focus and support Benghazi.

Yea I know you are the State Dept, but my question is?  State of WHAT?  Denial, my guess is you idiots think that is a river in Egypt.  How about the State of KRAP for BRAINS...
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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 09:22:06 pm »
It isn't about religion, it's about a cult. People who want to kill us if we don't convert.

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016, 09:24:56 pm »
How difficult is this to anyone with more than two brain cells?  It IS religion.  It's a religion that requires its adherents to kill everyone else.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2016, 09:34:49 pm »
How difficult is this to anyone with more than two brain cells?  It IS religion.  It's a religion that requires its adherents to kill everyone else.

They aren't stupid... this is deliberate...

This is a global problem with all Western societies participating because they are all led by globalists...


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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2016, 09:43:54 pm »
How difficult is this to anyone with more than two brain cells?  It IS religion.  It's a religion that requires its adherents to kill everyone else.

It's a cult. http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/01/five-reasons-why-islam-is-a-cult/

1. A Muslim who quits Islam has to worry about being killed by another Muslim.

2. Muslims are encouraged to commit violence in the name of Islam.

3. Islam does not allow criticism or change.

4. Muslim theology teaches hatred of non-Muslims.

5. Islam matches the “Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups” according to the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA).


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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2016, 10:36:17 pm »
Here is a quick reference source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

There very clearly is a problem. It does not appear to be lessening. It appears to be worsening.

The fact that not all muslims are terrorists doesn't make me feel better.

My father was a young Marine, serving in the Pacific when we won. He had been
seriously injured after 45 days combat on Okinawa, but was recovered ready to go back on full duty status.

We dropped one atomic bomb, but Japan did not surrender. We dropped a second and they did surrender.

Japan has not been a problem since then. But until they surrendered, they were damnable fanatics. Kamakazis killed more on ships, than were killed on land.

We should look at Islam as our war enemy, not a social experiment to see how many we can endure getting killed, before we get mad as hell.

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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2016, 11:27:55 pm »
The Germans are getting it. Translation: "We Are In War"
Well, maybe not Frau Merkel.
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Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2016, 12:56:09 am »
Here is a quick reference source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

There very clearly is a problem. It does not appear to be lessening. It appears to be worsening.

The fact that not all muslims are terrorists doesn't make me feel better.

My father was a young Marine, serving in the Pacific when we won. He had been
seriously injured after 45 days combat on Okinawa, but was recovered ready to go back on full duty status.

We dropped one atomic bomb, but Japan did not surrender. We dropped a second and they did surrender.

Japan has not been a problem since then. But until they surrendered, they were damnable fanatics. Kamakazis killed more on ships, than were killed on land.


We should look at Islam as our war enemy, not a social experiment to see how many we can endure getting killed, before we get mad as hell.

The Germans are getting it. Translation: "We Are In War"




Do I dare say that the Japs maybe the most fanatical warriors of all time. But the second nuke, the little bastards could not get to the surrender table fast enough and like you say, we ain't heard a peep from them since.


some interesting facts:


On February 20, 1974, Onoda met a Japanese man, Norio Suzuki, who was traveling around the world, looking for "Lieutenant Onoda, a panda, and the Abominable Snowman, in that order".[4] Suzuki found Onoda after four days of searching. Onoda described this moment in a 2010 interview: "This hippie boy Suzuki came to the island to listen to the feelings of a Japanese soldier. Suzuki asked me why I would not come out ..."[1] Onoda and Suzuki became friends, but Onoda still refused to surrender, saying that he was waiting for orders from a superior officer. Suzuki returned to Japan with photographs of himself and Onoda as proof of their encounter, and the Japanese government located Onoda's commanding officer, Major Yoshimi Taniguchi, who had since become a bookseller. He flew to Lubang where on March 9, 1974, he finally met with Onoda and fulfilled the promise made in 1944, "Whatever happens, we'll come back for you," by issuing him the following orders:
In accordance with the Imperial command, the Fourteenth Area Army has ceased all combat activity.
  • In accordance with military Headquarters Command No. A-2003, the Special Squadron of Staff's Headquarters is relieved of all military duties.
  • Units and individuals under the command of Special Squadron are to cease military activities and operations immediately and place themselves under the command of the nearest superior officer. When no officer can be found, they are to communicate with the American or Philippine forces and follow their directives.


— Hiroo Onoda,
Onoda 1999, pp. 13–14Onoda was thus properly relieved of duty, and he surrendered. He turned over his sword, his functioning ArisakaType 99 rifle, 500 rounds of ammunition and several hand grenades, as well as the dagger his mother had given him in 1944 to kill himself with if he was captured.[9] Only private Teruo Nakamura, arrested on 18 December 1974 in Indonesia, held out for longer.








Some Kamakazi facts you may find interesting


The number of ships sunk is a matter of debate. According to a wartime Japanese propaganda announcement, the missions sank 81 ships and damaged 195, and according to a Japanese tally, kamikaze attacks accounted for up to 80% of the U.S. losses in the final phase of the war in the Pacific. In a 2004 book, World War II, the historians Wilmott, Cross and Messenger stated that more than 70 U.S. vessels were "sunk or damaged beyond repair" by kamikazes.
According to a U.S Air Force webpage:Approximately 2,800 Kamikaze attackers sank 34 Navy ships, damaged 368 others, killed 4,900 sailors, and wounded over 4,800. Despite radar detection and cuing, airborne interception, attrition, and massive anti-aircraft barrages, 14 percent of Kamikazes survived to score a hit on a ship; nearly 8.5 percent of all ships hit by Kamikazes sank.[40]Australian journalists Denis and Peggy Warner, in a 1982 book with Japanese naval historian Sadao Seno (The Sacred Warriors: Japan’s Suicide Legions), arrived at a total of 57 ships sunk by kamikazes. However, Bill Gordon, an American Japanologist who specialises in kamikazes, lists in a 2007 article 47 ships known to have been sunk by kamikaze aircraft. Gordon says that the Warners and Seno included ten ships that did not sink. He lists:three escort carriers: USS St. Lo, USS Ommaney Bay, and USS Bismarck Sea
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    Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
    « Reply #12 on: March 24, 2016, 05:13:23 am »

    We seem to have lost the resolve to win wars decisively.
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    « Reply #13 on: March 24, 2016, 10:44:28 am »
    We seem to have lost the resolve to win wars decisively.

    There is not only any money to be made by winning,there are votes to be lost because there will be fewer union jobs after a victory.

    And that's not even considering the effect it has on the unemployment figures.

    War is good for business and politicians that want to keep their positions.
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    « Reply #14 on: March 24, 2016, 03:14:46 pm »
    We seem to have lost the resolve to win wars decisively.

    What is destroying our military is a focus and priority upon gay, lesbian and transgenders being integrated into the force.  In addition as our men become more and more PC we recruit a different person for our military, someone who is there for something besides God and Country.  Last year 44,000 babies were born to soldiers, you can no longer use ‘curse’ words in training and I just found this out, the Drill Sgt that trained me in Jan 1967 is long gone and in todays military he would be given the boot.


    We can’t fight because we no longer have war fighters in our ranks.  Today a foxhole is a place for sex between men and men, and men and women.  In my career from ’67-’94 women were a near constant problem, not always themselves but the love triangles were always bubbling to the surface.  And of course our share of women who would literally screw anything with pants.  When I was in Korea, we had a female Helicopter pilot that after she worked her way thru the officers at the Officers club and was given a talking to, donned her civvy clothes and headed to the EM club.  There she found lots of friendly faces and plenty of VD to spread around and did she spread it.  Her tour was cut short and she was shipped back to the US after leaving a trail of nothing but problems.


    Women, gays, lesbians, trannys, 44,000 babies a year and growing…we no longer have a military we have a govt child care and minority rights center.  At this point more training funds and equipment will not solve our problem...
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    Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
    « Reply #15 on: March 24, 2016, 03:29:19 pm »
    What is destroying our military is a focus and priority upon gay, lesbian and transgenders being integrated into the force.  In addition as our men become more and more PC we recruit a different person for our military, someone who is there for something besides God and Country.  Last year 44,000 babies were born to soldiers, you can no longer use ‘curse’ words in training and I just found this out, the Drill Sgt that trained me in Jan 1967 is long gone and in todays military he would be given the boot.


    We can’t fight because we no longer have war fighters in our ranks.  Today a foxhole is a place for sex between men and men, and men and women.  In my career from ’67-’94 women were a near constant problem, not always themselves but the love triangles were always bubbling to the surface.  And of course our share of women who would literally screw anything with pants.  When I was in Korea, we had a female Helicopter pilot that after she worked her way thru the officers at the Officers club and was given a talking to, donned her civvy clothes and headed to the EM club.  There she found lots of friendly faces and plenty of VD to spread around and did she spread it.  Her tour was cut short and she was shipped back to the US after leaving a trail of nothing but problems.


    Women, gays, lesbians, trannys, 44,000 babies a year and growing…we no longer have a military we have a govt child care and minority rights center.  At this point more training funds and equipment will not solve our problem...

    Great post. 

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    « Reply #16 on: March 24, 2016, 03:30:23 pm »
    This is the state department's helpful response to terrorism.

    This is why Trump has a following. We are constantly fed this excrement and told it's chocolate pudding.

    At least Trump will acknowledge what is going on.

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    Re: State Department: ‘This Isn’t About a Religion’
    « Reply #17 on: March 24, 2016, 04:05:40 pm »
    My niece served ten years in the Air Force, including Germany, Guam, Afghanistan, Turkey. Probably would have gone for 20 or more years, but she was raped and the military institution covered up, etc.

    With regrets, a few years later, she decided to leave the service. She remains a patriotic young lady. She was a military journalism specialist, the cute blonde lady on the television news and weather reports.

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