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The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« on: March 18, 2016, 01:03:57 pm »
The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump

by DAVID HARSANYI   March 18, 2016 12:00 AM @DAVIDHARSANYI

Donald Trump booster and radio talk-show host Laura Ingraham recently urged the GOP’s remaining candidates to avoid a “bloodbath” at the Republican National Convention. “I don’t see what the point of all this is,” she explained.

Well, that is a great point, actually: taking the nomination away from Trump.

Senator Ted Cruz could still conceivably win. But there’s no soft landing in this scenario, no rapprochement. No team-building exercise is going to fix the 2016 iteration of the Republican party. There is only going to be a crackup, no matter who captures the nomination. If that’s true, and if it means one side has to prevail, why not save your party from a hostile takeover that could potentially cost it both the Senate and the House?

The key would be denying Trump the 1,237 delegates necessary to secure the nomination. Cruz (maybe with Governor John Kasich) could still pull together the requisite number of delegates to block Trump from winning before the convention.

Voters don’t decide the nominations; delegates do — preferably in smoke-filled rooms where rational decisions about the future of a party can be hashed out. The Republican party is not a direct democracy. It crafts its own rules, and it can change them. Here are questions that Republican delegates should be asking themselves: Is it worth upsetting a bunch of angry, marginally conservative voters who often have a minor fidelity to the doctrines of your party? Or are you prepared to put your political infrastructure and full weight behind a cartoonish George Wallace–like character who’ll probably inflict more damage than you could ever hope to repair?

RNC chairman Reince Priebus says that he expects every GOP presidential candidate to uphold a pledge to support the eventual nominee. Considering what we heard in Senator Marco Rubio’s concession speech, I find this difficult to believe. At best, Priebus is going to have a bunch of politicians tiptoeing around Trump in tacit nonsupport. And if enough big-name Republicans end up supporting Trump, it only accentuates the need for a new party.

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A third party would also help sink Trump and elect Hillary Clinton. Electing a weakened and corrupt Democrat that Republicans would unite against in Congress is a far better reality than allowing a charlatan to hollow out a party from within.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432947/donald-trump-defeat-him-and-save-gop

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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2016, 01:10:05 pm »
Third party is looking better by the day.
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2016, 01:11:07 pm »
GOPE, if you do this you will do massive damage to your candidates not just nationally but in state and local elections as well. No matter how passionately you hate Trump, do not fool yourselves. The GOPE will not be able to disenfranchise millions of GOP voters and escaped unscathed. You will lose the Congress and the Presidency. state houses and governorships.

IF Trump is such the disaster as the GOPE predict, then the GOPE should let him win simply to teach the GOP voters a lesson for the future. Show them the GOPE knows better then the voters who should be the candidate.

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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 01:16:51 pm »

Say hello to the GOPe, the real enemies of democracy and representative government:

"A third party would also help sink Trump and elect Hillary Clinton. Electing a weakened and corrupt Democrat that Republicans would unite against in Congress is a far better reality than allowing a charlatan to hollow out a party from within."

Unfortunately, this is the National Review crowd that Ted Cruz has fallen in with when he took up with Neil Bush, accepted $37 million from just four donors,* and joined with establishment darling, Lindsey Graham.

*$37 million from just for donors:
The Wilks family of Cisco, Texas, New York hedge fund tycoon Bob Mercer, Texas energy investor Toby Neugebauer and Illinois manufacturing moguls Dick and Liz Uihlein.

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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 01:21:44 pm »
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Once Trump is gone (and he’ll leave with no coherent movement), these voters will either have to come back and look for alternative candidates with compelling messages, or leave the party altogether.

A third-party candidate might insulate down-ballot candidates from Trumpism.  You do remember Todd Akin, I’m sure? Imagine a candidate being ceaselessly asked to comment on the various impulsive and unsavory positions that the presidential nominee has taken. For example, “Do you agree with the GOP nominee that children of terrorists should be executed?”

Trump will wreck the Republican party in all kinds of unforeseen ways.
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2016, 01:24:44 pm »
Say hello to the GOPe, the real enemies of democracy and representative government:

"A third party would also help sink Trump and elect Hillary Clinton. Electing a weakened and corrupt Democrat that Republicans would unite against in Congress is a far better reality than allowing a charlatan to hollow out a party from within."

Unfortunately, this is the National Review crowd that Ted Cruz has fallen in with when he took up with Neil Bush, accepted $37 million from just four donors,* and joined with establishment darling, Lindsey Graham.

*$37 million from just for donors:
The Wilks family of Cisco, Texas, New York hedge fund tycoon Bob Mercer, Texas energy investor Toby Neugebauer and Illinois manufacturing moguls Dick and Liz Uihlein.

Is Trump going to self-fund his campaign, or will he suck on the RNC teat for cash?

He'll take "establishment" money and all the free media he can, of course.  If he's the nominee, you'll never hear another word about "I'm not beholden to anybody."

Phony.
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2016, 01:27:22 pm »
Trump will wreck the Republican party in all kinds of unforeseen ways.

And that's a problem because....? :whistle:
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2016, 01:29:43 pm »
And that's a problem because....? :whistle:

Trump supporters don't care if Republicans lose the Senate, do they?  And they will, if Trump is the nominee.  They almost certainly will.

And they surely don't care if Republicans lose House seats, state legislature seats and governorships, which they will surely do if Trump is the nominee.

From high point to low point, in one election.
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2016, 01:33:49 pm »


Hey look! It's The Dubliner, on F Street by Union Station (and hard by Fox News DC) .....a bunch of Irish guys celebrating March 17! A.k.a., the typical DC sighting of the ever incestuous relationship between pols and "objective" news media. Or said another way, members of the ruling class getting together -- in this case, discussing the next several millions in free advertising to be delivered to .....TRUMP. The guy on the left will be Trump's Chief of Staff and I do not doubt is already on the payroll through one of Trump's hidden P&Ls. Ergo, his pronouncement that even though another 24 states need to vote still with half the delegates to be decided, any talk of a multiple ballot convention or refusals to award the nomination to the plurality winner would lead to "chaos" in the party. One inimitable skill all DC insiders have is talking their own book -- no matter how false the narrative. The most highly skilled of all in this area have a special title ascribed to them: Blowhard.
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2016, 01:34:49 pm »
Trump supporters don't care if Republicans lose the Senate, do they?  And they will, if Trump is the nominee.  They almost certainly will.

And they surely don't care if Republicans lose House seats, state legislature seats and governorships, which they will surely do if Trump is the nominee.

From high point to low point, in one election.

More bullsh*t....so early in the morning.

The coattails this election are going to mirror Jimmy Carter's loss in 1980.

People who get themselves to the pols will vote straight Republican all the way down the ballot.

They're not pompous traitors to the party who at the first sign of trouble, want to take the ball and run home.

....where they play with themselves. :laugh:
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"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2016, 01:43:28 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2016, 09:34:42 pm »
Why? They wouldn't be any better. In fact,the fact that they suck so badly is why some voters are willing to vote for scum like Trump.
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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2016, 11:28:45 pm »


Be sure to ping me when you post a few pictures of Trump in nursery school.   :whistle:

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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2016, 11:33:57 pm »
More bullsh*t....so early in the morning.

The coattails this election are going to mirror Jimmy Carter's loss in 1980.

People who get themselves to the pols will vote straight Republican all the way down the ballot.

They're not pompous traitors to the party who at the first sign of trouble, want to take the ball and run home.

....where they play with themselves. :laugh:

Have you seen the polls?  Trump lives and dies by them, so you really ought to pay attention to the polls.

Hillary has won 43 of the last 49 polls taken involving her and Trump.  That's 88%.

Trump will have no coattails because the majority of the 24 GOP Senators up for reelection won't endorse him and, in fact, will campaign against him.

Trump will lose and lose badly.

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Re: The GOP Should Steal the Nomination from Trump
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2016, 11:59:33 pm »


Hey look! It's The Dubliner, on F Street by Union Station (and hard by Fox News DC) .....a bunch of Irish guys celebrating March 17! A.k.a., the typical DC sighting of the ever incestuous relationship between pols and "objective" news media. Or said another way, members of the ruling class getting together -- in this case, discussing the next several millions in free advertising to be delivered to .....TRUMP. The guy on the left will be Trump's Chief of Staff and I do not doubt is already on the payroll through one of Trump's hidden P&Ls. Ergo, his pronouncement that even though another 24 states need to vote still with half the delegates to be decided, any talk of a multiple ballot convention or refusals to award the nomination to the plurality winner would lead to "chaos" in the party. One inimitable skill all DC insiders have is talking their own book -- no matter how false the narrative. The most highly skilled of all in this area have a special title ascribed to them: Blowhard.

I see here that yet another conservative is thrown under the bus because of his objective commentary about  Donald Trump.

Yes, just one more conservative sacrificed on the altar of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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