Author Topic: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination  (Read 3824 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline NavyCanDo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,507
  • Gender: Male
Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« on: March 16, 2016, 12:32:28 pm »

Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, fresh off a string of election victories, said on Wednesday he was confident he would get enough delegates to win his party’s nomination and warned of unrest if it were denied to him.
Trump, in an interview with CNN, said if he got a large number of delegates yet was denied the nomination: “I don’t think you can say that we don’t get it automatically. I think you’d have riots. I think you’d have riots. I’m representing many, many millions of people.”

http://nypost.com/2016/03/16/trump-there-will-be-riots-if-im-denied-nomination/
A nation that turns away from prayer will ultimately find itself in desperate need of it. :Jonathan Cahn

Offline NavyCanDo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,507
  • Gender: Male
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 12:37:11 pm »
I listen to the CNN interview this morning and in case there is any question,  they were discussing a contested convention if he doesn't reach the required number but yet is still in the lead.   He also said, about the riots, "I will not lead them, but they will happen".     Reminds me of Pontius Pilate, who had the power to stop everything, washed his hands.
A nation that turns away from prayer will ultimately find itself in desperate need of it. :Jonathan Cahn

Offline Jazzhead

  • Blue lives matter
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,593
  • Gender: Male
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 12:41:09 pm »
Trump's got the mentality of a mobster,  a racialist whore just like Al Sharpton.     
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 12:42:58 pm by Jazzhead »
It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

Offline libertybele

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 57,762
  • Gender: Female
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 12:53:06 pm »
I'm not a Trump supporter, if he wins it outright, the GOPe is still talking about finding ways to eliminate him.  That would be dead wrong. He is correct.  He represents millions of people as does Cruz. Those sitting in Washington are our elected officials.  They work for us. If he's only lacking a few delegates, then it should rightfully go to him.  If he's tied with Cruz or they're within a few delegates of each other and neither one of them has the majority, then a convention should decide between the TWO of them ... not some other candidate whom the people didn't select.  Not Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Romeny, Ryan, Santorum, Huckabee, etc., etc.  This race is now between Cruz and Trump. As Cruz stated, the only way to beat Trump is at the ballot box. Right now Trump is leading Cruz by 225 delegates, however, one thing I have always known about Cruz ... never underestimate him.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 12:56:48 pm by libertybele »
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Online mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 384,262
  • Let's Go Brandon!
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2016, 01:39:32 pm »
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-expect-riots-if-i-dont-win-gop-nomination/article/2585955


Trump: Expect 'riots' if I don't win GOP nomination
By Al Weaver (@alweaver22) • 3/16/16 8:35 AM

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump warned Wednesday that his supporters might riot if the GOP tried to steal the nomination away from him at the Republican National Convention in July.

Trump, who won at least three states on Tuesday, told CNN that if he falls just short of the delegates he needs to clinch the nomination, he should be seen as the winner anyway, and that any other decision could lead to violence.

"I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're, you know, 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think you would have riots," Trump said. "I think you would have riots."

Trump pointed out that he has brought out "millions" of voters to the polls, many of whom haven't voted in the past, including Democrats and independents. He added that most of his supporters have "never believed in the system," and warned again that "bad things would happen" if he lost the nod at the convention.

"The really big story is how many people are voting in these primaries. The numbers are astronomical," Trump said. "Now, if you disenfranchise those people and you say, 'well I'm sorry, but you're 100 votes short,' even though the next one is 500 votes short, I think you would see problems like you've never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do. I believe that. I wouldn't lead it, but I think bad things would happen."

Trump said he hopes there's a "healing process" between him and some of his vocal opponents within the party that will avoid the need for a contested convention.

"I think there's a natural healing process. Once the battle is over, once the war is over, I think there really is a natural healing process and I've gotten along with people all my life," Trump said. "This is actually a little bit unusual. I've gotten along very well with people, and I think it will happen again, and I believe it will. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'll go along the same path, which has obviously been an effective path."
Top Story
Proud Supporter of Tunnel to Towers
Support the USO
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34

Offline ArneFufkin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,579
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2016, 02:01:40 pm »
I would urge everyone around this place who has even a modicum of sentience left to revisit Saul Alinsky's 12 "Rules for Radicals" - and see if it reminds you of any particular GOP-primary campaign this cycle (We've been seeing a lot of Rule 10 in particular in play this past week/weekend.  Glenn Becks comments are in parentheses but he wrote this long before Trump hit the scene):

 * RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.  (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)

* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

* RULE 12: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals

Hmmm,  who could this describe?   Who could this describe?   :pondering:  It seems a certain NYC liberal crony patron learned his Alinsky lessons well.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 02:14:30 pm by ArneFufkin »

Online mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 79,223
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2016, 02:15:05 pm »
Quote
I think you’d have riots. I think you’d have riots. I’m representing many, many millions of people.
He doesn't seem to have a very high opinion of his supporters if he believes they'd behave lawlessly and, basically, like the Soros/BLM crowd.
Support Israel's emergency medical service. afmda.org

Online Free Vulcan

  • Technical
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,813
  • Gender: Male
  • Ah, the air is so much fresher here...
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2016, 02:18:02 pm »
If Trump wants support, these are the kind of attempted dick dominance statements he needs to start avoiding. This won't compel people to support him.

He is moving into the realm of the public official, not the business world. You are not the boss. If you can't unify support, you will get nothing done.
The Republic is lost.

Offline ArneFufkin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,579
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2016, 02:18:36 pm »
He doesn't seem to have a very high opinion of his supporters if he believes they'd behave lawlessly and, basically, like the Soros/BLM crowd.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters."

No, that doesn't indicate Trump has much respect for the discernment or rectitude of his followers.   And, he's correct in that conclusion.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 02:20:56 pm by ArneFufkin »

Offline Longiron

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,343
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2016, 02:20:42 pm »
If Trump wants support, these are the kind of attempted dick dominance statements he needs to start avoiding. This won't compel people to support him.

He is moving into the realm of the public official, not the business world. You are not the boss. If you can't unify support, you will get nothing done.

don't worry and be happy! At 80 % he will implode anyway :silly:

Offline ArneFufkin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,579
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2016, 02:22:51 pm »
don't worry and be happy! At 80 % he will implode anyway :silly:

He can't get a >50% majority in the GOP primary.  How is he going to get 80% in November when regular Ameicans start voting?

You live in a world of abject delusion.

Online Free Vulcan

  • Technical
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,813
  • Gender: Male
  • Ah, the air is so much fresher here...
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2016, 02:24:41 pm »
don't worry and be happy! At 80 % he will implode anyway :silly:

You realize that he's not on track to win the nomination? The dick dominance frat boy circle keeps running around doing victory laps, yet this contest is far from over. If this were Cruz, I'd be worried.
The Republic is lost.

Offline truth_seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,386
  • Gender: Male
  • Common Sense Results Oriented Conservative Veteran
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2016, 02:56:08 pm »
I'm not a Trump supporter, if he wins it outright, the GOPe is still talking about finding ways to eliminate him.  That would be dead wrong. He is correct.  He represents millions of people as does Cruz. Those sitting in Washington are our elected officials.  They work for us. If he's only lacking a few delegates, then it should rightfully go to him.  If he's tied with Cruz or they're within a few delegates of each other and neither one of them has the majority, then a convention should decide between the TWO of them ... not some other candidate whom the people didn't select.  Not Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Romeny, Ryan, Santorum, Huckabee, etc., etc.  This race is now between Cruz and Trump. As Cruz stated, the only way to beat Trump is at the ballot box. Right now Trump is leading Cruz by 225 delegates, however, one thing I have always known about Cruz ... never underestimate him.
Agreed. Last week Trump faced and overcome the Romney speech telling voters to vote strategically to block him, the Chicago riots, money from various sources, the Operation Sea Island efforts, etc.

And in spite of that, he won 4 of 5 contests. He probably lost Ohio only due to strategic voting, e.g. trading Rubio and Kasich votes.

There is something called "We the People" and it sound a lot like there are forces intent on depriving the People of their Will. It sounds like the effort sponsored in part by the Washington DC cartel that Cruz speaks of. It sounds like the effort is sponsored as well by establishment Republicans.

It appears this board is infested with people like 1980 John Anderson supporters.  People that believed the bad stuff about Reagan. They were wrong then.

I think many have outright lied that they were Reagan Republicans. They are really John Anderson moderates.
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

Online mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 79,223
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2016, 03:04:19 pm »
I'm not a Trump supporter, if he wins it outright, the GOPe is still talking about finding ways to eliminate him.  That would be dead wrong.
I agree. Trump is not my first choice, but more GOP infighting at the convention - not to mention the spectre of some loser like Romney being foisted on us - will accomplish nothing except ensuring Obama Part Deux in the White House.
Support Israel's emergency medical service. afmda.org

Offline sinkspur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,567
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2016, 03:17:02 pm »

Jordan Gehrke
‏@jmgehrke Jordan Gehrke Retweeted Doug Stafford

I’d have someone follow Trump around in a chicken suit but the poor guy in the suit would get murdered at a rally.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

Bill Cipher

  • Guest
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2016, 03:28:00 pm »
So, what part of fomenting violence do we not understand?

Offline alicewonders

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,021
  • Gender: Female
  • Live life-it's too short to butt heads w buttheads
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2016, 03:36:16 pm »
Jordan Gehrke
‏@jmgehrke Jordan Gehrke Retweeted Doug Stafford

I’d have someone follow Trump around in a chicken suit but the poor guy in the suit would get murdered at a rally.

Why don't you volunteer for the job Sink?   :dx1:
Don't tread on me.   8888madkitty

We told you Trump would win - bigly!

Offline aligncare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,916
  • Gender: Male
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2016, 03:44:12 pm »

If Donald Trump comes in to the convention with 1100 delegates, and the next guy behind him is at five or six or 700, and the GOP tries some sort of rules change maneuvering, darn straight there's going to be some trouble. And Donald Trump will have had nothing whatsoever to do with instigating the trouble. It's fully in the hands of the GOP.

Offline sinkspur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,567
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2016, 03:46:49 pm »
Dan McLaughlin ‏@baseballcrank  17m17 minutes ago
Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Laura Ingraham

Suddenly all the Trump flacks sound exactly like the party establishment, begging for blind loyalty.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

Offline truth_seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,386
  • Gender: Male
  • Common Sense Results Oriented Conservative Veteran
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2016, 03:48:28 pm »
None other than Gingrich stated yesterday when most of the results were in, that efforts to block Trump at the convention were insane.

He used the word insane.
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

Offline GAJohnnie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,866
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2016, 04:04:20 pm »


Trump made an perfectly accurate statement. Attempting to disenfranchise millions of voters is not going to be received well by those voters.

Real pathetic that some people are so blinded by hate they cannot be bothered to read the actual statements by Trump and instead feverishly race to the keyboard to lie about him.


Offline libertybele

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 57,762
  • Gender: Female
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2016, 04:07:49 pm »
If Donald Trump comes in to the convention with 1100 delegates, and the next guy behind him is at five or six or 700, and the GOP tries some sort of rules change maneuvering, darn straight there's going to be some trouble. And Donald Trump will have had nothing whatsoever to do with instigating the trouble. It's fully in the hands of the GOP.

Exactly.  At 646 (?) delegates, Trump already has over 1/2 of the delegates already needed to win. For the GOPe to try to change rules so that he doesn't win is pure bull crap.   

However, the number of delegates needed is 1237.  I look for the RNC to stick to those rules.  Meaning that Kasich, Cruz and Trump would be up for nomination at the convention ... and you no damn well, they aren't going to pick Cruz or Trump.

If we are looking at current delegates - Cruz is 249 delegates away from Trump and Kasich is 504 delegates away from Trump and they would consider giving it to Kasich.  Really?  Not a Trump supporter, but I can see how they just might ruffle a few million feathers including mine!
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 04:21:37 pm by libertybele »
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Offline sinkspur

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,567
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2016, 04:08:04 pm »
None other than Gingrich stated yesterday when most of the results were in, that efforts to block Trump at the convention were insane.

He used the word insane.

Was Reagan insane to attempt to block a sitting President in 1976?

Gingrich loves all this "blow it up" stuff because he's living vicariously through Trump.  Newt's desperate for a second act.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

Bill Cipher

  • Guest
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2016, 04:09:09 pm »

Trump made an perfectly accurate statement. Attempting to disenfranchise millions of voters is not going to be received well by those voters.

Real pathetic that some people are so blinded by hate they cannot be bothered to read the actual statements by Trump and instead feverishly race to the keyboard to lie about him.



So instead of trying to keep the peace and counsel calm he throws gas on the fire?  Yeah, this is the sort of demagogue we need as president. 

Bill Cipher

  • Guest
Re: Trump: There will be riots if I’m denied nomination
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2016, 04:11:02 pm »
If Donald Trump comes in to the convention with 1100 delegates, and the next guy behind him is at five or six or 700, and the GOP tries some sort of rules change maneuvering, darn straight there's going to be some trouble. And Donald Trump will have had nothing whatsoever to do with instigating the trouble. It's fully in the hands of the GOP.

You mean the guy who only has a plurality should just be given the nomination without seeing if the others can persuade enough delegates to support them? And this because of threats of violence?  Talk about changing the rules and resorting to liberal tactics.