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Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« on: March 13, 2016, 04:58:07 pm »
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Newsletter Essential Politics: The most unpopular nominee ever?

David Lauter
March 13, 2016

"I beat Hillary in many of the polls that have been taken. And each week, I get better and better."

Some of Donald Trump's statements can be hard to evaluate. That one's easy. Since the start of February, 19 polls have been taken by a wide range of survey organizations testing a potential matchup between Trump and Hillary Clinton; she led in 18 of them. Her margin over Trump has steadily widened and, on average, now stands at about 10 points.

Good afternoon, I'm David Lauter, Washington Bureau chief. Welcome to the Friday edition of our Essential Politics newsletter, in which we look at the events of the week in the presidential campaign and highlight some particularly insightful stories.

As he has mowed down one Republican challenger after another, Trump has taken on the image of an indestructible candidate who can brush aside any attack without suffering damage.

Not so.

Yes, the attacks on Trump have done little, if anything, to shake the support of his ardent backers, who consistently yield 35% to 45% of the votes in the Republican primaries. But as I noted in an article earlier this week, the impact on the wider electorate has been very different.

Only about 25% of Americans now have a positive view of Trump, and the Democratic campaign against him hasn't really started yet. Trump has proved to be a skilled politician, but he would start a general-election campaign in a deep hole. If he becomes the GOP candidate, he may well be the most unpopular major-party nominee ever.

First, of course, Trump needs to nail down the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the nomination when the Republicans hold their convention in July in Cleveland.

Tuesday's primaries will go a long way toward deciding if that happens or if the Republicans land in Cleveland with their nomination still up for grabs. As Mark Z. Barabak explained, the key race to watch is Ohio, where Gov. John Kasich continues to run close to Trump in polls.

By contrast, Florida's Sen. Marco Rubio has run far behind Trump in polls of his state, which also votes Tuesday. Rubio has come under pressure to drop out, but as Lisa Mascaro reported, he has vowed to press on at least until the Florida result.

Mascaro also took an insightful look into Rubio's suburban strategy and why it has fallen so badly short.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has focused on the contests in North Carolina, Missouri and Illinois, which award delegates proportionately. Ohio and Florida have outsized impact because they are the night's two winner-take-all contests on the GOP side.
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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 04:59:58 pm »
Trump cannot beat Hillary.  Not all of Cruz's and Rubio's supporters will fall in behind Trump.  He might pick up enough to get over 50%, but that base of support in the GOP will kill his chances.
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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 05:05:20 pm »
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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 05:10:08 pm »


The poll by Rasmussen Reports and the one by USA Today/Suffolk are interesting because they are both polls of 1,000 likely voters (as opposed to registered voters), and suggest a downward trend in Trump's numbers, even if one grants that Trump was ahead of Clinton among likely voters at the middle of February.

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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 05:12:08 pm »
Trump cannot beat Hillary.  Not all of Cruz's and Rubio's supporters will fall in behind Trump.  He might pick up enough to get over 50%, but that base of support in the GOP will kill his chances.
You are correct. When more than half of your own party's faithful not only disagree with their prospective nominee, but actively despise that nominee, you have no chance whatsoever in a national election. The only reason for this outcome is that the Republican Party has been subjected to a hostile takeover by a small, determined band of ideologically neutral but personally loyal individuals whose support for their leader is thus based not on any theory of economics or politics or philosophy, but simply upon a classic cult of personality.
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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 05:13:03 pm »
Market for political futures:  https://www.predictit.org/Browse/Group/67/National

futures prices currently indicate that Trump will be the GOP nominee, and that Trump will suffer a serious defeat at the hands of Clinton.

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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 05:17:21 pm »
The Iowa Electronic Markets also have Trump getting the GOP nomination:  https://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_RCONV16.cfm



and the Democrat nominee winning the general election:  https://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres16_WTA.cfm


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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 05:40:03 pm »
Hillary will win 47 maybe 48 States against Trump.   
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Re: Trump: The most unpopular nominee ever?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 05:43:26 pm »
You are correct. When more than half of your own party's faithful not only disagree with their prospective nominee, but actively despise that nominee, you have no chance whatsoever in a national election. The only reason for this outcome is that the Republican Party has been subjected to a hostile takeover by a small, determined band of ideologically neutral but personally loyal individuals whose support for their leader is thus based not on any theory of economics or politics or philosophy, but simply upon a classic cult of personality.

You've expressed the Trump phenomenon perfectly.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.