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Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates

Posted By Derek Hunter On 11:45 AM 03/09/2016 In | No Comments

It was a stunning loss by a razor-thin margin, but it wasn’t really a loss at all. Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton was expected to win the Michigan primary, but came up 1.5 percent short, losing to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders Tuesday night 49.8 percent to 48.3 percent.

That victory gave Sanders a 65 to 58 advantage in pledged delegates from Election Day. But that’s not the whole story.

The Democratic Party has “superdelegates” in each state, party elites and elected officials whose votes count the same as pledged delegates, but are unbound by primary results. These superdelegates are free to vote for whomever they wish, free to ignore the will of voters in their state.

Michigan has 17 such superdelegates, and of those who have publicly stated their intentions, Hillary Clinton has the support of 10 of them. The remaining 7 have not yet made their decision.

This means that even after losing the popular vote, Clinton currently has 68 delegates from Michigan to 65 for Sanders.

Michigan superdelegates include both of the state’s senators and every Democrat elected to the House of Representatives. The uncommitted superdelegates are members of the Democratic National Committee from Michigan, who generally, but not always, remain neutral before a primary vote.

The current Democratic Party delegate count stands at 1221 for Clinton and 571 for Sanders. Much of Clinton’s lead, 458 of it, comes from superdelegates.

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Posted By Derek Hunter On 11:45 AM 03/09/2016 In | No Comments

It was a stunning loss by a razor-thin margin, but it wasn’t really a loss at all. Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton was expected to win the Michigan primary, but came up 1.5 percent short, losing to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders Tuesday night 49.8 percent to 48.3 percent.

That victory gave Sanders a 65 to 58 advantage in pledged delegates from Election Day. But that’s not the whole story.

The Democratic Party has “superdelegates” in each state, party elites and elected officials whose votes count the same as pledged delegates, but are unbound by primary results. These superdelegates are free to vote for whomever they wish, free to ignore the will of voters in their state.

Michigan has 17 such superdelegates, and of those who have publicly stated their intentions, Hillary Clinton has the support of 10 of them. The remaining 7 have not yet made their decision.

This means that even after losing the popular vote, Clinton currently has 68 delegates from Michigan to 65 for Sanders.

Michigan superdelegates include both of the state’s senators and every Democrat elected to the House of Representatives. The uncommitted superdelegates are members of the Democratic National Committee from Michigan, who generally, but not always, remain neutral before a primary vote.

The current Democratic Party delegate count stands at 1221 for Clinton and 571 for Sanders. Much of Clinton’s lead, 458 of it, comes from superdelegates.

Article printed from The Daily Caller: http://dailycaller.com

URL to article: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/09/clinton-loses-vote-in-michigan-leaves-with-more-delegates/

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This is an angle of Hillary's candidacy that is never looked at. Imagine if this were a Republican running on an outsider platform, and every time that candidate won a state, they lost in delegates to the perceived insider candidate with high unfavorables.

How would you as a Republican feel then about supporting them in the general, if your candidate of choice was the outsider candidate? Especially if the GOP were the party of the youth, and counted on their vote to win the general as the Dems do? A constituency which makes up a large component of the outsider Sander's support and are known to be fickle voters.

The longer this goes on, especially if it goes to convention, the more it erodes her base. All I can say is Go Sanders!
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Re: Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 05:27:15 pm »
This is how elections are held in Iran and Cuba.

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Re: Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 06:31:51 pm »
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Re: Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 03:23:45 am »
Ya gotta be in some kind of mob to come out ahead in cases like dis!

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Re: Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2016, 03:51:56 am »
The Democrat super delegate system grew out of "reforms" conceived at their 1968 National Convention, the one which nominated Humphrey to run against Nixon. In 1972, in reaction to '68, McGovern was nominated and the hard left took over the party machinery. This was the convention which threw out Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and a number of other long time party stalwarts in favor of a group led by Jesse Jackson and far left outfits like NOW, homosexual activists, and proaborts.

To make certain these groups continued in control of the Party the super delegate system was adopted so Party affairs would be solely in the hands of the elitists and party regulars, and then called the coup "reform." It was anything but. All it did was shift power from the old line Democrats like Daley to the new, much more to the Left Democrats like Jackson and McGovern.

An amusing footnote to this development is that in 2008 the super delegates were, as now, pledged to Hillary, but many violated their commitment so they could support a new, more attractive candidate named Barack Obama.
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Re: Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 03:54:08 am »
The Democrat super delegate system grew out of "reforms" conceived at their 1968 National Convention, the one which nominated Humphrey to run against Nixon. In 1972, in reaction to '68, McGovern was nominated and the hard left took over the party machinery. This was the convention which threw out Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and a number of other long time party stalwarts in favor of a group led by Jesse Jackson and far left outfits like NOW, homosexual activists, and proaborts.

To make certain these groups continued in control of the Party the super delegate system was adopted so Party affairs would be solely in the hands of the elitists and party regulars, and then called the coup "reform." It was anything but. All it did was shift power from the old line Democrats like Daley to the new, much more to the Left Democrats like Jackson and McGovern.

An amusing footnote to this development is that in 2008 the super delegates were, as now, pledged to Hillary, but many violated their commitment so they could support a new, more attractive candidate named Barack Obama.

Interesting.  Thanks.  The super delegates sound just like the line from Animal Farm:  all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.  That is how you maintain dictatorial control while maintaining the fiction of democracy.