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Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« on: March 03, 2016, 02:35:58 pm »
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-reveals-details-his-health-care-plan-n530701


Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan

by Ali Vitali

Donald Trump released his health care plan Wednesday evening, finally detailing the way in which he would fulfill his campaign trail promise to repeal and replace Obamacare.

In a seven-point plan posted to his website and publicized by a tweet, Trump says he will do away with the individual health insurance mandate, as well as allow competition over states lines for health care plans, and block grant Medicaid to the states, allowing them to follow through on his prescription to "eliminate fraud, waste and abuse to preserve our precious resources."

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 02:47:52 pm »
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The third bullet point goes on to say that "we must make sure no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance" and that "we must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it."

How is this any different from what we have now?

Medicaid covers people who cannot afford health insurance, and it's already a state program.  It appears that Trump wants to expand Medicaid in every state (states get to choose now and many states like Texas and Florida refuse to because of costs down the line).  The block grant approach means that states would figure out how to cover people.

Without the individual mandate, how does Trump propose to cover pre-existing conditions?  No mandate means that individuals could simply wait until they get sick and purchase insurance while laying on their backs in a hospital bed and insurance companies would have to cover.

There will be few insurance companies willing to do that (none that I can think of), so the health insurance business would shrink dramatically.

Maybe this is what Trump wants, as he's always favored a single payer option anyway.
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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 02:49:22 pm »
This week's plan. What will he propose next week?

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 02:51:23 pm »
The one good point there is about letting insurance companies compete across state lines.  McCarran Ferguson has got to be repealed.  However Donnie can't do it by himself because there is no room for executive amendment of that law. 

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 02:52:30 pm »
This week's plan. What will he propose next week?

Donniecare, which will look suspiciously like the old Hillarycare. 

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2016, 02:54:13 pm »
LOL, I have to confirm it when I get back on a regular computer, but someone just posted on Facebook that much of this is just copy and pasted from another candidate's page- word for word. In other words, literally copied. It could be someone on facebook mouthing off so I'll check later.

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2016, 02:57:03 pm »
The one good point there is about letting insurance companies compete across state lines.  McCarran Ferguson has got to be repealed.  However Donnie can't do it by himself because there is no room for executive amendment of that law.

States have always controlled health insurance.  Reverse federalism is not conservative, plus there's little evidence that federal regulation of health insurance companies would save any money.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2016, 03:23:17 pm »
He is trying to cover himself in case Rubio makes fun of the lines around the states jab again, which work very good last debate. But will Trump know the details of this plan able to recite details of it tonight? Doubtful. He will refer to his web site.
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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2016, 03:28:16 pm »
Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan  (Seven Points) 

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1.  Completely repeal Obamacare.  Eliminate the individual mandate--no person should be required to buy health insurance.

2.  Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines.

3.  Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium on their tax returns.

4.  Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs)--tax free and allowed to accumulate.

5.  Require price transparency from health care providers to allow people to shop for the best price.

6.  Block-grant Medicaid to the states with incentives to seek out and eliminate fraud, waste and abuse of precious resources.

7.  Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers.  Congress will need the courage to step away from special interest groups.

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2016, 03:30:07 pm »
He is trying to cover himself in case Rubio makes fun of the lines around the states jab again, which work very good last debate. But will Trump know the details of this plan able to recite details of it tonight? Doubtful. He will refer to his web site.

Exactly.  That's why he ran this out today.  He threw away the mandate, but there's no way to cover pre-existing conditions if only sick people buy insurance.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2016, 03:32:56 pm »
That's why he ran this out today.  He threw away the mandate, but there's no way to cover pre-existing conditions if only sick people buy insurance.

What do you think of Trump's proposed seven point plan?   

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2016, 03:33:40 pm »
Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan  (Seven Points)

Sounds like a plan that could make practice fun again for me. It's been dreadful under Obamacare. I thought of quitting many times, but I'm still too young to give up. Go Trump!

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2016, 03:45:29 pm »
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Require price transparency from health care providers to allow people to shop for the best price.

This is already available in the Obamacare exchanges.  You can go out and do this right now.

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Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs)--tax free and allowed to accumulate.

These have also been out there, HSAs since 2003.

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  Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers.  Congress will need the courage to step away from special interest groups.

There is no barrier to entry in the US  for drug providers.  What there is is price regulation on drug prices in every other country.  We as a country have to decide if, in return for tethered regulation (that is, tying our drug prices to a percentage of prices in a basket of other countries), we are willing to reduce the R&D budgets of pharma companies, thus compromising the introduction of new medicines.

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Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium on their tax returns.
 

This is a good suggestion. Businesses can already do this.
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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2016, 03:48:02 pm »
These are all lies.  Trump wants single-payer here because he said it works in Scotland!!!
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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2016, 04:15:36 pm »
This week's plan. What will he propose next week?

Thank you all for, again,  demonstrating the opposition to Trump is about about emotion without even a shred of rational thought.

Rather the discuss the plan, the Hate Trump Always squad immediately launched into their pre-programmed attack lines.

Really just sad to see  "Conservatives" acting just like the Political Left.

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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2016, 04:17:50 pm »
This is already available in the Obamacare exchanges.  You can go out and do this right now.

These have also been out there, HSAs since 2003.

There is no barrier to entry in the US  for drug providers.  What there is is price regulation on drug prices in every other country.  We as a country have to decide if, in return for tethered regulation (that is, tying our drug prices to a percentage of prices in a basket of other countries), we are willing to reduce the R&D budgets of pharma companies, thus compromising the introduction of new medicines.
 

This is a good suggestion. Businesses can already do this.

Good comments.

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2016, 04:19:17 pm »
Thank you all for, again,  demonstrating the opposition to Trump is about about emotion without even a shred of rational thought.

Rather the discuss the plan, the Hate Trump Always squad immediately launched into their pre-programmed attack lines.

Really just sad to see  "Conservatives" acting just like the Political Left.

Johnnie, your accusation is baffling.  Do you not see the fairly detailed discussion of Trump's plan, right above your comment?  Come on, isn't this getting old?  The Vast Rightwing Establishment thingie?

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Re: Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2016, 04:39:26 pm »
I admire your efforts GAJohnnie!  I came here to hopefully have a give and take discussion with people on Trump's plan - but I see mostly knee-jerk stuff that nothing Trump says or does will ever be right, or at least trying to be right, or some sounds pretty good, but it's not perfect, or at least he's come out with a plan in writing.....

It would be quite different if it were Cruz or Rubio's plans - but I never see these people post anything like that here.  It's like they don't even care what the other candidate's positions and plans are - at all.  Never a mention. 

Just anti-Trump, all anti-Trump, anti-Trump, anti-Trump, anti-Trump....   

It's old, repetitive, boring and I mostly just avoid the anti-Trump threads and posters now - already know what they're going to say.

I'll leave now and let you guys get back to your echo chamber. 

Meh.


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