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 MADISON, Ala. — The implosion over Donald Trump’s candidacy that Republicans had hoped to avoid arrived so virulently this weekend that many party leaders vowed never to back the billionaire and openly questioned whether the GOP could come together this election year.

At a moment when Republicans had hoped to begin taking on Hillary Clinton — who is seemingly on her way to wrapping up the Democratic nomination — the GOP has instead become consumed by a crisis over its identity and core values that is almost certain to last through the July party convention, if not the rest of the year.

A campaign full of racial overtones and petty, R-rated put-downs grew even uglier Sunday after Trump declined repeatedly in a CNN interview to repudiate the endorsement of him by David Duke, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Trump had disavowed Duke at a news conference on Friday, but he stammered when asked about Duke on Sunday.

Marco Rubio, who has been savaging Trump as a “con man” for three days, responded by saying that Trump’s defiance made him “unelectable.” The senator from Florida said at a rally in Northern Virginia, “We cannot be the party that nominates someone who refuses to condemn white supremacists.”

The fracas comes as the presidential race enters a potentially determinative month of balloting, beginning with primaries and caucuses in 11 states on Tuesday. As the campaign-trail rhetoric grew noxious over the weekend, a sense of fatalism fell over the Republican firmament, from elected officials and figureheads to major donors and strategists.

“This is an existential choice,” said former senator Norm Coleman of Minnesota, who is backing Rubio. Asked how the party could unite, Coleman said: “It gets harder every day when you hear things like not disavowing the KKK and David Duke. It’s not getting easier; it’s getting more difficult. . . . I’m hopeful the party won’t destroy itself.”

The choice for voters is not simply one of preference but rather a fundamental one about the direction they want to take the country, with the insurgent Trump promising utter transformation.

“For many Republicans, Trump is more than just a political choice,” said Kevin Madden, a veteran operative who advised 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. “It’s a litmus test for character.”

Madden, like some of his peers, said he could never vote for Trump. If he is the nominee, Madden said, “I’m prepared to write somebody in so that I have a clear conscience.”

More splintering came late Sunday when freshman Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), who has been a vocal Trump critic, declared on Twitter that if the reality TV star is nominated, he will “look for some 3rd candidate — a conservative option, a Constitutionalist.”

Some Republican leaders, however, are making far different calculations. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie enthusiastically endorsed Trump on Friday, and the two looked like running mates as they campaigned together across the South for two days.

But directly associating himself with Trump has been problematic for Christie. He stumbled through an interview Sunday with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos as the anchor questioned him over Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims entering the country.

Christie also drew public scorn from one of his top backers, Hew­lett Packard chief executive Meg Whitman, who issued a scathing statement condemning Christie for an “astonishing display of political opportunism” and calling Trump “a dishonest demagogue” who would “take America on a dangerous journey.”

Nonetheless, Trump appeared to continue to steamroll toward Super Tuesday. He staged a massive rally at a football stadium in Madison, where he received the endorsement of Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a Capitol Hill veteran and a nationally recognized opponent of illegal immigration.

“I told Donald Trump, ‘This isn’t a campaign; this is a movement,’ ” Sessions exhorted.

“You have asked for 30 years and politicians have promised for 30 years to fix illegal immigration. Have they done it?” Sessions asked the crowd.

“No!” thousands shouted back.

“Donald Trump will do it,” Sessions promised.

Pointing to his latest endorsements, Trump told the raucous Alabama crowd, “I hate to say it, but I’m becoming mainstream.”

This is not how Republican officials imagined their party would be entering the spring of 2016. They had wanted to unite around a nominee with an inclusive and broadly appealing message and begin prosecuting the case against Clinton.

Instead, they are wondering anew whether mainstream voters could accept Trump as the nominee.

“It’s scary,” South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who has endorsed Rubio, said on ABC’s “This Week.” She added: “I think what he’ll do to the Republican Party is really make us question who we are and what we’re about. And that’s something we don’t want to see happen.”

Then there’s the question of whether Trump’s fiercely loyal base of backers would shift their allegiance to Rubio or one of the other candidates — Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Ohio Gov. John Kasich or retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson — were Trump to lose the nomination.

Rubio and his aides have been promoting a #NeverTrump campaign on Twitter.

Trump said Sunday that the opposition was the latest slight against him from party insiders and a “total violation” of the Republican National Committee pledge each candidate signed vowing to support the party’s eventual nominee.

“I’m representing a lot of anger out there,” Trump said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “We’re not angry people, but we’re angry at the way this country’s being run. And a lot of them are angry at the way the Republican Party is being run.”

With Rubio vowing never to quit the race and preparing to fight Trump and possibly other candidates for delegates at a brokered convention, Trump’s allies are trying to master party rules and are laying plans to organize delegates.

Roger Stone, a Republican consultant and longtime Trump associate who does not work for the campaign, said Sunday that he has been reaching out to fellow alumni of Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign about volunteering on Trump’s behalf at the convention.

“We’re looking at pulling together people with deep knowledge and experience at Republican conventions going back to Barry Goldwater in ’64 or Reagan in ’76,” Stone said of his efforts, which have been taking place by telephone. “If they try to change the rules to steal it from Trump, he’ll need friends who understand the rules.”

Some party leaders are openly wondering how Rubio, after labeling Trump a “con man,” could show up at the convention in Cleveland and endorse him.

“I’m not sure that he can — or that he’d be invited, for that matter,” said Trent Lott, a former Senate Republican leader from Mississippi who is backing ­Kasich. “It won’t be easy to get all the forces back together.”

But Lott added: “I don’t think people have any idea what Trump would do. He might wind up being the most magnanimous, inviting and generous person you could imagine. Who knows?”

The challenging task of uniting the party falls to the RNC, which oversees the convention. Sean Spicer, the committee’s chief strategist, said the prospect of a Clinton presidency would serve as a unifying force.

“There is an overwhelming understanding in our party that we have to be united against Hillary Clinton, because there is too much at stake, if you just look at the Supreme Court alone,” Spicer said. “After the last eight years, everyone on the Republican side understands that.”

Richard Wadhams, a former chairman of the Colorado Republican Party, said there has been a growing acceptance of Trump in recent weeks among party leaders and rank-and-file activists alike.

“There’s a strong possibility that Trump is going to be the nominee, and a lot of Republicans are ready to accept that even though they’ve not been supporters of him,” Wadhams said. “The penchant to defeat Hillary Clinton will transcend any concerns about the way Trump has conducted himself.”

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Spray tans, pants-wetting and little hands: The GOP race goes in the gutter

There’s talk of bad spray tans, sweat and urination. Accusations that a rival has ties to the mob. They’ve called one another “little” or “a con artist.” And they all agree that the other guys are liars.

In the run-up to Super Tuesday, Republican presidential candidates Donald Trump and Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ted Cruz (Tex.) are hurling deeply personal attacks about one another’s appearances and personal backgrounds — amounting to a level of petty and profane discourse unprecedented in a presidential campaign. Voters express more sorrow than anger as the insults fly, while Republican Party leaders fear that the deteriorating tone of the race could have longer-term implications.

“I had hoped that this would be a campaign only about ideas and a vision for tomorrow. . . . But unfortunately, this has been a very different election year and things have worked out in ways no one anticipated,” Rubio told supporters Sunday at Patrick Henry College in Purcellville, Va.

Moments later, his rally quickly grew chaotic as protesters stood, shouted and waved signs reading, “Marco Rubio Empty Suit.”

Supporters jeered at the protesters, while Rubio responded with a smile: “My suit wasn’t made in China. It’s not a Trump suit.”

The name-calling has long been the province of Trump, who has elevated the insult-tweet to an art form and who spent months tormenting now-departed candidate Jeb Bush as “low energy” and worse. But now Trump’s two main rivals — particularly Rubio — have suddenly joined in, personally attacking the billionaire GOP front-runner, as Trump is poised for big wins in this week’s Super Tuesday primaries.

“I never thought I would see the Republican Party come to this, to act like children,” said Gail Garner, 67, who attended a Rubio rally Saturday in Birmingham, Ala. “It sounds like a bunch of kindergartners messing around on the playground.”

Party elders, already concerned about how Trump’s rise could rob the GOP of a White House victory, said they worry about how Rubio and others are now adopting his tactics.

“The catfight going on in the Republican Party right now is just an embarrassment,” said Fred Malek, finance chairman of the Republican Governors Association and a longtime major party donor. “This is schoolyard stuff. It’s disgusting and juvenile.”

Former Senate majority leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), a supporter of Ohio Gov. John Kasich, said he’s “totally embarrassed by a lot of the things Trump has said, and I understand why Rubio is swinging to the fences, but to get into who’s tall, who’s short, who’s got a decent haircut, who’s sweaty — I don’t like it.”

On the trail, Cruz has repeatedly called Trump and Rubio liars, and on Sunday he suggested that Trump is refusing to disclose his tax returns because he has close business ties to the Mafia.

“Maybe his tax returns show that those business dealings are a lot more extensive than has been reported,” he told ABC’s “This Week.”

Trump complained Sunday about the fresh attacks and suggested, as he has before, that he might leave the party if they keep up.

“I’ve been very good. I’ve been very straight and honest and honorable, and they’re not treating me well,” he said about party leaders on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

He accused Rubio of “saying terrible things, just personal, terrible things. And I don’t think it’s fair the way that the establishment is treating Donald Trump.”

On Twitter, however, Trump kept up the invective — mocking Rubio as a “little boy,” a “no-show senator” and a “lightweight.” Another tweet said Cruz “has accomplished absolutely nothing” for his Texas constituents.

At rallies in recent days, Trump also has repeatedly called Rubio “Little Marco” or “Little Rubio.” Rubio hit back Sunday night by mocking Trump at a rally at Roanoke College in Salem, Va., saying the businessman has tiny hands.

“You know what they say about men with small hands,” Rubio said, pausing for laughter. “You can’t trust them.”

At a Sunday town hall meeting in Springfield, Mass., Kasich condemned Trump’s meandering non-answer on Sunday to a question about his support from white supremacists. But he quickly described it as part of a generally nasty campaign, of rival candidates “hurling so many insults back and forth.” Asked whether he thought Rubio’s insults of Trump were inappropriate, Kasich told reporters to judge for themselves.

“All the screaming, and the yelling, and the name-calling, and the personal insults — if that’s what you’re doing, then you need to wear it,” he said.

[That time Marco Rubio went full Trump on Donald Trump]

Rubio especially has made his attacks more personal since deciding to go aggressively after Trump during the most recent Republican debate, on Thursday. The freshman senator on Friday read a series of Trump tweets aloud to thousands of supporters in downtown Dallas. He called Trump “a con artist” who “spent his entire career sticking it to the little guy.” He mocked Trump’s tough-guy demeanor, saying the front-runner “was the first guy who begged for Secret Service protection.” During Thursday’s debate, Rubio said that Trump needed extra makeup to cover up sweat and said Trump wanted a full-length mirror backstage “to make sure his pants weren’t wet.”

On Saturday in Alabama, Rubio told voters in Birmingham that “I’ve used strong words. My parents didn’t raise me that way, but I feel passionate about it.”

Then in Huntsville, he told voters that Trump “should be worrying about the lines around his eyes from the horrible spray tan.”

Rubio supporters appear to be reluctantly accepting his shift in tone.

“It’s like playground-at-the-school kind of behavior,” said Haydee Wilensky, 57, of Purcellville. “He needs to just focus on telling Republicans that Trump is not qualified.”

Trina Weir, 57, of Front Royal, Va., said, “I hate to see the sophomoric activity like that, but after the smoke clears, let’s see who’s being more substantive.”

In Huntsville, Rubio supporter Jennifer Evans, 27, said the senator needs to attack because Trump is “so insulting. He doesn’t critique the other candidates, he just flat-out insults them.”

Said Lindsey Gorin, 33, in Huntsville: “This wasn’t what Marco’s campaign was about. He’s an honest, good guy. He only brings up the spray tan because he wants to point out how stupid Trump’s attacks are.”

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Trump will lose.  The number of people like me who would never vote for him is not insignificant.

He better be pimping Planned Parenthood to get those Dem votes.  His supporters don't care if he goes full-on partial-birth-abortion.

Just win, baby!!
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Trump will lose.  The number of people like me who would never vote for him is not insignificant.

He better be pimping Planned Parenthood to get those Dem votes.  His supporters don't care if he goes full-on partial-birth-abortion.

Just win, baby!!

The number of people like you who would never vote for him is insignificant enough. Talk to us next weekend.
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Once he has the nomination sewn up, I would expect Trump to put all of his deal-making skills to the test and try to build a broad-based coalition that is capable of taking on Hillary for the Fall.  There is a lot of doubt and resistance out there.  We'll see of he can pull it off.

If Trump fails to unite the party, I would expect some sort of movement to draft Mitt Romney or someone of that ilk to make an independent bid.

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Once he has the nomination sewn up, I would expect Trump to put all of his deal-making skills to the test and try to build a broad-based coalition that is capable of taking on Hillary for the Fall.  There is a lot of doubt and resistance out there.  We'll see of he can pull it off.

If Trump fails to unite the party, I would expect some sort of movement to draft Mitt Romney or someone of that ilk to make an independent bid.

There are plenty of rumblings out there to that point to the GOPe preferring Hillary over Trump.  We have posters on this board stating this is their preference.
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There are plenty of rumblings out there to that point to the GOPe preferring Hillary over Trump.  We have posters on this board stating this is their preference.

Anyone who would vote for HRC under any circumstances is delusional, IMHO. 

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Anyone who would vote for HRC under any circumstances is delusional, IMHO.

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Went to the Primary voting booth today.

It was a loooong line.

I had the privilege of standing in line right in front of a Rubio supporter.  He was $hit-faced drunk and had the to hug the wall to keep from falling down.  He kept mumbling 'anyone but Trump.'

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Anyone who would vote for HRC under any circumstances is delusional, IMHO.

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Went to the Primary voting booth today.

It was a loooong line.

I had the privilege of standing in line right in front of a Rubio supporter.  He was $hit-faced drunk and had the to hug the wall to keep from falling down.  He kept mumbling 'anyone but Trump.'

What do you think of that early voting, Hap?

They opened it up for us today, but I didn't feel up to getting out. 

I have never "early voted" before.  Do you believe that there is sufficient ballot security for 2 weeks (that is what it is for us in FL, March 15 is the primary date)?  I guess that we can't really know.  Still trying to decide if I want to take the risk.

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What do you think of that early voting, Hap?

They opened it up for us today, but I didn't feel up to getting out. 

I have never "early voted" before.  Do you believe that there is sufficient ballot security for 2 weeks (that is what it is for us in FL, March 15 is the primary date)?  I guess that we can't really know.  Still trying to decide if I want to take the risk.

I know the questions wasn't directed at me, but -- some of the early voting ballots in my area didn't get counted and weren't found (surprise) until after the election was declared.  I'm sure though things have improved since the last election, right?
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Trump will lose.  The number of people like me who would never vote for him is not insignificant.

He better be pimping Planned Parenthood to get those Dem votes.  His supporters don't care if he goes full-on partial-birth-abortion.

Just win, baby!!

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What do you think of that early voting, Hap?

They opened it up for us today, but I didn't feel up to getting out. 

I have never "early voted" before.  Do you believe that there is sufficient ballot security for 2 weeks (that is what it is for us in FL, March 15 is the primary date)?  I guess that we can't really know.  Still trying to decide if I want to take the risk.

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The early vote option (was) a good one.  Record turnouts are being reported all over the country for them.  I did it out of selfishness not to have to wait in the reeeeealy long lines on Tuesday.

Something is definitely up.

edit:  The only thing I can think of that is pushing the large early turnout is . .  . Donald Trump.  I haven't seen this much interest in voting since Reagan ate Jimmy Carter for lunch.
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The early vote option (was) a good one.  Record turnouts are being reported all over the country for them.  I did it out of selfishness not to have to wait in the reeeeealy long lines on Tuesday.

Something is definitely up.

edit:  The only thing I can think of that is pushing the large early turnout is . .  . Donald Trump.  I haven't seen this much interest in voting since Reagan ate Jimmy Carter for lunch.

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The early vote option (was) a good one.  Record turnouts are being reported all over the country for them.  I did it out of selfishness not to have to wait in the reeeeealy long lines on Tuesday.

Something is definitely up.

edit:  The only thing I can think of that is pushing the large early turnout is . .  . Donald Trump.  I haven't seen this much interest in voting since Reagan ate Jimmy Carter for lunch.


I know the questions wasn't directed at me, but -- some of the early voting ballots in my area didn't get counted and weren't found (surprise) until after the election was declared.  I'm sure though things have improved since the last election, right?

Thanks for your replies, Liberty and Hap.

At this point I am thinking that it will probably be best to wait for March 15.  This way I will worry less about my ballot getting "lost" and will be able to enjoy the buzz around the polling place!

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Dump Trumpers have now lowered themselves to the point they just post other people's images instead of writing an actual response.

What a meltdown!
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Dump Trumpers have now lowered themselves to the point they just post other people's images instead of writing an actual response.

What a meltdown!

Tonight, I'm glad I'm a Trumpster. 

GO TRUMP!
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Dump Trumpers have now lowered themselves to the point they just post other people's images instead of writing an actual response.

What a meltdown!

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melt·down

    : an accident in which the core of a nuclear reactor melts and releases radiation

    : a very fast collapse or failure

    : a very fast loss of emotional self-control