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Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« on: January 26, 2016, 01:36:41 pm »
 By Rebecca Shabad CBS News January 26, 2016, 7:00 AM
Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa

Businessman Donald Trump and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz are in a virtual tie in Iowa where the primary season kicks off next Monday at the caucuses.

A Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday found 31 percent of likely GOP caucus goers in Iowa back Trump, a few points ahead of Cruz, who received 29 percent support.

The poll found 13 percent back Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and no other GOP presidential candidate received more than 7 percent support. These results are unchanged from the last poll conducted in mid-January.

Read more here: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz-in-a-virtual-tie-in-iowa/

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2016, 01:41:11 pm »
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/iowa/release-detail?ReleaseID=2318

January 26, 2016 - Trump, Cruz Go Down To The Wire In Iowa GOP Caucus, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Rubio A Distant Third As Others All But Disappear

The Iowa Republican Caucus is a two-man race going down to the wire with Donald Trump at 31 percent and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas at 29 percent among likely Republican Caucus participants, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is at 13 percent, with no other candidate above 7 percent.

This is virtually unchanged from results of a January 11 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University showing Trump at 31 percent, with 29 percent for Cruz and 15 percent for Rubio.

Today, 2 percent are undecided and 39 percent of those who name a candidate say they might change their mind.

Among Iowa Republican Caucus-goers, 24 percent say they "would definitely not support" Trump, with 24 percent who would not support former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. Only 12 percent say 'no way' to Cruz.

"Despite Sarah Palin's endorsement of Donald Trump and Gov. Terry Branstad's criticism of Sen. Ted Cruz, and despite - or because of - Sen. Cruz' 'New York values' comments, the Iowa Republican Caucus remains too close to call," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"One week before the caucuses gather, the question is which candidate has the best field organization. If the events of the last two weeks haven't moved the needle, one wonders what would change it in the next six days."

"It all comes down to turnout. And with four in 10 likely caucus participants saying they still might change their mind, this is an especially volatile race,"
Brown added.

"One thing is increasingly evident, the conservative wing of the Republican party, at least in Iowa, is carrying the day," Brown added.

Cruz is taking the lion's share of the right wing among Iowa likely Republican Caucus participants, with Trump taking a good chunk and only a few scraps for the rest of the pack.

Cruz leads Trump:

    50 - 34 percent among self-professed Tea Party members;
    39 - 27 percent among white, born-again Evangelical Christians;
    49 - 29 percent among voters describing themselves as "very conservative."

Trump leads Cruz:

    29 - 21 percent among self-identified "somewhat conservative" voters;
    37 - 6 percent among voters claiming to be "moderate" or "liberal."

The economy and jobs is the most important issue in deciding their vote, 27 percent of likely Republican Caucus participants say, with 18 percent listing terrorism, 11 percent citing foreign policy and 10 percent pointing to the federal deficit.

From January 18 - 24, Quinnipiac University surveyed 651 Iowa likely Republican Caucus participants with a margin of error of +/- 3.8 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2016, 01:48:17 pm »
Let's stay sober and recognize the elephant in the room - neither Trump nor Cruz is electable in the general.   From the narrow standpoint of turning Clinton away from the White House,  the best service Trump and Cruz could do is poison each other politically.

     
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2016, 02:07:22 pm »

Rubio may yet emerge. However, nothing in the polling thus far indicates there's a chance that will happen.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2016, 02:08:35 pm »

If economy and jobs remain the top issue among Iowa Republicans, Trump wins.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2016, 02:28:51 pm »
If economy and jobs remain the top issue among Iowa Republicans, Trump wins.

For what end?  He can't win in the general; outside the bubble you choose to reside in, he's one of the most despised figures in American politics.  Dig these favorable/unfavorable ratings,  according to Chuck Todd as quoted on this Sunday's Meet the Press:

    - Negative 26 points among independents

    - Negative 36 points among women

    - Negative 24 among suburban voters.   

Trump supporters are deluding themselves - and paving the way for a landslide Democratic victory.     
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2016, 02:38:17 pm »
For what end?  He can't win in the general; outside the bubble you choose to reside in, he's one of the most despised figures in American politics.  Dig these favorable/unfavorable ratings,  according to Chuck Todd as quoted on this Sunday's Meet the Press:

    - Negative 26 points among independents

    - Negative 36 points among women

    - Negative 24 among suburban voters.   

Trump supporters are deluding themselves - and paving the way for a landslide Democratic victory.     

I'm confident those numbers will change. We're not yet in the general election. Give him time. When it's a choice between the socialist or criminal against the popular, strong, successful businessman. Trump wins.

Six months ago Donald Trump's negatives hovered around 70%. But, negatives can easily be turned around. Today, Trump's negatives are 15%.

In the general election Donald Trump wins against the Democrats hands-down.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2016, 02:42:16 pm »
Frankly I don't know why we get so excited about Iowa, when only 43% of the Iowa Republican Party winners go on to be the nominee.  That is 3 out of 7 since 1976.      I know if Trump does win Iowa, the Trump supporters will be all too eager to jump on here and say its over for us Cruz and Rubio, some ridiculing anyone saying otherwise. The usual suspect will post his comments that will include that emoji beating a chair over our heads.

But we know the odds are in our favor, despite what happens in Iowa, and we are in this for the duration, and so are our candidates. And with Cruz closing that gap and Rubio still capable of a breakout, there is even less likelihood Trump will make it into that 43%. Especially if he can't keep his pie hole shut, which still seems to be problem.
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2016, 02:49:24 pm »
Rubio may yet emerge. However, nothing in the polling thus far indicates there's a chance that will happen.

A lot of things can happen.  The debate is Thursday and we are only days away from the Iowa caucus.  I look for a lot of candidates to drop out afterwards; especially those that are barely staying afloat financially.
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2016, 02:59:13 pm »
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In the general election Donald Trump wins against the Democrats hands-down.

I'll take some of what you're smoking, AC.   Did you read what I posted above?  Negatives of 26, 36 and 24 percentage points among independents, women and suburban voters, while you airily declare his "negatives are 14%"  Among who? 

The only conceivable scenario in which Trump could win the general is if one or more independents siphon off enough votes so that the winner need only gain a plurality of maybe 30%.   If Bloomberg runs, that'll be the existential question for those who oppose Trumpism - is giving a vote to Bloomberg actually helping Trump?
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2016, 03:57:05 pm »
I'll take some of what you're smoking, AC.   Did you read what I posted above?  Negatives of 26, 36 and 24 percentage points among independents, women and suburban voters, while you airily declare his "negatives are 14%"  Among who? 

The only conceivable scenario in which Trump could win the general is if one or more independents siphon off enough votes so that the winner need only gain a plurality of maybe 30%.   If Bloomberg runs, that'll be the existential question for those who oppose Trumpism - is giving a vote to Bloomberg actually helping Trump?

I will add one more. 1/3 of Republican voters (including myself) have said they will NOT vote for Trump if he is the nominee. They will either not vote, or will exercise their right to write in a candidate of their choice. Never in history has a Republican front runner had that high of a percentage of voters stating that. Not even close.   
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2016, 04:09:29 pm »
I will add one more. 1/3 of Republican voters (including myself) have said they will NOT vote for Trump if he is the nominee. They will either not vote, or will exercise their right to write in a candidate of their choice. Never in history has a Republican front runner had that high of a percentage of voters stating that. Not even close.   

Nor will I.  And I've been voting GOP for forty years.   If Trump's the nominee, I'm gone (well, I'll vote for Pat Toomey for Senate, and then I'll be gone). 

Trump is loathsome.  Trump is dangerous.  Trump is amoral. Trump is a con man who despises his own marks, er, supporters as fools.   
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2016, 04:39:12 pm »

"The four most recent polls in Iowa have shown Trump reclaiming a solid lead in the state. The RealClearPolitics average of polls now shows Trump with a 6 point lead over Cruz, just days ahead of voting."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/26/ted-cruz-lowers-expectations-in-iowa/

If evangelicals are coming out for Donald Trump--and they are--sort of blows the whole, "he's not conservative" enough to be elected president argument out of the water.

The next few days will see much gnashing of teeth.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2016, 04:42:54 pm »
I'll take some of what you're smoking, AC.   Did you read what I posted above?  Negatives of 26, 36 and 24 percentage points among independents, women and suburban voters, while you airily declare his "negatives are 14%"  Among who? 

The only conceivable scenario in which Trump could win the general is if one or more independents siphon off enough votes so that the winner need only gain a plurality of maybe 30%.   If Bloomberg runs, that'll be the existential question for those who oppose Trumpism - is giving a vote to Bloomberg actually helping Trump?

Do you even know who this guy is?

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2016, 05:09:58 pm »
Let's stay sober and recognize the elephant in the room - neither Trump nor Cruz is electable in the general.   From the narrow standpoint of turning Clinton away from the White House,  the best service Trump and Cruz could do is poison each other politically.

And you know this to be a fact because?
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2016, 05:15:53 pm »
In a Jan. 12, 2016, interview, Republican presidential hopeful Ted Cruz was asked by Lester Holt, the NBC News anchor, why he’s taking pokes from frontrunning businessman Donald Trump--such as questions about Cruz’s birth in Canada.

Cruz replied, in part, by suggesting flames are being fanned by foes mindful that Cruz fares better against Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton in national polls than Trump.

"Right now Donald Trump is losing to Hillary Clinton in national polls," Cruz said. "Right now I am beating Hillary Clinton in national polls." Cruz made a similar claim that night to Megyn Kelly of Fox News, saying: "Hillary in the national polling beats Donald badly, but I’m beating Hilllary in the national polling."

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2016, 05:21:51 pm »
I will add one more. 1/3 of Republican voters (including myself) have said they will NOT vote for Trump if he is the nominee. They will either not vote, or will exercise their right to write in a candidate of their choice. Never in history has a Republican front runner had that high of a percentage of voters stating that. Not even close.   

I will NOT vote for Trump either.
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2016, 05:30:31 pm »
I will add one more. 1/3 of Republican voters (including myself) have said they will NOT vote for Trump if he is the nominee. They will either not vote, or will exercise their right to write in a candidate of their choice. Never in history has a Republican front runner had that high of a percentage of voters stating that. Not even close.   

In the beginning, 60 to 70% of Republican primary voters said they refuse to support Donald Trump – ever, under any circumstances.

Today, that number is 15%. I think you may be working off of old numbers, and it appears a few of them have changed their mind.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2016, 05:33:12 pm »
And you know this to be a fact because?

Because there aren't enough dumbass bigots to elect Trump in the general.   
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2016, 05:35:45 pm »
Because there aren't enough dumbass bigots to elect Trump in the general.

Temper, temper. I'm one of those dumbass bigots.

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2016, 06:34:32 pm »
Let's stay sober and recognize the elephant in the room - neither Trump nor Cruz is electable in the general.   From the narrow standpoint of turning Clinton away from the White House,  the best service Trump and Cruz could do is poison each other politically.

   

WRONG AGAIN!

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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2016, 06:45:57 pm »
Temper, temper. I'm one of those dumbass bigots.

Whatever.  There aren't enough of them.   
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2016, 07:32:32 pm »
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Re: Poll: Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in a virtual tie in Iowa
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2016, 07:41:35 pm »
Your own link puts Trump losing against Clinton. So - not wrong.


Yea, Thanks Longiron for posting that the link to this:

Trump appears to fare slightly worse than either Cruz or Rubio when matched up against either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. All six match-ups are close, with no one candidate leading another outside the margin of error of 3.5 percentage points for registered voters. But Rubio and Cruz each hit 50% support when matched against Clinton, while Trump stalls at 47%.
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