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Stop being so damn right, will ya?

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Unfortunately, I don't have good solutions to offer.

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Or you could actually read what Trump proposed, which is certainly not government single-payer no matter how many times you guys say it is.  I'm a Cruz supporter, by the way.

Out of curiosity, is there a GOP candidate running on repealing Medicaid?  If so, would someone please point them out to me.  I'd be interested in knowing this, given how it seems to be bad that Trump wants to keep it.

 :pondering: by George, no! There are no 'throw the poor off Medicaid' proponents among the seven or so remaining viable candidates.

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:pondering: by George, no! There are no 'throw the poor off Medicaid' proponents among the seven or so remaining viable candidates.

So is this yet another Hit and Run thread where the actual criticism of Trump's healthcare proposal, vague as it is, isn't going to be debated for the umpteenth time?

It gets frustrating when the same debunked criticisms are posted over and over when anyone that has actually cared to learned the facts knows it's a lie.  I admit I was intrigued by the Trump Wants Single Payer hook, but after 5 minutes of actually reading what he said I find that claim to be untrue.

The only way it is true is if the person posting doesn't actually know what "single-payer" actually is.
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Or, there may be some among us that have reading comprehension problems.  That might explain why some only read the headline and go off on a knee-jerk response to it without reading the article and checking it's veracity first.

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This is simply my opinion, with only my own observations to back it up.

I think obamacare paved the way for single payer healthcare. Now that throngs of baby boomers are retiring/retired, they want some form of healthcare that won't bankrupt them. The more fortunate of the working class have paid off their house just in time to replace the payment with healthcare premiums. And God forbid they actually get sick, that's a path to bankruptcy.

It's my opinion that the party that comes up with a fix/alternative to obamacare that works is going to do much to win over voters. Not to mention help a lot of Americans, (something that seems to be low on the list when doing political calculus.)

That is my opinion also,but IMHO no human being alive is capable of doing that.

If you can find somebody that wise,how about do me a favor and ask them what exists after reaching the point where the universe ends? Surely such a simple question should be easy for them to answer if they can fix that mess to everyone's satisfaction.

MY observations are that EVERYWHERE goobermint-mandated health care has became a reality,the quality of care suffers,and the death rate increases by a huge amount as the caretakers have to budget health care. There are NO exceptions to this rule.

On the other hand,where the market itself dicatates the rates,the cost of health care will always go down due to competition and the desire for the industry members to stay in business. Given them access to the goobermint teat,and there is no upper limit to the costs. I might not be personally happy about this,but that is the reality we live under,and the reality we are going to have to live by until we get to the point where we can start flying Unicorns to work.

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Donald Trump’s father-in-law is a communist who looks exactly like him

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/donald-trumps-father-in-law-is-a-communist-who-looks-exactly-like-him-5470817/#ixzz3yHDNFdiG

I think he looks more like William Shatner. Which is fitting if he is a communist,because  communism is a success only in a fantasy world.

BTW,you don't really think that Trump gives a damn about the politics of the father of his trophy wife,do you? Most likely all he cared about was how she looked in and out of a tight,short dress.

Trump is,IMHO,all flash and no substance,and he doesn't give a damn what anybody else thinks,not even father in laws.
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Something weird about that article, supposedly this interview just took place, but it is word for word an answer that was posted here weeks ago.  Once again - Trump said for the lower 25% that can't afford it, the government will pay for it - we have that now, it's called Medicaid. 

After you wait forever for the page to load and punch through all the pop-ups, that is.

And that is one of the very good reasons that we need to seal the borders and send the 3rd world illegal aliens back to the 3rd world they came from,and stop that Anchor Baby nonsense!

I personally have no objection to part of my tax money going to help my fellow Americans get the health care they need and can't afford,but I will be damned if I will ever agree to pay for health care for the whole damn 3rd world!
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Donald Trump’s father-in-law is a communist who looks exactly like him

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/donald-trumps-father-in-law-is-a-communist-who-looks-exactly-like-him-5470817/#ixzz3yHDNFdiG


FINALLY!!!!!   thank you so much, Bigun!  That is the LAST STRAW!   

FINALLY, I have a reason to run away from Trump and embrace Cruz or Rubio.   


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Hate to tell Romney, but a lot of people have health insurance now - they just don't have health CARE now.

They just can't ever use their health insurance unless they get hit by a truck or something and have to.  By the time you pay the large premiums and then have to satisfy the HUGE deductibles, you're in far worse shape than you were before Obamacare.  The poor always got Medicaid - they still get free health care without the insurance premiums and deductibles. 

Now, it's the middle class staying home instead of going to the doctor because they can't afford it.

Yeah Romney, it's better now.  Thanks.

All excellent points,and true.
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And that is one of the very good reasons that we need to seal the borders and send the 3rd world illegal aliens back to the 3rd world they came from,and stop that Anchor Baby nonsense!

I personally have no objection to part of my tax money going to help my fellow Americans get the health care they need and can't afford,but I will be damned if I will ever agree to pay for health care for the whole damn 3rd world!

And on that - we agree! 

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Hey, DC. I wish you'd engage more on these Trump treads. You've been holding back, and I miss you. What up? Everything okay?

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Hey, DC. I wish you'd engage more on these Trump treads. You've been holding back, and I miss you. What up? Everything okay?

Thought that was what you were going to ask me, Sal.    :laugh:

Figured that everybody here knows I'm a Trump fan, and nobody is ever going to be able to change that except Trump himself.

But the truth is, at my seasoned age, my social filter is shot and needs a transplant.

I have started dozens of posts....only to delete them before hitting "post".

Lately, I'm in awe with your diplomatic skills dealing with these trolls.   I'm not worthy.

And out of respect for Myst, the MODS, and about a dozen or so members in here, have decided to more or less avoid mixing it up with these 'new' or recycled members.

But I implore you to carry on the fight.   Your posts are an elixir to me.    :beer:
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I think he looks more like William Shatner. Which is fitting if he is a communist,because  communism is a success only in a fantasy world.

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Shatner is also an avowed atheist.

Strange how the mix of hollywood, communism, and atheism 'play' so well together.

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Something weird about that article, supposedly this interview just took place, but it is word for word an answer that was posted here weeks ago.  Once again - Trump said for the lower 25% that can't afford it, the government will pay for it - we have that now, it's called Medicaid. 

After you wait forever for the page to load and punch through all the pop-ups, that is.

The source threw me off. They made it appear this was a brand new interview yesterday the way it was worded.  I should have known he couldn't be that consistent over a few weeks, at that a couple of months.
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Thought that was what you were going to ask me, Sal.    :laugh:

Figured that everybody here knows I'm a Trump fan, and nobody is ever going to be able to change that except Trump himself.

But the truth is, at my seasoned age, my social filter is shot and needs a transplant.

I have started dozens of posts....only to delete them before hitting "post".

Lately, I'm in awe with your diplomatic skills dealing with these trolls.   I'm not worthy.

And out of respect for Myst, the MODS, and about a dozen or so members in here, have decided to more or less avoid mixing it up with these 'new' or recycled members.

But I implore you to carry on the fight.   Your posts are an elixir to me.    :beer:

Got it. Thanks for the kind words. You are ever the gentleman. We're lucky to have you.  :patriot:

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Got it. Thanks for the kind words. You are ever the gentleman. We're lucky to have you.  :patriot:

Thanks, but it's you we're lucky to have here.    :beer:  You've the patience of Job.   
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Shatner is also an avowed atheist.

Strange how the mix of hollywood, communism, and atheism 'play' so well together.

I'm agnostic. Does that make me a socialist?
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I'm agnostic. Does that make me a socialist?

I thought you were a potato Strax. :)

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I thought you were a potato Strax. :)



Ia that anything like a Baritone?
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