Trump: Establishment rallying behind me to stop 'nasty' Cruz

[Carling]

I have to admit I'm getting sick and tired of this stuff from Trump.  It is giving him a loyal base of supporters but as a Cruz supporter, it is turning me off to The Donald.  Ted Cruz actually stands on principle and DNGAF, just like Trump, so to see this constantly from Trump is disappointing.  I know why he's doing it, but I don't like it anyhow.

I also find his comments on eminent domain to be a straw man, since Trump didn't use it to build highways or dams.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266922-trump-establishment-rallying-behind-me-to-stop-nasty-cruz

GOP front-runner Donald Trump says establishment Republicans are warming up to his presidential bid because they're terrified of Ted Cruz being the party’s nominee.

“I think the establishment actually is against me but really coming on line because they see me as opposed to Cruz, who is a nasty guy who can’t get along with anybody,” Trump said in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Monday.

“Look, at a certain point, we got to make deals,” Trump continued. “We can’t have a guy who stands in the middle of the Senate floor and every other senator thinks he’s a whack job. You have to make deals, you have to get along, that’s the purpose of what our founders created, and Ted cannot get along with anybody. He’s a nasty person.”

oth Trump and Cruz are viewed as outsider candidates and largely despised by the political class, which is holding out hope that a mainstream Republican like Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie or John Kasich can break out in the crowded field.
But with only one week to go before the Iowa caucuses, Trump and Cruz are running one and two in Iowa, while the moderate candidates are splitting support and, with the exception of Rubio, mired in single-digits.

The tight race between Trump and Cruz has shattered a tenuous peace between the two.

In recent weeks, Trump has been assailing Cruz for being an opposition figure who is incapable of working with his colleagues to get things done and making a pitch to the evangelical voters who have migrated into his rival’s camp.

Cruz, meanwhile, has sought to highlight Trump’s past support for liberal causes, and has honed in on the issue of eminent domain, which gives the government power to seize a private citizen’s land.

One Cruz ad accused Trump of colluding with “Atlantic City insiders to bulldoze the home of an elderly widow for a limousine parking lot at his casino.”

Trump shot back at that ad on Monday.

“He tells lies,” Trump said. “He says I knocked down some woman’s home … had bulldozers — I didn’t knock it down some woman’s home, she didn’t want it.”

Trump also offered a full-throated defense of eminent domain, saying its integral to building out the nation’s infrastructure.

“The word eminent domain — you wouldn’t have roads, you wouldn’t have airports you wouldn’t have hospitals, you wouldn’t schools,” Trump said. “You have to have eminent domain.

“By the way, the Keystone Pipeline is all eminent domain,” he continued. “You wouldn’t move that thing ten feet without taking that land on which it sits. And by the way all of those people get paid a lot of money, it’s not like they take it. They take it and pay a lot of money. But he makes a big deal out of eminent domain — you wouldn’t have a country, you wouldn’t have one highway in this country, you wouldn’t have a railroad, you wouldn’t have anything.”

[HAPPY2BME]

I have to admit I'm getting sick and tired of this stuff from Trump.  It is giving him a loyal base of supporters but as a Cruz supporter, it is turning me off to The Donald.  Ted Cruz actually stands on principle and DNGAF, just like Trump, so to see this constantly from Trump is disappointing.  I know why he's doing it, but I don't like it anyhow.

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What do you want Trump to do, just drop out?

[Meshuge Mikey]

I have to admit I'm getting sick and tired of this stuff from Trump.  It is giving him a loyal base of supporters but as a Cruz supporter, it is turning me off to The Donald.  Ted Cruz actually stands on principle and DNGAF, just like Trump, so to see this constantly from Trump is disappointing.  I know why he's doing it, but I don't like it anyhow.

I also find his comments on eminent domain to be a straw man, since Trump didn't use it to build highways or dams.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266922-trump-establishment-rallying-behind-me-to-stop-nasty-cruz

Donald is appealing to the "true Believers" as defined so well In Eric Hoffers Book of the same Name


TRUMP says:..."I'm a true believer. And you're many true believers — I hope all — is everybody a true believer in this room? I think so. But Christianity is under tremendous siege," “The quality of ideas seems to play a minor role in mass movement leadership. What counts is the arrogant gesture, the complete disregard of the opinion of others, the singlehanded defiance of the world.”

Eric Hoffer said!

“The quality of ideas seems to play a minor role in mass movement leadership. What counts is the arrogant gesture, the complete disregard of the opinion of others, the singlehanded defiance of the world.”
― Eric Hoffer, The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements

 https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/17715]The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements

[Carling]

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What do you want Trump to do, just drop out?

No, I like that he's in the race and he's my second choice to Cruz.

I just don't like how he is clobbering a guy who has many of the same ideas about the establishment in DC.

[Longiron]

No, I like that he's in the race and he's my second choice to Cruz.

I just don't like how he is clobbering a guy who has many of the same ideas about the establishment in DC.

The don't talk about him, Talk about CRUZ. SIMPLE!

[Sanguine]

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What do you want Trump to do, just drop out?

How about stop attacking his fellow Republicans and if he's got to attack someone, go for the enemy?

[Meshuge Mikey]

How about stop attacking his fellow Republicans and if he's got to attack someone, go for the enemy?

The enemy isn't his enemy!  His praise of Both  Baraq Obama and Hillary Clinton sort of Hint at that. 

[Longiron]

The enemy isn't his enemy!  His praise of Both  Baraq Obama and Hillary Clinton sort of Hint at that.

No other POTUS candidates, RINOGOPe, CONSERVATIVES ever attacked TRUMP. Where the hell have U been living in. He NEVER attacked anyone but the DEMS. Every other R Candidate attacked him FIRST and he will come back HARD and all lost or are losing. You don't like TRUMP , fine don't vote for him? But there are some on here that think he will be the NEXT POTUS. Then TRUMP haters never say whom their candidate is for the most part and NEVER say what they will do differently or WHY? They just LIE like you are doing and hate it when someone calls you out. You been on here for 20 minutes and all you have done is attacked TRUMP for anything and say and lie about anything that will supports your case which thus far has been all BS. Say what you want but defend it just ONCE with facts and back them up. The TRUMP supporters do and I guess that's really PO you and the HATERS.

[Meshuge Mikey]

No other POTUS candidates, RINOGOPe, CONSERVATIVES ever attacked TRUMP. Where the hell have U been living in. He NEVER attacked anyone but the DEMS. Every other R Candidate attacked him FIRST and he will come back HARD and all lost or are losing. You don't like TRUMP , fine don't vote for him? But there are some on here that think he will be the NEXT POTUS. Then TRUMP haters never say whom their candidate is for the most part and NEVER say what they will do differently or WHY? They just LIE like you are doing and hate it when someone calls you out. You been on here for 20 minutes and all you have done is attacked TRUMP for anything and say and lie about anything that will supports your case which thus far has been all BS. Say what you want but defend it just ONCE with facts and back them up. The TRUMP supporters do and I guess that's really PO you and the HATERS.

Shalom!

[Meshuge Mikey]

No other POTUS candidates, RINOGOPe, CONSERVATIVES ever attacked TRUMP. Where the hell have U been living in. He NEVER attacked anyone but the DEMS. Every other R Candidate attacked him FIRST and he will come back HARD and all lost or are losing. You don't like TRUMP , fine don't vote for him? But there are some on here that think he will be the NEXT POTUS. Then TRUMP haters never say whom their candidate is for the most part and NEVER say what they will do differently or WHY? They just LIE like you are doing and hate it when someone calls you out. You been on here for 20 minutes and all you have done is attacked TRUMP for anything and say and lie about anything that will supports your case which thus far has been all BS. Say what you want but defend it just ONCE with facts and back them up. The TRUMP supporters do and I guess that's really PO you and the HATERS.

how about ANYBODY BUT TRUMP??  thats who Im for!!! on the "republican side" and NO DEMOCRAT!!

[Longiron]

how about ANYBODY BUT TRUMP??  thats who Im for!!! on the "republican side" and NO DEMOCRAT!!

Yes you sound just like a Republican Conservative and best of luck in maintaining the status quo. Not going to happen and you will be PO for the next 8 years.

[Sanguine]

No other POTUS candidates, RINOGOPe, CONSERVATIVES ever attacked TRUMP. Where the hell have U been living in. He NEVER attacked anyone but the DEMS. Every other R Candidate attacked him FIRST and he will come back HARD and all lost or are losing. You don't like TRUMP , fine don't vote for him? But there are some on here that think he will be the NEXT POTUS. Then TRUMP haters never say whom their candidate is for the most part and NEVER say what they will do differently or WHY? They just LIE like you are doing and hate it when someone calls you out. You been on here for 20 minutes and all you have done is attacked TRUMP for anything and say and lie about anything that will supports your case which thus far has been all BS. Say what you want but defend it just ONCE with facts and back them up. The TRUMP supporters do and I guess that's really PO you and the HATERS.

Longiron, no, we don't lie, and I don't appreciate your saying so.

Is that all you've got?  No other way to defend Trump but to denigrate those who question him? 

[aligncare]

No, I like that he's in the race and he's my second choice to Cruz.

I just don't like how he is clobbering a guy who has many of the same ideas about the establishment in DC.

Once you accept that winning is what drives Trump, his piling on Cruz makes sense. Trump's psychology compels him to win every thing in his path. He wants Iowa and he's taking no chances. He wants the advantage that momentum brings. It would give his campaign an air of inevitability. He wants a sweep.

[Sanguine]

Once you accept that winning is what drives Trump, his piling on Cruz makes sense. Trump's psychology compels him to win every thing in his path. He wants Iowa and he's taking no chances. He wants the advantage that momentum brings. It would give his campaign an air of inevitability. He wants a sweep.

And, you're ok with his motivations?

[HAPPY2BME]

No, I like that he's in the race and he's my second choice to Cruz.

I just don't like how he is clobbering a guy who has many of the same ideas about the establishment in DC.

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What would you do if you found out the Republican Establishment has so many (hidden) knives out for Ted Cruz he has a near ZERO chance of winning the nomination?

Ditto for Donald Trump, except he is not under the same (obligatory) constraints (a sitting senator, beholden to the Establishment) that Ted Cruz is and CAN win the nomination.

What would you do if you found out that IF Ted Cruz (whom I admire in many ways) DID by some incredible fluke of (escaping) the Establishment Knives and DID win the nomination is too far right (I am MUCH FURTHER RIGHT than Ted Cruz) to win the swing vote, thus losing to whatever socialist / communist the democrats cough up out of hell?

I do realize that the exact same argument (what if he can't beat Hillary/xxx) is being used by Ted Cruz supporters in the logic that Donald Trump is 'not in it to win it, and will DROP at the last second, but Ted Cruz will not (drop).

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[aligncare]

And, you're ok with his motivations?

He wants to win. Cruz is striving hard to win, too. Even authorizing some misleading attack ads against Trump.

It's expected in campaigns to go for the win. I don't have a problem with Trump campaigning. He's using free media to his advantage by criticizing Cruz every chance he gets. Cruz is doing the same when he talks to the media.

[Carling]

He wants to win. Cruz is striving hard to win, too. Even authorizing some misleading attack ads against Trump.

It's expected in campaigns to go for the win. I don't have a problem with Trump campaigning. He's using free media to his advantage by criticizing Cruz every chance he gets. Cruz is doing the same when he talks to the media.

As usual Aligncare, I can't argue with our reasoning and Cruz' problem right now is he can't get the media to report his counterattacks on Trump.

Thank you as always for you thoughts!